Report: Cowboys WR Glenn done for season

[skinsscalper]

Something to keep in mind: Crayton doesn't HAVE to be Terry Glenn. He just has to be Patrick Crayton. Another thing to stew over: Guess who's receiving numbers just went through the roof? Jason Whitten. Crayton will get his catches as will TO, but Fasano and Witten just became a very dangerous combo.

I'd be willing to bet that Witten has more catches than the #2 and #3 WRs combined in this game. I might be wrong, but I can imagine a scenario where Crayton stretches the field (even as a decoy) and Witten and/or Fasano torches the Giants in the intermediate route game. There's a reason Gates and Gonzalez are the dominant pass catching TEs in the game. Hint: they have all-stars at the WR position (sarcasm). If I remember correctly, these teams they play on are pretty prolific offensively. Yes, I know they are packing LT and Johnson. Cool. I get it. I'm not under the impression, however, that JJ and MBIII are a couple of slouches, either. Throw into the mix that neither of these teams have a WR (of TOs caliber) and I feel safe in saying that we "stand a chance".

SS

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I think it's true...

I think Dallas is maybe trying to make a deal and if a team knows TG is gone for the season it costs more to do business...

depends on who we're asking for, if we're asking for a mid-level guy or higher, then the warning signs are going to be blaring

the season-ending "report" isn't helping things

 

[thewivil]

What scares me is that now we don't have the speed in Glenn, teams will be double teaming T.O. So if we don't pick up any additional receivers that means we're counting on Crayton a lot.

Can he step up and be a legit #2 receiver? I'm not too sure.

Plus, will any of our backups be adequate #3 receivers?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

guys, about Crayton, Wade in his PC today said that every receiver on the roster could play the X and Y position, but not many could play in the slot

I think Crayton spends alot of time in the slot

 

[Avery]

Those that want McFadden next year might have a hard pill to swallow as we are going to have to invest some high first day picks in a CB and WR very soon.

 

[Parche]

Those that want McFadden next year might have a hard pill to swallow as we are going to have to invest some high first day picks in a CB and WR very soon.

And I feel we are in need of those positions more than we need a Rb

 

[big dog cowboy]

Those that want McFadden next year might have a hard pill to swallow as we are going to have to invest some high first day picks in a CB and WR very soon.

I mentioned a couple of weeks ago we might give Julius a new deal and go WR & CB in the first round. Personally I'd go CB with the Cle pick and WR with our pick. I still think we could win a super bowl with JJ and MBIII.

 

[Idgit]

Those that want McFadden next year might have a hard pill to swallow as we are going to have to invest some high first day picks in a CB and WR very soon.

Meh. There are solid speed WRs available every FA period. Randy Moss, D Stallworth, K Curtis this year. Javon Walker, etc. the year before. If you think McFadden is a franchise guy, you take him and fill your other holes in free agency or with your other first and second round picks.

 

[Big D]

We will be just fine because Crayton and Hurd are ready. Romo seems to have more of a rapport with them anyway as Glenn was Bledsoe's boy, especially in crunch time.

If worst comes to worst and the wr's can't get open, we can just send all them deep and hit the rb's out of the backfield like everyone else. Teams cannot cover everyone.

How the defense will perform is a bigger issue than who will replace Glenn.

 

[mmohican29]

Look this really stinks.... but I just have a hunch that we are gonna be JUST FINE.

Sam Hurd is a player with some tremendous upside. Patrick Crayton is a rock solid receiver. Fasano is blossoming. Whitten and TO are absolute studs. Barber can catch the ball, Jones can too.

I think we lose some big play ability yes, but we have just become a team that eats up first down yardage IMO. Hurd has terrific hands and is being schooled by the best WR on earth practically. We will move the football, fear not.

I think this might even help Tony out some... he doesn't have to "share" the football between two stud receivers. He can play his game which is to spread the ball out and look for T.O. as option 1A. Anyone agree with me?

It's an initial terrific blow, but.... We MIGHT have just gotten better. Time will tell. Either way, it's the hand we're dealt I think we are gonna an outstanding offense with or without TG. Now if we lose T.O. ... we gots an issue, but even then I don't think we're dead in the water.

 

[Tusan_Homichi]

It's an initial terrific blow, but.... We MIGHT have just gotten better. Time will tell. Either way, it's the hand we're dealt I think we are gonna an outstanding offense with or without TG. Now if we lose T.O. ... we gots an issue, but even then I don't think we're dead in the water.

I agree that this could end up being a blessing. Throw our young wide receivers out there and see if they sink or swim. If they swim? Awesome. If they don't and our season goes in the toilet? Well, we probably weren't as good as we thought anyway. Most teams don't have two number 1 wideouts.

Now, I'm not as optimistic as you are if we lose TO. Ugh.

 

[eduncan22]

I agree that this could end up being a blessing. Throw our young wide receivers out there and see if they sink or swim. If they swim? Awesome. If they don't and our season goes in the toilet? Well, we probably weren't as good as we thought anyway. Most teams don't have two number 1 wideouts.

Now, I'm not as optimistic as you are if we lose TO. Ugh.

I dont know if you realize just how good Terry Glenn is.

 

[dallasfan]

I know I'll probably get blasted for this, but if Glenn is out for the season, and not just a few weeks, how bout ....................................................... Antonio Bryant. I know he has 2 games left for his suspension, but I'd be interested in giving him a 1 year deal.

 

[5mics]

The TG era is over in Dallas...

Hopefully we can trade for Andre Johnson....

What about Joey Galloway? Is he available?

 

[peplaw06]

Those that want McFadden next year might have a hard pill to swallow as we are going to have to invest some high first day picks in a CB and WR very soon.

While I agree that we probably need to spend some first day picks on a WR... when was the last time we did that? I'm having a hard time thinking of anyone since Irvin.

IMO we could get a 1-2 year fix in FA, draft DMac and a CB in round 1, a WR in round 2-3, and develop that guy to take a major role. Odds are a WR won't be ready to step in on day one anyway. Next to QB, WR is probably the hardest position to make an impact at for a rookie.

 

[burmafrd]

Have to laugh at those whistling past the graveyard saying that we might actually get better. Sorry guys but none of the other WRs have shown the ability to go deep, and do the other things that Glenn could. MAYBE a combination of them can do it- but NONE of them - could do it one on one.
We are NOT as good without Glenn- FACT. Now how much of a drop off- that is to be seen. BUT calling this ANYTHING but a major hit is just plain STUPID.
About the only good thing I can see is that we will find out about our young WRs this year- which will be a valuable thing come FA and the draft; but its NOT LIKELY to HELP us get to the playoffs as having a healthy GLenn would.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

i posted this about two hours ago in another thread.....

Moseley wrote that at 5 am this morning, since then we have heard from jerry and wade and they dont know yet.

laufenberg and mickey spagnola have both said the cowboys got new info last night and they dont know anything yet.

I dont believe ol jerry sunshine when he talks but right now we all have to wait and see.

Agreed. I think it's likely that Glenn is done for the season, but it's still too early to tell. Last year Glenn had a problem with his knee and they originally reported that he may be gone for the rest of the season, then it was at least 2 games and in reality he missed a little over a game of action. The Dallas medical staff is usually wrong on injuries and usually understate them, but they've also been wrong on overstating injuries as well.

In essence, the Dallas medical staff brings the parade of suck.




YAKUZA

 

[skinsscalper]

Have to laugh at those whistling past the graveyard saying that we might actually get better. Sorry guys but none of the other WRs have shown the ability to go deep, and do the other things that Glenn could. MAYBE a combination of them can do it- but NONE of them - could do it one on one.
We are NOT as good without Glenn- FACT. Now how much of a drop off- that is to be seen. BUT calling this ANYTHING but a major hit is just plain STUPID.
About the only good thing I can see is that we will find out about our young WRs this year- which will be a valuable thing come FA and the draft; but its NOT LIKELY to HELP us get to the playoffs as having a healthy GLenn would.

Not sure that I see anyone saying that we'll be better without Glenn than with (I may have missed a post or two that may have hinted at such. If so, my bad). The fact is that our season isn't in the toilet, without Glenn, no matter how you slice it. Glenn's speed and experience was a luxury, for sure. But certainly not a necessity to be successful. Most people, other than a Bears fan or fantasy football guru, probably couldn't name the starting WRs for the Bears last year. Yet they managed a Super Bowl appearance. Care to name the starting WRs for ANY of the Patriots Super Bowl teams without looking them up? In fact, sans the Colts of last year, the past few Super Bowl participants (both losers and winners) had hardly anyone of super star caliber manning EITHER WR spot (some may disagree with that if your a Hines Ward fan). It's just not a necessity to have an All-Star at the position to be successful (we had TWO, now one of them is down).

Michael Irvin did just fine with the likes of Alvin Harper (Harper never even sniffed his success as a Cowboy after leaving Dallas) and Kevin Williams as his #2s through 3 Super Bowl victories. T.O. is capable of replicating that success (this may be blasphemous, to some, but T.O. has a game breaking ability that Irvin never had. Sure you can find games where Irvin dominated, but Owens has done it for the majority of his career without the luxury of the Cowboys dominant O-line or a superstar RB).

The sky is falling thing is already getting old. Marques Colston would have never become Marques Colston last year with a Terry Glenn on the Saints roster. Ditto for Jericho Cotchery. Crayton is an UFA this season. It's an opportunity to see if he's worth re-signing next year. I'd rather re-sign an effective Crayton (whom we've invested 4 years in) than bring in an unknown vet FA (assuming, of course Crayton does well). It would suck to watch Crayton leave via FA and watch him light it up with another team. This way, at least, we KNOW what we've got in the kid and whether or not he's worth a long term commitment. Ditto for Hurd and Austin. Is it a little rosy to ASSUME that these guys are going to turn into great players? Of course. Not many people are anointing then the next great thing either (though there are a few). But it's not any more absurd than claiming that the season is over and we no longer have the ability to be effective on offense because our oft-injured 33 year old WR may be done for the season.

SS

 

[burmafrd]

keep beating that dead horse about his age. Did not play like that last year, did he? Over 1000 yds. Now how many Cowboy WRs have gotten over 1000 yds in the last 7 or 8 years? Pretty short list, right? Just as important was that he forced the D to worry about him. Is the D going to worry about Crayton and company? No, they are going to concentrate on TO. Any way you look at it this is a MINUS for us unless one of the youngsters suddenly starts scoring deep. A true DEEP THREAT really loosens up the secondary and the whole Defense- especially when you have 2 that can do it. Al Harper was the deep threat- Irvin was like TO is now. Harper made a big difference in how he forced the Defense to watch out for him. Does not matter that he did nothing anywhere else- it was what he did here that counted.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Not sure that I see anyone saying that we'll be better without Glenn than with (I may have missed a post or two that may have hinted at such. If so, my bad). The fact is that our season isn't in the toilet, without Glenn, no matter how you slice it. Glenn's speed and experience was a luxury, for sure. But certainly not a necessity to be successful. Most people, other than a Bears fan or fantasy football guru, probably couldn't name the starting WRs for the Bears last year. Yet they managed a Super Bowl appearance. Care to name the starting WRs for ANY of the Patriots Super Bowl teams without looking them up? In fact, sans the Colts of last year, the past few Super Bowl participants (both losers and winners) had hardly anyone of super star caliber manning EITHER WR spot (some may disagree with that if your a Hines Ward fan). It's just not a necessity to have an All-Star at the position to be successful (we had TWO, now one of them is down).

Michael Irvin did just fine with the likes of Alvin Harper (Harper never even sniffed his success as a Cowboy after leaving Dallas) and Kevin Williams as his #2s through 3 Super Bowl victories. T.O. is capable of replicating that success (this may be blasphemous, to some, but T.O. has a game breaking ability that Irvin never had. Sure you can find games where Irvin dominated, but Owens has done it for the majority of his career without the luxury of the Cowboys dominant O-line or a superstar RB).

The sky is falling thing is already getting old. Marques Colston would have never become Marques Colston last year with a Terry Glenn on the Saints roster. Ditto for Jericho Cotchery. Crayton is an UFA this season. It's an opportunity to see if he's worth re-signing next year. I'd rather re-sign an effective Crayton (whom we've invested 4 years in) than bring in an unknown vet FA (assuming, of course Crayton does well). It would suck to watch Crayton leave via FA and watch him light it up with another team. This way, at least, we KNOW what we've got in the kid and whether or not he's worth a long term commitment. Ditto for Hurd and Austin. Is it a little rosy to ASSUME that these guys are going to turn into great players? Of course. Not many people are anointing then the next great thing either (though there are a few). But it's not any more absurd than claiming that the season is over and we no longer have the ability to be effective on offense because our oft-injured 33 year old WR may be done for the season.

SS

Great post.

The ship does not sink when one of the first mates goes overboard.