Revisting the Wentz vs Dak debate

[Clove]

At this point, the only way you can conclude that Wentz is a better pro QB than Dak is if you really really really use your imagination.

You have to imagine how much better Wentz would be performing if he had a better supporting cast on offense.

You have to imagine how poorly Dak would be performing if he wasn't surrounded by such a good offense.

You have to imagine that the Philly WR's and TE's are 100% completely incapable of gaining separation from defenders, as this justifies Wentz's dinking and dunking.

You have to imagine that the Cowboys' 2015 season never happened, that way we can say any QB could perform well in this offense, thus negating Dak's stellar performance.

You have to imagine that Philly's coaching staff is for whatever illogical reason not allowing Wentz to unleash that cannon of an arm on opposing defenses, because we all know he has such as amazing arm. Even though we haven't seen it yet.

So you see, all of us who haven't adopted the Wentz fetish yet, just need to work on using our imagination. Our problem is that we're stuck in reality, where, Dak has performed better in every possible way.

I don't know how many times I have to say this. HE TOOK A SORRY MISSISSIPPI STATE TEAM TO #1 IN THE COUNTRY. That proves he can win without talent. When has Wentz done things like this in his life?

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

shoulda.. woulda... coulda...

We all know if Wentz played for the Patriots instead of Tom Brady, Wentz would have achieved the same or better career than Tom. Wentz has more physical gifts, so thus he'd make those Patriot offenses better than Tom ever could. Same goes for Aikman in Dallas. Joe Montana in San Fran. Any great player with talent around them and coaching, Wentz would be superior.

 

[GIFTS86]

Seeing this from this angle. Wow. There is nothing else you can say.

 

[Proximo]

I don't know how many times I have to say this. HE TOOK A SORRY MISSISSIPPI STATE TEAM TO #1 IN THE COUNTRY. That proves he can win without talent. When has Wentz done things like this in his life?

Bro you're just not using your imagination enough.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

I don't know how many times I have to say this. HE TOOK A SORRY MISSISSIPPI STATE TEAM TO #1 IN THE COUNTRY. That proves he can win without talent. When has Wentz done things like this in his life?

Thank you! Of course if Wentz played there, he'd have gone undefeated his entire college career at Mississippi state.

 

[Supercowboy1986]

I don't know how many times I have to say this. HE TOOK A SORRY MISSISSIPPI STATE TEAM TO #1 IN THE COUNTRY. That proves he can win without talent. When has Wentz done things like this in his life?

It is alright. It's literally 2 people versus the field with no support for their argument.

I don't care if either admit they are wrong. I know they are wrong. You know they are wrong. Dakota Rayne's ball boy knows they are wrong. Wentz's boyfriend knows he is wrong.

It's too easy. I could keep going.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

The arc on Wentz's screen passes are what set him apart.

 

[reddyuta]

I was driving today and tuned into ESPn and heard that Todd Archer is a Dak hater.He thinks this is as good as it gets and he wont improve,he thinks he doesnt throw guys open like Romo..I think its a bit harsh on a Rookie Qb with 23 TDs and 2 INTs.

 

[Risen Star]

Seeing this from this angle. Wow. There is nothing else you can say.

His entire 195 yards passing in that game was a thing of beauty.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

"Mississippi State ranked No. 1 in the nation"

Starkville is home to the No. 1 team in the country -- in both polls.
Mississippi State began the day receiving the top spot in the Amway Coaches Poll. About an hour later the Associated Press Poll confirmed the ranking.
It's the first time in school history MSU is ranked No. 1 in either poll.

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/...2014/10/12/msu-ranked-no1-in-nation/17152637/

 

[Broges74]

lol. I appreciate the graphic to support my simple observation. I know one or one people here on the board that are probably not happy golden boy Wentz has clearly hit the wall.

He has a cannon for an arm, with touch. He's a true rook and has a slower release. He will get better.

Dak is just too good to be true. Unbelievable guy and extremely confident and humble at the same time. Has NFL average arm, a quicker release and impeccable preparation/decision making ability . Very early but I think he's going to become way better very quickly . The improvement from week 1 is evident . I see Brady in Dak. He has a chance to be great.

 

[Risen Star]

I was driving today and tuned into ESPn and heard that Todd Archer is a Dak hater.He thinks this is as good as it gets and he wont improve,he thinks he doesnt throw guys open like Romo..I think its a bit harsh on a Rookie Qb with 23 TDs and 2 INTs.

A lot of truth to that.

He threw for 195 yards. That's pedestrian. He's a manager of the offense. That's fine for a rookie but this idiotic talk of MVP is laughable.

 

[percyhoward]

Seeing this from this angle. Wow. There is nothing else you can say.

That was on 3rd and 9.

Conversion rate, 3rd and 6+
(pass only)
1 Dak Prescott 39.0%
2 Tom Brady 35.4%
3 Philip Rivers 35.2%

 

[willia451]

We all know if Wentz played for the Patriots instead of Tom Brady, Wentz would have achieved the same or better career than Tom. Wentz has more physical gifts, so thus he'd make those Patriot offenses better than Tom ever could. Same goes for Aikman in Dallas. Joe Montana in San Fran. Any great player with talent around them and coaching, Wentz would be superior.

We actually don't know any of that. But. I would like to see it.

The real question is if Wentz were playing for the Cowboys instead of the Eagles, would he be having the same success or better than Dak is having right now. And if Dak were playing for the Eagles instead of the Cowboys, would he be doing better than Wentz?

We don't know any of that either. We'll never know.

But.........I'd still like to switch them out for a few games. Just to see.

As long as we could switch them back later. And no harm done.

LOL!!!

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

We actually don't know any of that. But. I would like to see it.

The real question is if Wentz were playing for the Cowboys instead of the Eagles, would he be having the same success or better than Dak is having right now. And if Dak were playing for the Eagles instead of the Cowboys, would he be doing better than Wentz?

We don't know any of that either. We'll never know.

But.........I'd still like to switch them out for a few games. Just to see.

As long as we could switch them back later. And no harm done.

LOL!!!

Leadership and composure is what makes Dak, Dak. Reason he got Mississippi st. to the #1 ranking, when it was evident he didn't have the talent.

 

[Bleu Star]

The arc on Wentz's screen passes are what set him apart.

Oh god... *dead*

 

[Doomsday]

I was driving today and tuned into ESPn and heard that Todd Archer is a Dak hater.He thinks this is as good as it gets and he wont improve,he thinks he doesnt throw guys open like Romo..I think its a bit harsh on a Rookie Qb with 23 TDs and 2 INTs.

Yea, I hear a lot of people comparing his rookie year to RGIII etc... Only problem with that theory is those guys were running a pure zone read type offense. Dak is not, he is running a NFL style offense and he has been having more and more success under center as the season has gone along as well.

 

[Maxmadden]

Wentz took the 2015 NDSU Bisons to the National Championship.


Nevermind, that he took over a team that was 30-1 the previous two seasons.

 

[willia451]

A lot of truth to that.

He threw for 195 yards. That's pedestrian. He's a manager of the offense. That's fine for a rookie but this idiotic talk of MVP is laughable.

Pedestrian players still win SBs and get MVPs. Ask Troy Aikman. He's on record as saying Tony Romo is a far better QB than he ever was.

Yet. Troy has 3 rings and is in the HOF. Tony has no rings and will probably never be in the HOF.

So you tell me. Is life fair? Or is it all just luck of the draw?

 

[percyhoward]

He threw for 195 yards. That's pedestrian. He's a manager of the offense. That's fine for a rookie but this idiotic talk of MVP is laughable.

Yards per game
2016 Prescott 257.7
2014 Romo 255.5

That doesn't include rushing yards.