Report: Jenkins won't be at OTA's & wants trade

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WoodysGirl;4567950 said:
What do voluntary mean?


Actually, I don't think I called anyone meanies. But if you feel like one, then that's on you. Just said, this is a pretty typical reaction from fans.

Actually, it's on you. You're the one that made the comment. And it's typical of this forum lately and why several folks have left. Criticize anyone being critical for being critical.

This is business and like Dooms, I feel if Mike isn't traded, then he needs to show up for training camp.

I'm pretty consistent in how I feel about OTAs. I'm happy if they attend, but I'm not going to bash the player if he doesn't.

Not if he doesn't but why he doesn't.

He's stated why he's not attending and it's not because of the injury. It's a tantrum.

Mike Jenkins isn't getting wronged here. If he was that good, the team wouldn't have made the move they did. This is how the 'business' works. Either you do the job or the team gets someone else who will.

But as I have also stated, I'm perfectly content to let Jenkins sit at home and pout.

It won't help his case either way.
 

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Hopefully this is just an overreaction from his feelings getting hurt. He is still young and played a good season last year.

Personally, I have always liked Jenkins, he played through injuries for the most part. I do not blame him for wanting out either, but he did indeed play his hand too early.

The cowboys will need him this season, and I hope he cools down and realizes what needs to be done, for both the cowboys and his future.

But, I do not want him rubbing off on the new players, especially Carr and Claiborne. If he continues to defy, tweet, whatever to make waves, then he needs to be dealt with swiftly.

Even though OTA's are not mandatory, there is probably a good chance they are behind closed doors IMO, or at the very least insinuated to some degree.
 

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I haven't thought much of Jenkins since he squated to pee instead of making the tackle a couple years ago.

I would like to have seen Jenkins stay and compete for a starting job, but it looks like he's taking the path of least resistance... once again.
 

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stasheroo;4567975 said:
Mike Jenkins isn't getting wronged here. If he was that good, the team wouldn't have made the move they did. This is how the 'business' works. Either you do the job or the team gets someone else who will.

Stash, you're a smart guy but let's not act like the Cowboys' front office is the definitive word on personnel around the league.

The fact that the Cowboys went out and lavishly invested on two new cornerbacks doesn't mean anything about Jenkins as a player.
 

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a_minimalist;4567974 said:
I don't believe everything that's tweeted. As a matter of fact, I don't even look at twitter or have a twitter account. Nice try though?

You never heard of "news" being recycled then LOL.
 

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Hostile;4567870 said:
Jenkins best move is to play this year as hard as he can and shoot for Carr and Finnegan money next off season. I personally don't care if we trade him for Draft picks or get a Compensatory Pick for him. I like the kid but I do not appreciate emulating the French and waving the white flag.

:lmao:

I guess he did play last year better with all the injuries (which was a long way from business decision) but I think he probably seen the writing on wall , with long deal for Carr and now Claiborne.

Right attiude is being here and rehab and play your heart out to force the managment hand , but is rarely seen these days.
 

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stasheroo;4567975 said:
Actually, it's on you. You're the one that made the comment. And it's typical of this forum lately and why several folks have left. Criticize anyone being critical for being critical.
Please. Not another moratorium on the Zone. I wasn't criticizing you or anyone, personally. However, I did point that the reaction in this thread is pretty typical whenever situations like this occur.

Not if he doesn't but why he doesn't.

He's stated why he's not attending and it's not because of the injury. It's a tantrum.

Mike Jenkins isn't getting wronged here. If he was that good, the team wouldn't have made the move they did. This is how the 'business' works. Either you do the job or the team gets someone else who will.

But as I have also stated, I'm perfectly content to let Jenkins sit at home and pout.

It won't help his case either way.
Again, I'm not concerned with why he's choosing not to be in Dallas for OTAs. He wouldn't be able to get on the field anyway.

I'll only be concerned come training camp time.
 

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nalam;4567983 said:
:lmao:

I guess he did play last year better with all the injuries (which was a long way from business decision) but I think he probably seen the writing on wall , with long deal for Carr and now Claiborne.

Right attiude is being here and rehab and play your heart out to force the managment hand , but is rarely seen these days.
He needs to be given some credit IMO. Last year with a torn up shoulder he was taken out of a game 3 times and kept coming back and was out best CB in that game with a bum wing.

To me, that is heart. I like Jenkins a lot. But I am a team guy. If he doesn't want to be here it will be reflected in his play. So what greed can I satisfy?

I think it is fair to think greed when they do.
 

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Risen Star;4567969 said:
I don't see how asking for a trade right now is pouting. He's just playing the hand he's been dealt. The writing's on the wall in Dallas. If he wants to leave he better act now.

This is really a non issue to me. It's an OTA in May. He'll be in camp and play in the games if he's still on the roster this year. He'll play well too. Better than Carr, in fact. As long as health isn't an issue.

I don't get your rebound comment. Jenkins played well last year, all things considered.
And by "acting now" his trade value is????
 

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a_minimalist;4567937 said:
The problem with that is, why even play him? It's a waste of valuable time for a youngster who wants to be a Cowboy and needs experience. He should by no means play this year or be traded. Let him sit on the couch and watch for a year. He hurts the team no matter what he does.
Do you really want to go with Mario Butler and Isaac Madison as your 4th and 5th CBs? They still have a need for Mike Jenkins because they have no idea if any of those bottom of the depth chart guys can play.
 

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Jenky;4567981 said:
You never heard of "news" being recycled then LOL.

I don't even know what you're saying anymore. You've moved to some other topic and I have no desire to follow.
 

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WoodysGirl;4567989 said:
Please. Not another moratorium on the Zone. I wasn't criticizing you or anyone, personally. However, I did point that the reaction in this thread is pretty typical whenever situations like this occur.

Again, I'm not concerned with why he's choosing not to be in Dallas for OTAs. He wouldn't be able to get on the field anyway.

I'll only be concerned come training camp time.

Agreed with everything you said completely.
 

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a_minimalist;4567937 said:
The problem with that is, why even play him? It's a waste of valuable time for a youngster who wants to be a Cowboy and needs experience. He should by no means play this year or be traded. Let him sit on the couch and watch for a year. He hurts the team no matter what he does.
He's too good of a player to just sit him. And early on I guarantee Claiborne will not be completely ready. And if Claiborne and/or Carr go down, we are back to square one.

Like I said earlier, if we could get at least decent value for him, I'd take it. But otherwsie, we you can never have enough good corners. And with teams like the Giants now having 3 stud WRs, you better have at least 3 good corners.
 

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Risen Star;4567969 said:
I don't see how asking for a trade right now is pouting. He's just playing the hand he's been dealt. The writing's on the wall in Dallas. If he wants to leave he better act now.

The pouting is taking his ball and staying home specifically because he wants a trade. Knowing the reason why makes a difference for me.

This is really a non issue to me. It's an OTA in May. He'll be in camp and play in the games if he's still on the roster this year. He'll play well too. Better than Carr, in fact. As long as health isn't an issue.

It mainly is for me too. Just as long as the team doesn't give in to him.

I don't get your rebound comment. Jenkins played well last year, all things considered.

Better than the year before, but there's a reason nobody is willing to trade anything for him.
 

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speedkilz88;4567996 said:
Do you really want to go with Mario Butler and Isaac Madison as your 4th and 5th CBs? They still have a need for Mike Jenkins because they have no idea if any of those bottom of the depth chart guys can play.

Yes, I'd rather go with anyone but Jenkins. It is a waste of time. He's shown his sour attitude and it affects young players and his play will never be 100% going into this season. His mind frame is just not in that place and I'll go so far as to say it never will be while being a Cowboy, maybe I'm wrong. Let the younger players fight for the position. If anything the team will learn much faster who to cut and who not to cut.

And for the record, I loved Jenkins and defended him all of the time. I would have loved to see him play but the mental aspect to winning is something, IMO, that has been lacking for a very long time on the team, this is one thing that contributes to it.
 

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It would be different if Jenkins wasn't showing up just because he was injured.

But him not showing up because he's upset about his status is pretty crappy, IMO. You're under contract - show up.

Like I said before this tells me that he's already conceded that he's not as good as Carr or Claiborne and has no desire to compete. That's mental weakness. It's like the old lady who's been secretary for 20 years gets all butthurt over a hot new intern being hired.
 

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Doomsday101;4567853 said:
I like jenkins but not thrilled about a player not willing to accept competition. We moverd up and got the best defensive player in the draft by many accounts if that makes you upset so be it.

It's not competition. He's lost his job no matter what.
 

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DFWJC;4568005 said:
He's too good of a player to just sit him. And early on I guarantee Claiborne will not be completely ready. And if Claiborne and/or Carr go down, we are back to square one.

Like I said earlier, if we could get at least decent value for him, I'd take it. But otherwsie, we you can never have enough good corners. And with teams like the Giants now having 3 stud WRs, you better have at least 3 good corners.

I see where you're coming from. It is a scary thought to think about one of them going down. I just think in the long run it really hurts a young team to let him play now.
 

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stasheroo;4567944 said:
I could see your point if he wasn't recovering from serious injury. The smart thing to do is to get back to the team and work with specialists getting healthy and up to speed on what's going on.

But instead he would rather pout and complain, thinking it will somehow get him what he wants.

In fact it will only do more damage to a player in need of a career rebound.

How do you know that he can't recover and rehab better on his own where he can pay people to focus 100% on his recovery?
 

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casmith07;4568009 said:
It would be different if Jenkins wasn't showing up just because he was injured.

But him not showing up because he's upset about his status is pretty crappy, IMO. You're under contract - show up.

Like I said before this tells me that he's already conceded that he's not as good as Carr or Claiborne and has no desire to compete. That's mental weakness.
I think JG already saw that he wasn't a RKG, and his actions now just prove his point...I don't think we see him with a star on his helmet unless he does a complete about face with his attitude
 
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