Report: Cowboys serious about drafting a quarterback at No. 4

Zimmy Lives

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well great - but if you're going the SMOKESCREEN route to throw people off as to what jones is doing, then why not bring in the top 3 qb's and make people wonder?

means nothing in the end and this SERIOUS ABOUT DRAFTING A QB is again, speculation on what the cowboys are doing and why - not a fact of their being serious about much of anything. not saying it's a smoke screen or not and agreed jerry talks to talk. how this equates to them being serious about a qb is a journalism bored and making crap up.

just tired of the making crap up called journalism these days.

In fairness, Jerry was spouting off his rhetoric before the visits. You notice he has not commented about his view on drafting a QB with the 4th overall pick lately.

Anyway, it would be foolish of Jones/the Cowboys to use their limited visits for the sake of putting up smokescreens. How foolish would that be?
 

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Sure, many of us would like nothing better than to make the decision at #4 for the FO but as always, we'll be obliged to wait until draft day to see what develops.

I'd relish seeing one of the "big three QBs" get the nod but hey, it's out of our hands. It wouldn't shock me if Jerry was blowing smoke about not taking one at #4.
 

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In fairness, Jerry was spouting off his rhetoric before the visits. You notice he has not commented about his view on drafting a QB with the 4th overall pick lately.

Anyway, it would be foolish of Jones/the Cowboys to use their limited visits for the sake of putting up smokescreens. How foolish would that be?

in all fairness - that really illustrates my point. i know i said i'm being *anal* but i'm tired of media / "journalists" prancing around giving me their opinion as facts. had he said "my guess is it's heating up for QB at valley ranch" no issues no worries. had he said "JONES LOOKS TO BE SERIOUS ABOUT A QB" fine. but to say jones is serious about drafting a qb is to say they talked to jones and they said they would.

reporting is about facts.

blogging and newsgroups is about speculation.

journalists have gotten very lazy and mixed the two. that and every buttnugget wannabe writer who can put up a good looking site is now passing themselves off as a "reporter" when they are far from it and people now look for others who feel as they do and pass off opinion as fact.

all i'm saying.

as for using visits as a smokescreen - why not? if we can pretend to know what jones is thinking, why stop at personal validation? how come others can't carry forward the "approved" mindset that this is ok?

oh - it goes against the belief people choose to have.
 

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I do think there is a bit of truth in the cowboys wanting a QB in round one. But, knowing Sir Jones and the Cowboys, they'll pick a JC 2nd string QB and not a Goff or Wentz or Lynch, just to prove how they can find a diamond in the rough. Won't work. Never has.
 

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I really like Goff and Wentz. I think both are going to be really good QB in the NFL. I would trade down however and pick up more picks and then get a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round. The facts are that the QB selected will not be an impact player for a few years. Of course there is always the chance that changes with a major injury to Romo but that can be said about every elite QB in the game, everyone is one snap away from retirement. As much as I like the top 2, I just can't see us or anyone using a #4 pick on a player that won't see the field for a few years, if everything goes right.
 

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I am not against us taking Elliott at #4 overall, if the grade is there and we think he is the right player for us to pick. What I am not sure of is why he is suggested to go as high as #4 overall, when he probably isn't the prospect that Adrian Peterson was who fell to a lower draft slot. If AP and Elliott were in the same draft, wouldn't most have AP ranked higher than EE?
 

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I still chuckle at the smokescreen idea.

Yeah, they are going to bring in, work out and interview the top six QB prospects so they can be clever.
 

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in all fairness - that really illustrates my point. i know i said i'm being *anal* but i'm tired of media / "journalists" prancing around giving me their opinion as facts. had he said "my guess is it's heating up for QB at valley ranch" no issues no worries. had he said "JONES LOOKS TO BE SERIOUS ABOUT A QB" fine. but to say jones is serious about drafting a qb is to say they talked to jones and they said they would.

reporting is about facts.

blogging and newsgroups is about speculation.

journalists have gotten very lazy and mixed the two. that and every buttnugget wannabe writer who can put up a good looking site is now passing themselves off as a "reporter" when they are far from it and people now look for others who feel as they do and pass off opinion as fact.

all i'm saying.

as for using visits as a smokescreen - why not? if we can pretend to know what jones is thinking, why stop at personal validation? how come others can't carry forward the "approved" mindset that this is ok?

oh - it goes against the belief people choose to have.

Concerning your opinion on journalistic integrity, I agee with you.

As for the visits, I would like to think Jerry and the Cowboys have more respect for the process and value the opportunity to bring in potential draft picks. Then again, we are talking about Jerry.

I personally think at least four of the guys Dallas brought in will wear the star in 2016.
 

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Of course the smart move is to draft a QB at pick 4.

If nothing else, if Romo finds the fountain of youth and will play at a high level for the next 5 years you can always trade the new QB.

They basically did the same thing when they drafted Aikman, they draft Walsh with what turned out to be the number one overall pick the following year. Then when Aikman turned out to be legit, they traded Walsh for a boat load of picks.

Same thing here, draft Wentz or Goff and if Romo develops magical healing powers like Deadpool, then we can trade Goff or Wentz for an arse load of picks.

I really see no downside to drafting a top QB.
 

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Its hard to read Jerry. Hes got a good poker face

Actually, he doesn't.

His idiocy serves as his poker face. I doubt he is respected as a shrewd trading partner given the number of times he has been taken to the cleaners over the years.

Now teams go, wait, was he drunk when he said that?
 

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The article is not a ground breaking news story by any means. Limiting my analysis to pure fact, the Cowboys have had a staggering number of quarterbacks visit Valley Ranch. The coaching staff coached many of them at the Senior Bowl. Because of those two things, I'm convinced the Cowboys have done their homework on Carson Wentz, and all the rest.

That's why I'm confident that if the Cowboys pick a QB at 4, they've done their homework.
That's also why, if they chose a non-quarterback, I'm confident that they have a good reason for passing on a first round quarterback this year.

One more fact: All my hours draft research in past years have gone to waste, the Cowboys never made a single draft decision from consulting with me. I'm enjoying my time with a fishing pole in my hand far more, it occasionally produces a fish at least!
 

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Of course we're going to be serious about drafting a QB. We scare the hell out of teams who really want one, cut a deal, move back, draft Elliott and snag Paxton Lynch with the extra pick we get.

The draft is so e
Of course we're going to be serious about drafting a QB. We scare the hell out of teams who really want one, cut a deal, move back, draft Elliott and snag Paxton Lynch with the extra pick we get.

The draft is so easy.

With all due respect, it sounds easy to you because you're operating off a scenario that is NOT realistic.
"Trade back and snag Lynch with the extra pick we get."

Um, Lynch isn't going to last until the 2nd round. Hell, I'll be shocked if he's available at #20. Its funny you mention that because before reading your post I read David Moore's latest article and he states that Lynch won't get past #15. There are too many teams in need of a QB and they all are not just going to let him slide by.

I wouldn't even be surprised if all 3 QB's were off the board by the 8th pick. Cleve definitely goes QB. Dallas, SF and Philly all could go QB with only 2 other options w/1st rd grades. I could see SF wanting the local kid Goff, and them and Dallas swapping 4 for 7 and a 3rd. Dallas could then select Lynch @7 providing Philly doesn't swap picks w/Baltimore and move ahead of Dallas to grab the last QB off the board with a 1st rd grade.

By the way Lurie has traveled with the scouts to watch all of the QB workouts. Also Denver is sitting at the end of the 1st with a black hole at QB.

In summation, there is no way. No earthly way Dallas gets Lynch outside of rd 1. Its fantasy to think otherwise.
 

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In summation, there is no way. No earthly way Dallas gets Lynch outside of rd 1. Its fantasy to think otherwise.

No question.

I do think if we trade down somehow, he is the guy.

It makes a ton of sense on a lot of fronts. He needs work. We think we have time.
 
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