Report: Cowboys WR Glenn done for season

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burmafrd;1628248 said:
keep beating that dead horse about his age. Did not play like that last year, did he? Over 1000 yds. Now how many Cowboy WRs have gotten over 1000 yds in the last 7 or 8 years? Pretty short list, right? Just as important was that he forced the D to worry about him. Is the D going to worry about Crayton and company? No, they are going to concentrate on TO. Any way you look at it this is a MINUS for us unless one of the youngsters suddenly starts scoring deep. A true DEEP THREAT really loosens up the secondary and the whole Defense- especially when you have 2 that can do it. Al Harper was the deep threat- Irvin was like TO is now. Harper made a big difference in how he forced the Defense to watch out for him. Does not matter that he did nothing anywhere else- it was what he did here that counted.
Sorry, but we still have a deep threat.... TO. We don't HAVE to have another one. If Crayton and Hurd can work the underneath, along with Witten and TO, it brings up the secondary, and TO can run by anybody at a moment's notice.

Besides, Crayton and Hurd may not be threats to run by you, but they can still be a deep threat. Crayton runs good routes. You don't have to be a burner to work the secondary downfield. The only thing Crayton may not be able to do is run a go route past the CB. That's a pure speed route. But cutting routes, double moves, etc., Crayton should be able to do.
 

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peplaw06;1628263 said:
Sorry, but we still have a deep threat.... TO. We don't HAVE to have another one. If Crayton and Hurd can work the underneath, along with Witten and TO, it brings up the secondary, and TO can run by anybody at a moment's notice.

Besides, Crayton and Hurd may not be threats to run by you, but they can still be a deep threat. Crayton runs good routes. You don't have to be a burner to work the secondary downfield. The only thing Crayton may not be able to do is run a go route past the CB. That's a pure speed route. But cutting routes, double moves, etc., Crayton should be able to do.


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Ah and alas SOMEONE else gets it.

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peplaw06;1628263 said:
Sorry, but we still have a deep threat.... TO.
That is true.

Last year he got behind D. Hall and every knows he is the best CB in the league right now. :rolleyes:
 

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big dog cowboy;1628287 said:
That is true.

Last year he got behind D. Hall and every knows he is the best CB in the league right now. :rolleyes:

I think using Owens as the "deep threat" takes away what I think he does best. If we can use him and his RAC ability to its fullest, that is where his strength is right now.

We just have to be careful how we use him. If Garrett mixes things up and doesn't rely on him to be the player responsible to stretch the defense, we will be fine with what we have.
 

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Alexander;1628295 said:
I think using Owens as the "deep threat" takes away what I think he does best. If we can use him and his RAC ability to its fullest, that is where his strength is right now.

We just have to be careful how we use him. If Garrett mixes things up and doesn't rely on him to be the player responsible to stretch the defense, we will be fine with what we have.
I agree he's best underneath, but he's still a deep threat when the secondary moves up.

It just sounds like some people want someone to run streaks and go patterns every play. That doesn't happen anyway, even with Glenn. If Glenn were just running streaks every play, he would never catch a ball.

Oh and I just re-watched the highlight package from last seasons NYG game in NY. You know the one where Witten caught a 42 yard pass to set up Grammy's game winner. Sounds like we have other guys who can work the deep part of the secondary. :eek:
 

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peplaw06;1628323 said:
I agree he's best underneath, but he's still a deep threat when the secondary moves up.

It just sounds like some people want someone to run streaks and go patterns every play. That doesn't happen anyway, even with Glenn. If Glenn were just running streaks every play, he would never catch a ball.

Oh and I just re-watched the highlight package from last seasons NYG game in NY. You know the one where Witten caught a 42 yard pass to set up Grammy's game winner. Sounds like we have other guys who can work the deep part of the secondary. :eek:


It's sounds to me like what some people want to do is just sign a track star to stretch the field! :confused:

T.O. can BURN if that's what the play is called for. He runs like a damn cheeta...

Again, remember, nobody has really seen this offense YET. I believe lots of folks have the past offense still in their mind...well, this offense is not going to be like anything we have seen in the past several years.
 

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peplaw06;1628323 said:
I agree he's best underneath, but he's still a deep threat when the secondary moves up.

It just sounds like some people want someone to run streaks and go patterns every play. That doesn't happen anyway, even with Glenn. If Glenn were just running streaks every play, he would never catch a ball.

Oh and I just re-watched the highlight package from last seasons NYG game in NY. You know the one where Witten caught a 42 yard pass to set up Grammy's game winner. Sounds like we have other guys who can work the deep part of the secondary. :eek:

I think it is a bit of an overstatement to assume that Glenn was our "only" deep threat. As long as we have enough speed on the field to make the defense at least respect the threat to not sit on every route, we will be fine. We just have to take our shots and keep them loose. We've got enough on the roster to get that task accomplished.

Unless you are running a vertical passing game like the Raiders did, there's no real point to having that kind of player to begin with.

What I find particularly strange was that people said we had no deep threat with a healthy Glenn and Keyshawn Johnson. Did Glenn suddenly become more of a deep threat with Owens? We will miss him as a reliable target, period.
 

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Isn't Crayton pretty fast??? I know that he has very good hands and finds the endzone... I think that we will be ok...
 

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Dallas22;1628348 said:
Isn't Crayton pretty fast??? I know that he has very good hands and finds the endzone... I think that we will be ok...

Crayton is not really known as a "fast" player, but he is known for always finding a way get open and he can catch a 22 bullet with his teeth!

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Basically Patrick Crayton can expect a long term deal after this news. Hurd has the size and hands to come in and be the second reciever; Honestly I think Crayton is best at the slot position.

TO is pretty much our fastest reciever now. I don't know how much we are going to be able to stretch the field without TG. Hopefully Hurd or Crayton can make the best of their one one one opportunities.
 

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Dallas;1626412 said:
And let's not forget the All American WR from Oklahoma - Malcolm Kelly

I would even say the best hands of the whole crew.

I would love to have Malcolm Kelly. He had a good game today.
 

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peplaw06;1628263 said:
Sorry, but we still have a deep threat.... TO. We don't HAVE to have another one. If Crayton and Hurd can work the underneath, along with Witten and TO, it brings up the secondary, and TO can run by anybody at a moment's notice.

Besides, Crayton and Hurd may not be threats to run by you, but they can still be a deep threat. Crayton runs good routes. You don't have to be a burner to work the secondary downfield. The only thing Crayton may not be able to do is run a go route past the CB. That's a pure speed route. But cutting routes, double moves, etc., Crayton should be able to do.

I must say

excellent post :hammer:
 

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TheCount;1626424 said:
There goes the speed at our reciever position.

I love how some of you guys are talking about the draft when we haven't even played our first game yet, with that kind of thinking, we'll end up with the #1 and #2 overall picks in next years draft.

As far as I'm concerned, Crayton isn't exactly the guy you want starting 16 games, plus what happens if he gets hurt? Then we've got T.O. and Hurd and Miles Austin as our third? What happens if T.O. gets hurt! We'd have Crayton and Hurd as our starters?

It's because of crap like this that people critisize Jones, we've got a very real need for WR last year in the draft, and he drafts a QB project instead. Wonderful.

So now we don't have Ellis, Glenn and Newman is hurting. I don't know about you guys, but I'm very worried.



Dude! what happens if any teams two out of three receivers get hurt. No one can account for that kind of scenario. THe other receivers have to step up the best they can. Sheesh!
 

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Nors;1628670 said:
No Glenn = more double coverage on TO


True...however, if you cannot find him, how are you going to double him...

;) This is not the same offense that we have been seeing...and you know that as well as anyone I would think!
 

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chargrove;1626509 said:
Why would any team lay all their cards on the table for all to see during the season? You have to play it. If it involves misinformation, so be it.

Actually it's called full disclosure, which is required by nfl rules. A lot of teams try to ***** this a little bit but outright lying can lead to team penalties I believe.:cool:
 

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ratpower;1628928 said:
Can anyone say...Keyshawn? Give him a one year deal...

:rolleyes:

Yeah, let's sign Vinny Testaverde too. It'll be just like 2004!
 

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ratpower;1628928 said:
Can anyone say...Keyshawn? Give him a one year deal...

That would be a thought if possession receiving was needed - but Terry' replacement needs to ne someone to set the d's back with a speed threat

key did 'suggest' last night on his radio show that even with randy moss in ne, Belichick showed interest in signing him.

but he also admitted, finally, himself, (and it was funny!) that he's lost speed.

so he must be slow as molasses this year.:)
 

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McCordsville Cowboy;1626362 said:
The TG era is over in Dallas...

Hopefully we can trade for Andre Johnson....
not tryin to offend u but how the hell do u want us to get Johnson??? first of all the Texans would NEVER trade him to us and second well there isnt a need for second cause the Texans would NEVER trade him to us...
 
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