Report: STL Post Dispatch: Rams hire Spagnuolo *Merge*

[Da Hammer]

well this sucks... not so much that Red is returning although im not as high on him as some here are but moreso because this probably means Wade will be back. Should be fun watching once again a unmotivated, careless mistake prone, no leadership type team again this coming season! My dream of having Shanahan here continues to die...

 

[Chocolate Lab]

A) Possibly, but not necessarily. They may have said, "the flights on us, just come out here with your wife, let her see the city and we'll hammer out the contract details".

B) Would you take a "promotion" that pays you less money and forces you to move to a less desirable situation? Garrett assumes that he will get more head coaching offers in the future, either from Dallas or from other teams. It's a gamble, but it's probably a smart one.

I can't imagine they didn't talk general $$$ parameters pretty early. They wouldn't go through that entire process and then bring up money at the last second, then Garrett say "Oops, not enough, I'm out."

My guess is he was never going to be the HC, just like their local media reported the whole time.

 

[dadymat]

Umm Because maybe Romo came in half way through the season of 2006? We had Drew Deadslow. Did that ever enter into your mind??? Our Offense started showing signs of potential when Romo came in for Bledsoe. Even with conservative playcalling trying to protect Romo in his first year.. Think before you post. Finally started a full year in 2007 and broke records.

im sorry i thought were talking about coaches...because when i brought up why Garrett struggled (players)you called them excuses...but you are gonna blame Sparanos struggles on (players)...........

come on man think before you post.......

and Romo didnt come in halfway through the season it was game 5.....and did well until the end of the season when they finished 1-3, losiing first round of playoffs sound familiar? whos fault was that? Garrett wasnt here

 

[rangers71]

Why even respond to me with this?? What is the relevance to what another poster thinks have anything to do with what i am talking about? If i had said the things you are talking about then yea id understand. But i don't know what the hell you are talking about. Delete your account.

Dude chill the **** out I never said you were the person saying this stuff. It was a rhetorical question. My god calm down. And if you don't want to read what I sat put me on ignore. How bout we delete your account.

 

[wileedog]

A) Possibly, but not necessarily. They may have said, "the flights on us, just come out here with your wife, let her see the city and we'll hammer out the contract details".

I have a hard time believing that at no point in the conversation to date that financial considerations hadn't come up. Salary expectations are one of the first things I try to find out when I interview people.

Its possible, but:

B) Would you take a "promotion" that pays you less money and forces you to move to a less desirable situation? Garrett assumes that he will get more head coaching offers in the future, either from Dallas or from other teams. It's a gamble, but it's probably a smart one.

Its an NFL Head Coaching position. There are 32 in the entire world. This is not the same as comparing it to a middle management slot in an insurance company.

If he goes on record turning down 3 straight NFL offers, he is really gambling that people will bother calling him anymore. Is he going to risk that because he is needs to take a salary cut (one that still leaves him pretty rich)? That's some very short-sighted thinking, and if Red is as smart as everyone thinks not likely.

Doesn't add up.

 

[jakester]

he was hired 4 years 12 mill-just reported

 

[masomenos]

I can't imagine they didn't talk general $$$ parameters pretty early. They wouldn't go through that entire process and then bring up money at the last second, then Garrett say "Oops, not enough, I'm out."

My guess is he was never going to be the HC, just like their local media reported the whole time.

I'm sure that they did talk general #s, but Garrett may have believed that it was something that could be raised at the negotiation table. Your probably right, he probably wasn't offered the job. I'm just arguing the point.

 

[JordanTaber]

Or maybe he didn't turn the job down. Maybe he wasn't offered the position.

That's exactly what happened.

Does anyone here honestly believe Garrett would be interviewing for so many jobs...and then turning them down?

Get real.

 

[rangers71]

Maybe he got a frantic call from Jerry saying he was going to cut TO, and drop the hammer on Wade this weekend and the head job was his?

 

[Yoshimitsu]

and Romo didnt come in halfway through the season it was game 5.....and did well until the end of the season when they finished 1-3, losiing first round of playoffs sound familiar? whos fault was that? Garrett wasnt here

If Romo would have handled that snap Garrett wouldn't even be on the staff.

 

[dadymat]

Maybe he got a frantic call from Jerry saying he was going to cut TO, and drop the hammer on Wade this weekend and the head job was his?

that would be the only reason i can think of..............

 

[dadymat]

If Romo would have handled that snap Garrett wouldn't even be on the staff.

if frogs had wings...................


but your right Romo sucks as a place kick holder...........whats your point?

 

[wileedog]

Maybe he got a frantic call from Jerry saying he was going to cut TO, and drop the hammer on Wade this weekend and the head job was his?

I thinks its more likely that if there ever was an offer from the Rams on the table they gauged the overwhelmingly negative reactions from fans and more importantly the local media and got cold feet. Spags is certainly the 'safer' pick based on production the last two years.

Don't get me wrong though, I am hoping for your scenario.

 

[Yoshimitsu]

im sorry i thought were talking about coaches...because when i brought up why Garrett struggled (players)you called them excuses...but you are gonna blame Sparanos struggles on (players)...........

Im sorry when did i ever blame things on anybody?.. I never made an excuse for Sparano. Maybe you need to read. I just gave you facts and you come back with B.S.. We all know Garrett or Sparano couldn't have a good offense with Drew Bledsoe. No coach could. Garrett is not the coach you think he is.. If he is then how come he couldn't land a job??? Remember last year he was the hot ticket. Now when he got exposed this year he is the worst candidate to sign.

 

[masomenos]

I have a hard time believing that at no point in the conversation to date that financial considerations hadn't come up. Salary expectations are one of the first things I try to find out when I interview people.

Its possible, but:



Its an NFL Head Coaching position. There are 32 in the entire world. This is not the same as comparing it to a middle management slot in an insurance company.

As you say, if he goes on record turning down 3 straight NFL offers, he is really gambling that people will bother calling him anymore. Is he going to risk that because he is needs to take a salary cut (one that still leaves him pretty rich)? That's some very short-sighted thinking, and if Red is as smart as everyone thinks not likely.

Doesn't add up.

I'm not saying that money didn't come up at all. I just don't think that it would be improbable that general contract terms had been discussed and Garrett believed he could get a salary more in line with what he wanted through negotiation.

Also, I don't think that it would entirely be about money. Maybe Garrett realized that the Rams aren't going to be a successful team any time soon. Coaches with unsuccessful teams typically have a pretty short stint with that team. If he still believes that he would be the front runner for the Dallas job (which I imagine he would have a better idea of than we do) then he could be willing to wait it out for another year. I don't think that would be short sighted at all.

 

[masomenos]

That's exactly what happened.

Does anyone here honestly believe Garrett would be interviewing for so many jobs...and then turning them down?

Get real.

He's done it twice in the past, so it's not exactly outside of the realm of possibility.

 

[Yoshimitsu]

if frogs had wings...................


but your right Romo sucks as a place kick holder...........whats your point?

The point is how is it Sparano's fault he bobbled the snap??

That's the point. Maybe you should try harder to understand.

 

[InmanRoshi]

I thinks its more likely that if there ever was an offer from the Rams on the table they gauged the overwhelmingly negative reactions from fans and more importantly the local media and got cold feet.

I think it's pretty obvious that's what happened.

Garrett was the favorite, but not enough of a clear cut favorite to support fan revolt. At the end of the day teams have to sell season tickets.

Ram fans apparently have higher standards than we do. It's say to say, but it's the truth. And thanks to the fans' uproar, they got a much better coach for their football team.

 

[wileedog]

If he still believes that he would be the front runner for the Dallas job (which I imagine he would have a better idea of than we do) then he could be willing to wait it out for another year. I don't think that would be short sighted at all.

Again, why fly out to St Louis to tell them you think you would rather coach the Cowboys next year? Telephones rock for these kinds of things.

As I said above, far more likely this came from the Rams side. I know you're playing Devil's Advocate, but usually the simplest thing makes the most sense.

 

[dadymat]

Im sorry when did i ever blame things on anybody?.. I never made an excuse for Sparano. Maybe you need to read. I just gave you facts and you come back with B.S.. We all know Garrett or Sparano couldn't have a good offense with Drew Bledsoe. No coach could. Garrett is not the coach you think he is.. If he is then how come he couldn't land a job??? Remember last year he was the hot ticket. Now when he got exposed this year he is the worst candidate to sign.

you my sir are an idiot...............did you not just blame the 2006 offense not being as good as the 2007 offense by saying it was because Bledsoe was the QB for 5 games?

so keep on firing back with nothing but statements aimed at making others to be stupid without looking at yourself in the mirror first.......


maybe you should read ....your own posts