Report: Eagles trade draft pick and LB Simoneau for WR Donte Stallworth

[AdamJT13]

Meaningless, what is his dropped pass % with respect to other NFL receivers?

Horrible, of course.

Out of the 79 wide receivers with at least 30 catches last season, Stallworth ranked 75th in dropped pass percentage. Right behind Stallworth at 76th was Reggie Brown. (The only guys worse were Eddie Kennison, Ernest Wilford and Dante Hall. So there was only one other starting receiver with a higher drop percentage -- Kennison -- than the two guys who'll start for the Eagles this season.)

If you base it on drops per catch, then Stallworth's ranking goes all the way up to 73rd! And Reggie Brown again finished right behind him, in 74th.

 

[Smashmouth24]

Horrible, of course.

Out of the 79 wide receivers with at least 30 catches last season, Stallworth ranked 75th in dropped pass percentage. Right behind Stallworth at 76th was Reggie Brown. (The only guys worse were Eddie Kennison, Ernest Wilford and Dante Hall. So there was only one other starting receiver with a higher drop percentage -- Kennison -- than the two guys who'll start for the Eagles this season.)

If you base it on drops per catch, then Stallworth's ranking goes all the way up to 73rd! And Reggie Brown again finished right behind him, in 74th.

So these are (balls 'dropped') : ('catchable' balls)? or something less subjective?

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

I believe In the biblical expression ...Judge Ye Not; Lest Ye Be Judged ...
but can you spell the word hypocrites!?

Hypocracy Post #1:

Originally Posted by ...(I'm Not trying to embarrass anyone)
If we were to get Donte Stallworth, Mike Williams, or Charles Rogers, I'd have a little more faith in our ability to work on offense. Williams is young and inexperienced so I don't know how helpful he would actually be. But I seriously think Stallworth would be the perfect third guy.

Owens - Glenn - Stallworth - Crayton - Hurd

Thats pretty lights out to me. It would also help develop Henson and Romo. Actually playing with some talent.

Stallworth is only 25/26, so he could easily enter the next era as the #1 receiver. And we could still draft someone along the lines. But wouldnt be forced to do it next year.

I'd probably say a linebacker and a 3rd or 4th round draft pick for Stallworth would be worth it. Depending on the linebacker. Maybe like Singleton and a 4th.

Hypocracy Post #2:
Originally Posted by ......(I'm Not trying to embarrass anyone)

i hope we get charles rogers or donte stallworth, both got talent ...

Hypocracy Post #3/4:

Originally Posted by ......(I'm Not trying to embarrass anyone)
I agree about Stallworth, but Rogers reportedly has a drug habit. Parcells has been known to avoid underachievers with drug issues.


Same here. I would be elated if we got Stallworth. He has serious speed and would give us someone other than Glenn that can stretch the field.

That's enough! All of a sudden, because the same talented receiver (...but I thought the WR position was the least of the Cowboys' worries!) goes to an opponent team, he becomes non-talented, or a someone who always drops the ball, ... It wasn't too long ago when everyone was saying that The Eagles had the worst WR corp in the NFL, now that we have a credible WR also, you want to pelt him and denegrade his talents. What if he would have been trade to the Commanders or the Giants; or perhaps Dallas ...that would have been a different story then?!


For those of you who don't get the point, look in the mirror and shout the word ...Hypocrite.

I haven't seen an Eagle fan yet, to post anything that Looks remotely close to saying that Donte Stallworth is the "answer" to the Eagles 6-10 record in 2005.

The plain and simple fact is that Donte Stallworth is an upgrade for the Eagles, with a deep threat presence ... and there's nothing you can say to change that.
Stallwirth has 4.2 speed in the 40, a legitimate speed receiver in the prime of his career who posted big-time numbers for a wobbly Saints offense last season. And suddenly, just like that, the Eagles have a wide receiving corps that is deep and talented and varied and this offense has as many weapons as any in the NFC heading into the 2006 season!

 

[Charles]

I believe In the biblical expression ...Judge Ye Not; Lest Ye Be Judged ...
but can you spell the word hypocrites!?

Hypocracy Post #1:



Hypocracy Post #2:
Originally Posted by ......(I'm Not trying to embarrass anyone)


Hypocracy Post #3/4:


That's enough! All of a sudden, because the same talented receiver (...but I thought the WR position was the least of the Cowboys' worries!) goes to an opponent team, he becomes non-talented, or a someone who always drops the ball, ... It wasn't too long ago when everyone was saying that The Eagles had the worst WR corp in the NFL, now that we have a credible WR also, you want to pelt him and denegrade his talents. What if he would have been trade to the Commanders or the Giants; or perhaps Dallas ...that would have been a different story then?!


For those of you who don't get the point, look in the mirror and shout the word ...Hypocrite.

I haven't seen an Eagle fan yet, to post anything that Looks remotely close to saying that Donte Stallworth is the "answer" to the Eagles 6-10 record in 2005.

The plain and simple fact is that Donte Stallworth is an upgrade for the Eagles, with a deep threat presence ... and there's nothing you can say to change that.

Great Post Phoenix-Talon.

A healthy Donte Stallworth significantly upgrades your Receiving core.

 

[dbair1967]

I believe In the biblical expression ...Judge Ye Not; Lest Ye Be Judged ...
but can you spell the word hypocrites!?

Hypocracy Post #1:



Hypocracy Post #2:
Originally Posted by ......(I'm Not trying to embarrass anyone)


Hypocracy Post #3/4:

you didnt see me clamoring for Rogers or Mike Williams...I'm not a huge Stallworth fan and he does drop alot of passes, but at least he has some production with him and his numbers have improved each of the last 3 seasons (from 25, to 58 to 70 receptions, tds from 3-5-7)

Stallworth was a nice add for a team that really had nothing at WR, and he is eons better than those mammoth busts/wastes of time Rogers and M Williams

David

 

[Alexander]

Horrible, of course.

Out of the 79 wide receivers with at least 30 catches last season, Stallworth ranked 75th in dropped pass percentage. Right behind Stallworth at 76th was Reggie Brown. (The only guys worse were Eddie Kennison, Ernest Wilford and Dante Hall. So there was only one other starting receiver with a higher drop percentage -- Kennison -- than the two guys who'll start for the Eagles this season.)

If you base it on drops per catch, then Stallworth's ranking goes all the way up to 73rd! And Reggie Brown again finished right behind him, in 74th.

Andy Reid disagrees.

"We're bringing in an experienced receiver that's coming off a great year with the New Orleans Saints, and he'll fit nicely into our receiving corps," Reid said in a statement. "He's got tremendous speed and quickness, and he catches the ball very well. He's good with the yards after the catch."

 

[burmafrd]

PT, do you actually believe the stuff you post? Stallworth drops a lot. He is NOT a 4.2 40 guy. He is better then what you had but at best he is a #2 guy. You do not have a #1 guy and that is a fact.

 

[joseephuss]

PT, do you actually believe the stuff you post? Stallworth drops a lot. He is NOT a 4.2 40 guy. He is better then what you had but at best he is a #2 guy. You do not have a #1 guy and that is a fact.

I thought he was a 4.2 guy. Not exactly a 4.2 in the 40, but a very fast 40 time. One of the fastest in that 2002 draft. He is a great pick up for the Eagles. It is an offense that has worked well without a top receiver in the past. I don't think he is a great all around receiver, but any time a team upgrades, that is a good thing for them and more of a challenge for Dallas. I think the Cowboys defense can stand up to the challenge.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

PT, do you actually believe the stuff you post? Stallworth drops a lot. He is NOT a 4.2 40 guy.

I'll repeat the Information that is documented. Donte Stallworth really can do the 40 in ...4.2! Just because you say he doesn't, won't change anything. I don't understand why you"re trying to hang your hat on something that's untrue.

He is better then what you had but at best he is a #2 guy. You do not have a #1 guy and that is a fact.

I'll need more patience for you ...listen, the "fact" is that You do not know what you are talking about. This numbering system of yours is whack. A number "one" on any given team, could be a Potential number #2 on another team. That simply means that Your little numbering sytem Is relative to the team and the player.

I'd better say that another way for you ...my Number one is not necessarily your number one ...they both have different objectives, plaing from different offensive strategies ...e.g., the WCO may require a different type of WR routes than what's required from your offensive X's and O's!

Forget it ...

 

[Duane]

Andy Reid disagrees.

"We're bringing in an experienced receiver that's coming off a great year with the New Orleans Saints, and he'll fit nicely into our receiving corps," Reid said in a statement. "He's got tremendous speed and quickness, and he catches the ball very well. He's good with the yards after the catch."

Reid refuses to listen to the facts about his own team, shocker.

 

[burmafrd]

A #1 WR is a guy like TO, Harrison, Moss, etc. Stallworth is not that. Not even close. And that 4.2 thing- back it up with a source - because that is crap. You still dodged the facts that he was near the top of the league in DROPS. PT, you are the one spouting drivel.

 

[Alexander]

Reid refuses to listen to the facts about his own team, shocker.

Are you saying he is arrogant and has too much faith in an offensive system that has not been successful since Bill Walsh?

I agree.

Getting Stallworth was a good move in that it kept them from having to depend on Pinkston or start Hank Baskett, but this isn't a move that will automatically give the Eagles an edge. They already missed that boat when they did not make a serious play for Javon Walker.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

Reid refuses to listen to the facts about his own team, shocker.

You guys are collectively uncovering some very heavy stuff.

 

[Duane]

You guys are collectively uncovering some very heavy stuff.

And you're refusing to see the facts that Stallworth can't catch. Adam has already shown that Donte ranks in the bottom 5% of players with at least 30 catches.

Add that to the personal observations of not only some posters but my die hard Saint fan co-workers and it's pretty clear that you didn't get a superstar WR in this trade. At most the Eagles got a guy who's average to above average - which might make him the best receiver on the team.

 

[Stash]

The Eagles made a nice move and upgraded their pathetic receiving corps - that's it!

The supposed "hypocrites" that "Mr Nice Guy" is suddenly trying to call out were in fact speaking of Stallworth in terms of a #3 receiver, not a starter.

"Mr Nice Guy" conveniently left that part out of his quotes.

Stallworth is a decent deep threat in the Ashley Lelie role. He hasn't come close to living up to his 1st round draft status. And the fact that the Saints dumped him for next to nothing speaks volums as to what Payton thought of him.

The fact is that given the Payton/Parcells connection, I'm sure the Cowboys were well aware that he was on the market and chose not to pursue him.

He's an upgrade over a pathetic group but hardly enough to make the Eagles a threat for the division.

 

[jay cee]

I believe In the biblical expression ...Judge Ye Not; Lest Ye Be Judged ...
but can you spell the word hypocrites!?

Hypocracy Post #1:



Hypocracy Post #2:
Originally Posted by ......(I'm Not trying to embarrass anyone)


Hypocracy Post #3/4:


That's enough! All of a sudden, because the same talented receiver (...but I thought the WR position was the least of the Cowboys' worries!) goes to an opponent team, he becomes non-talented, or a someone who always drops the ball, ... It wasn't too long ago when everyone was saying that The Eagles had the worst WR corp in the NFL, now that we have a credible WR also, you want to pelt him and denegrade his talents. What if he would have been trade to the Commanders or the Giants; or perhaps Dallas ...that would have been a different story then?!


For those of you who don't get the point, look in the mirror and shout the word ...Hypocrite.

I haven't seen an Eagle fan yet, to post anything that Looks remotely close to saying that Donte Stallworth is the "answer" to the Eagles 6-10 record in 2005.

The plain and simple fact is that Donte Stallworth is an upgrade for the Eagles, with a deep threat presence ... and there's nothing you can say to change that.
Stallwirth has 4.2 speed in the 40, a legitimate speed receiver in the prime of his career who posted big-time numbers for a wobbly Saints offense last season. And suddenly, just like that, the Eagles have a wide receiving corps that is deep and talented and varied and this offense has as many weapons as any in the NFC heading into the 2006 season!

Now that's just nasty.

go on and name names, man.:laugh2:

 

[Charles]

Now that's just nasty.

go on and name names, man.:laugh2:

Yep. Please Phoenix-Talon. expose the hypocrites. I don't care if they are fellow Cowboy fans

Throw in a couple of links to verification.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

... hardly enough to make the Eagles a threat for the division.

I've got news for you Shroo ...the Eagles already are a threat to the Division!

 

[Stash]

I've got news for you Shroo ...the Eagles already are a threat to the Division!

I've got news for you. Your team is nothing. They scare nobody, least of all me.

The only chance they have at 3rd place is if another team in the division suffers injuries.

Window's closed.

Worry about not losing Week 1 in Houston!

:trophy:

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

And you're refusing to see the facts that Stallworth can't catch. Adam has already shown that Donte ranks in the bottom 5% of players with at least 30 catches.

Add that to the personal observations of not only some posters but my die hard Saint fan co-workers and it's pretty clear that you didn't get a superstar WR in this trade. At most the Eagles got a guy who's average to above average - which might make him the best receiver on the team.

...Stallworth can't catch

...Donte ranks in the bottom 5% of players with at least 30 catches

...personal observations ...some posters...my die hard Saint fan co-workers (or hear-sey)

...Eagles got a guy who's average to above average

Stop it, you're beating me down with hearsay...

The hearsay rule
from the evidence article
Hearsay is testimony based on what a witness has heard others say. The hearsay rule limiting this type of testimony is perhaps the most characteristic feature of evidence. ...

Is that all you've got!