RG3: "We made Cowboys Stadium our Home"

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Apollo Creed;5075028 said:
As you post pictures from last year, technically the past.

You finally won a roller coaster division and got outed in the first round of the playoffs. You act like you won the super bowl or something, really not a good look bro - bout time your team got off its knees in the cellar of this division.

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Apollo Creed;5075028 said:
As you post pictures from last year, technically the past.

If there are more recent Cowboy-Commanders game pics you want to post, feel free to do so :)

Thread title: "We made Cowboys stadium our home"

Pictures confirm this.
 

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Apollo Creed;5075031 said:
You've always kinda sucked, now youve reached a new low chumming it up with a Skins fan.

Not chumming it up. Just stating my opinion.
 

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SkinsHokieFan;5075032 said:
Graziano made a good point after week 17.

The Cowboys don't have players who are "available"

By the end of the game who were the WRs you had in? Dez and Miles were both out.

That could have played a part. But it was honestly the same middle blitz over and over that game which annihilated Romo until Haslett added the one final tweak of having Jackson drop into coverage for the final INT.

The state of our interior OLine really limits what Garret can do on offense. We need to establish a run game but that was simply impossible with an unhealthy Murray and no holes to run through. Fred should help out and he easily has the brains to keep the line organized calling out assignments. Still needs a little more work though. Overall we were just simply limited to one dimension. It's a problem but it's also fixable.
 

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SkinsHokieFan;5075032 said:
Graziano made a good point after week 17.

The Cowboys don't have players who are "available"

By the end of the game who were the WRs you had in? Dez and Miles were both out.

That could have played a part. But it was honestly the same middle blitz over and over that game which annihilated Romo until Haslett added the one final tweak of having Jackson drop into coverage for the final INT.

The receivers we had on the field did not matter. Could've had Rice & Irvin out there. Would not matter.


If you're going to all out blitz us and we're going to max protect and not get more guys out on routes than we're screwed if our guys can't get off the jam extremely quick.

The refs were letting the DB's get physical that game.

We should've said screw trying to protect and beat your blitz with formations that got our guys open quick. 5 wide and quick passes would've killed that blitz. Not Max protection with sideline passes and not exposing the middle of the field.
 

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SkinsHokieFan;5075011 said:
I like to live in the present

With your recent past, we don't blame you.

And, assuming you're defining 'present' as last season, right up until your head coach hobbled your franchise.

In the actual present, you've got a question mark around the ability of your best player to play at the level he reached as a rookie and another one about how long he'll be able to hold up in this league given how you're using him.
 

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Idgit;5075064 said:
In the actual present, you've got a question mark around the ability of your best player to play at the level he reached as a rookie and another one about how long he'll be able to hold up in this league given how you're using him.

Absolutley.

Thus far, everything indicates RG3 will come back healthy.

Of course none of us will know until he actually gets on the field.

Having Cousins handing off to Morris and throwing to Garcon isn't exactly chopped liver either. It isn't RG3 doing it, but Cousins>>>>>>to recent Commanders QB play

Cousins to me projects to a Matt Schuab type player. Smart, decent mobility, good arm and can fit in the ZBS bootleg scheme which is classic Shanahan. I wouldn't label him to have top 5 QB potential, but in the 10-12 range if he has the right type of players and scheme around him. Which in DC he would.

Essentially the Commanders would be fine with Cousins, a playoff contender every year and if things go right a division winner every few years. With a healthy RG3 the potential is clearly much higher.

Overall Shanahan has done an excellent job of building a quality offense, and thankfully has a Plan B in place in case plan A can't hold up
 

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SkinsHokieFan;5075205 said:
Absolutley.

Thus far, everything indicates RG3 will come back healthy.

Of course none of us will know until he actually gets on the field.

Having Cousins handing off to Morris and throwing to Garcon isn't exactly chopped liver either. It isn't RG3 doing it, but Cousins>>>>>>to recent Commanders QB play

Cousins to me projects to a Matt Schuab type player. Smart, decent mobility, good arm and can fit in the ZBS bootleg scheme which is classic Shanahan. I wouldn't label him to have top 5 QB potential, but in the 10-12 range if he has the right type of players and scheme around him. Which in DC he would.

Essentially the Commanders would be fine with Cousins, a playoff contender every year and if things go right a division winner every few years. With a healthy RG3 the potential is clearly much higher.

Overall Shanahan has done an excellent job of building a quality offense, and thankfully has a Plan B in place in case plan A can't hold up

I like what you've done with your team overall. A lot, actually. And I love RGIII as a player, overall. I really do hope he comes back and has a great career.

It's way too early to tell on Cousins yet. He looks really promising, too, but give DCs in this league 6-8 games to expose a QB, and things have a way of changing pretty dramatically sometimes. Either way, you guys might have struck gold twice at QB in one offseason. That's all you need to turn a moribund franchise around. I love it, and hate it, at the same time. The league is better when both of our teams are at least decent.
 

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lol I cant believe you guys are even offended by this.

Hes a Commander and hes talking to skins fans. Did you think he was going to say hes scared of the Dallas Cowboys or any other team for that matter?

Id be disappointed if he didnt want to be a part of the NFCE rivalries.
 

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Idgit;5075211 said:
I like what you've done with your team overall. A lot, actually. And I love RGIII as a player, overall. I really do hope he comes back and has a great career.

It's way too early to tell on Cousins yet. He looks really promising, too, but give DCs in this league 6-8 games to expose a QB, and things have a way of changing pretty dramatically sometimes. Either way, you guys might have struck gold twice at QB in one offseason. That's all you need to turn a moribund franchise around. I love it, and hate it, at the same time. The league is better when both of our teams are at least decent.

Shanahan has instilled two things into this franchise that were sorely lacking (other than the obvious idiocy from the front office) is he has players who want to be here (evidenced by Wilson, Hall etc. taking straight pay cuts to stay with the team), and people who want to work: i.e Trent Williams' improvement. He is my 2nd favorite Commander behind Griffin. He was put in the time to get better, and it shows.
 

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SkinsHokieFan;5075011 said:
I like to live in the present






2012-12-30-tony-romo-4_3_r536_c534.jpg

You realise that those are also part of the past? Or are we changing the definition of present in order to fit your very small sample size?
 

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Also you can count me in the camp that believes when RG3 comes back it will be a healthy RG3.

I also believe that it won't matter because they'll continue to use him like a gimmick college offense QB, he'll continue to be beaten down, and he'll be hurt over and over again.

He's the new version of Vick, although I feel like he's a better player than Vick ever had a hope of being, and because of this he's going to take beatings and he's never going to get the Skins to a Superbowl.


Which is fine by me. He can have all the cute highlight reel plays, and awesome youtube video montage moments in the world while he's in DC, as long as he continues to be used the way he is, continues to get banged up and hurt, and never wins a big one for DC I'll be absolutely thrilled.
 

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RastaRocket;5074980 said:
LOL it's not necessarily a Tampa 2. It's just a 4-3 defense and Kiffin/Marinelli were some of the best hires Jerry has made in a long time. Our D will be much better and not injured. The injuries we had on defense last season to key players was outrageous.

We should be much better against the run with the switch to 4-3 and healthy LB's.

You do realize you're about to run a 4-3 D with 3-4 players right? Good luck with that! :lmao2:
 

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egn22;5074998 said:
its funny because going into next season i'm more concerned about the Giants than i am the Commanders. I'm not buying what they're selling just yet. The Giants are much more of a challenge in my opinion.
But the Commanders hype is entertaining though. it seems like every year the media hypes someone in the NFC east, that team proves the media wrong. Saw it when they predicted the Giants to win the conference and they missed the playoffs. Saw it when Philly "won" free agency and missed the playoffs. Saw it even when WE were supposed to have a big year and we flamed out. Commanders are no exception. The media hype is off the charts right now, and that team has A LOT to live up to. good luck with all of that. i personally LOVE flying under the radar and being the underdog.

Dallas is supposed to suck, and i don't believe it for a second. But i'm happy everyone else believes it.

Please show evidence of this media hype. EVERYONE is riding Chip Kelly's balls saying how innovative he is. Hell did you watch the draft? None of the panel picked us to win the division.
 

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SkinsHokieFan;5074990 said:
When I see Red Bryant, Richard Sherman, Kam Chancellor and Earl Thomas on your D, I might be worried.

I see an old D-Ware who was confused out of his jock in week 17, and a secondary that struggled covering Aldrick Robinson

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Yea an "old DWare" that played injured and is still better at 80% than anybody the Skins got period. Just wait till Ware and Spencer are meeting at BobbyG3 and folding him over. If he does get away then he can just say hello to Mr. Carter who's probably almost as quick. And saying Ware was "confused" is just reaching for an insult. You're confusing him being lost with trying to make up for an injury riddled defense including himself.
 

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RG3 will suffer the same fate as Cam Newton,Vince Young, MichaelVick and all other similar quartebacks. They do great the first year based on athletic ability and defensive coordinators not familiar with their strengths and weaknesses. They surprise defenses and everybody jumps on the bandwagon. How did that work out for Cam last year? Defenses will catch up especially with 16-17 games of tape to study. Look at Vick..he has only finished one 16 game season( I think) in his career. I see a very similar career path for RG3, without prison lol, he is not gonna be able to hold up running around like he does. We all saw what happened after he lost his legs against Seattle.He had no chance because he's not beating you from the pocket. Skins fans know it too. Take away his runs from last season and what are his stats? 3000 yards passing? I'm just guessing.
 

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SkinsHokieFan;5074990 said:
When I see Red Bryant, Richard Sherman, Kam Chancellor and Earl Thomas on your D, I might be worried.

I see an old D-Ware who was confused out of his jock in week 17, and a secondary that struggled covering Aldrick Robinson

Where exactly did the Cowboys have trouble covering Aldrick Robinson in week 17? Recieving, zero catches. Kick/Punt returns, zero.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=321230028
 

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PJTHEDOORS;5076833 said:
Where exactly did the Cowboys have trouble covering Aldrick Robinson in week 17? Recieving, zero catches. Kick/Punt returns, zero.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=321230028

I believe he's referencing the problems from each game as two reasons he's not worried about the Dallas Defense at all this year.

He's under the impression, and rightfully so, that the defense isn't going to be able to do anything to stop Washington cause by his thought process either Ware is going to remain 'confused' and not be able to be a factor or if Ware starts playing great the secondary won't be able to cover anyone.


The only thing I see wrong with what he's trying to pass off here is the idea that Ware played poorly because he was confused, which is completely stupid, and not because he was 1 armed and had absolutely no business being on that field.

Anyone watching should have known, immediately, that Ware should not have been playing because he simply couldn't play effectively with the injuries he had.


Some people just like to try and make their gimmick offenses seem way more complicated than they really are and I suspect it's due to the fear that this gimmick offense, which will now be intensively studied by all teams due to Washington using it last year, the Eagles likely using it this year, and the 49ers to some degree using it, is going to wind up very much like the Wildcat did.

Amazing, trendy, ever so confusing and hard to stop....for about a season and a half. Then the defenses, as they always do, catch up and that college gimmick crap doesn't work.
 

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Vabeachboy;5076831 said:
RG3 will suffer the same fate as Cam Newton,Vince Young, MichaelVick and all other similar quartebacks. They do great the first year based on athletic ability and defensive coordinators not familiar with their strengths and weaknesses. They surprise defenses and everybody jumps on the bandwagon. How did that work out for Cam last year? Defenses will catch up especially with 16-17 games of tape to study. Look at Vick..he has only finished one 16 game season( I think) in his career. I see a very similar career path for RG3, without prison lol, he is not gonna be able to hold up running around like he does. We all saw what happened after he lost his legs against Seattle.He had no chance because he's not beating you from the pocket. Skins fans know it too. Take away his runs from last season and what are his stats? 3000 yards passing? I'm just guessing.

Not sure why this board is always down on Cam. He had a big yr last yr. He has a weak wr corps. Hes significantly better than any of the qbs you just compared him to.
 

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Sonny#9;5075351 said:
Shanahan has instilled two things into this franchise that were sorely lacking (other than the obvious idiocy from the front office) is he has players who want to be here (evidenced by Wilson, Hall etc. taking straight pay cuts to stay with the team), and people who want to work: i.e Trent Williams' improvement. He is my 2nd favorite Commander behind Griffin. He was put in the time to get better, and it shows.

This is so true. I've noticed the change in the players as they take pride in playing for Washington now, and really want to be here. Fans aren't the only ones who get demoralized by poor drafting and poor FA signings, the core players do too. We can tell the recent smart draft picks and FA decisions the past two years have helped locker room morale tremendously.
 
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