Rivera Debate Begins Anew

[Biggems]

Bring in Rivera as a DE......and sign Dwight Freeney who is an UFA......

move back to the 4-3 and have Ware on one side and Freeney on the other.....I have a feeling our pass rush would improve tremendously.

BTW, I dont really want to pay for Freeney...just bringing up an option

 

[Bob Sacamano]

That was embarrassing... For a SB QB to not be able to take advantage of that is just insulting.

Manning didn't take advantage of the immense opportunities he was given either

 

[Cowboy Junkie]

I just want to get on record that I didn't like the Rivera idea too much before this game. I don't want to be lumped in with the goombahs that are out now that he lost in the Super Bowl.

I am not jumping on Rivera for this one game..even though it was the biggest game of his coaching career and he failed miserably...

I stated in another post long before the game that I felt that Rivera was not as good as the hype and I not only stand by that but was vindicated from tonights game.

 

[theebs]

I maybe wrong here, not sure off the top of my head but Mike Holgmrens last game as a coordinator for the niners with that stellar offense was an nfc championship loss to the giants 15-13. In fact their offense lost the game when roger craig fumbled.

Green Bay hired him and it turned out alright. Pretty shortsighted and ingnorant to view one game as a deciding factor.

 

[peplaw06]

I just want to get on record that I didn't like the Rivera idea too much before this game. I don't want to be lumped in with the goombahs that are out now that he lost in the Super Bowl.

I'll go on record and say I still want him. I think he was put in a no-win situation because the Bears offense was putrid. If Grossman gets more than 5 first downs in the first 3 quarters, then it could have been a different story.

And like others stated, they still held Indy to 22 on offense with 6 red zone trips.

That said, I would have liked to se emore pressure on Manning. If your D can't get off the field without bringing an extra rusher, IMO you have to take more chances. But it's a sort of Catch 22, because your guys start to get tired, and it gets harder to get to the QB.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I maybe wrong here, not sure off the top of my head but Mike Holgmrens last game as a coordinator for the niners with that stellar offense was an nfc championship loss to the giants 15-13. In fact their offense lost the game when roger craig fumbled.

Green Bay hired him and it turned out alright. Pretty shortsighted and ingnorant to view one game as a deciding factor.

yep, esp. when the front-runner has 9 years of sucktitude on his resume

 

[Cbz40]

I maybe wrong here, not sure off the top of my head but Mike Holgmrens last game as a coordinator for the niners with that stellar offense was an nfc championship loss to the giants 15-13. In fact their offense lost the game when roger craig fumbled.

Green Bay hired him and it turned out alright. Pretty shortsighted and ingnorant to view one game as a deciding factor.

You beat me to it......Great analogy

 

[peplaw06]

Manning didn't take advantage of the immense opportunities he was given either

I agree... but it wasn't like Chicago was purposely giving him the ball at Midfield all game. I give credit to the Bears D for that.

 

[theebs]

You beat me to it......Great analogy

I maybe wrong though, that was the 90 season, and I think holmgren was hired in 92, so he was there in 91 again.

like I said though doing it off my head.

lol I am way wrong. He was back in 91, and they missed the playoffs that year, finishing 10-6 however the last game of the season the niners beat the bears 52-14 in what was the last game as a coach for holmgren in sf.

I dont think that game meant anything to the bears though, they had the home game in the wild card wrapped up to play us...."the Tom Waddell" game the next week. My all time favorite cowboys game.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Zimmer put together a better game plan for the Colts than Rivera has to this point.

Yeah I'm pissed Zimmer is gone from Dallas, that really hurt this team. Rivera's game plan failed miserably!

 

[theogt]

I maybe wrong here, not sure off the top of my head but Mike Holgmrens last game as a coordinator for the niners with that stellar offense was an nfc championship loss to the giants 15-13. In fact their offense lost the game when roger craig fumbled.

Green Bay hired him and it turned out alright. Pretty shortsighted and ingnorant to view one game as a deciding factor.

That was the 1990 season. He was coordinator for the 9ers during the 1991 season. The last game of that season was a 52-14 win.

Great memory, nonetheless.

 

[Cbz40]

I maybe wrong though, that was the 90 season, and I think holmgren was hired in 92, so he was there in 91 again.

like I said though doing it off my head.

I don't remember the year.....But What the Hay! What's a couple of years.

 

[ndanger]

On the positive side....he should be a few hundred thousand or a cool million cheaper after the lost.I'm just sayin'.

 

[Thick 'N Hearty]

In retrospect, maybe Rivera's D got the Bears to he championship. too bad they didn't have an offense to match the D.

 

[Oh_Canada]

I wouldn't mind Rivera as Head Coach, but no way do I want to see the Boys go back to a 4-3...not when there one or two players away form a dominant 3-4 defense.

 

[Catch-22]

The Bears took the wrong approach when game planning the Colts offense.

The Cowboys/Chargers/Patriots proved that the way to beat the Colts is to bring pressure and disrupt the timing of their offense. Make them go to the middle of the field, and if they catch a pass there you drill their receivers.

A lot of teams can't do this because they don't have the pressure players to do it. The Bears certainly have the personnel on defense to pressure Manning, and when they did, it had success. Instead they chose to let Manning and the offense dictate the playcalling. It makes all the more sense to pressure Manning heavily in those kind of weather conditions. It concerns me that Rivera seemed to think that a "bend but dont' break" would work against the Colts when it has historically proven to be ineffective. This speaks nothing about what he might do in Dallas, but it is something worth noting.

 

[blindzebra]

Wikipedia
Ron Rivera
Ron (Chico) Rivera (born January 7, 1962 in Fort Ord, California) is the first American of Puerto Rican descent to play in the NFL (National Football League).

Ron Rivera


Rivera's parents were born in Puerto Rico. His father joined the Army and was a commissioned officer stationed in California where Ron was born. As a result of his father's military service, Rivera had to travel and was educated in military bases in Germany, Panama, Washington and Maryland. Finally his family moved to central California where he attended Seaside High School. That's where he started playing football.

Rivera was granted a college scholarship and played for the Golden Bears at the University of California, Berkeley. He was an All-American linebacker who once held his school's all-time sack record and was first in career tackles. Rivera still holds the Cal record for most tackles for-a-loss in a season in 1983.

In 1984, Rivera was a second round choice draft pick for the Chicago Bears, becoming the first Puerto Rican to play in the "NFL". In 1985, he played in Super Bowl XX, which the Bears won and he thus became the first Puerto Rican to play in a Super Bowl Championship Team. Rivera played for the Bears for a total of nine seasons (1984-1992). Rivera also participated in the Super Bowl Shuffle, a rap music video the Bears made.

In 1993, Rivera went to work for a WGN-TV and SportsChannel in Chicago as a T.V. analyst covering the Bears and college football. In 1996, he became the defense quality control coach for the Bears.

In 1999, Rivera was named linebackers coach for the Philadelphia Eagles. During his tenure the Eagles advanced to the NFC (National Football Conference) Championships for three consecutive seasons. He is credited with developing linebacker Jeremiah Trotter into a two-time Pro Bowl performer.

On January 23, 2004, Rivera was named the Chicago Bears Defensive Coordinator, becoming the first Puerto Rican in the history of the NFL to hold such a position. In 2005, the Chicago Bears defense was rated #2 in the NFL. The Bears qualified for the NFC Play-Offs losing in the 2nd Round to the Carolina Panthers 29-21. The 2005 season output of the Chicago Bears has earned him consideration for Head Coach assignments from several NFL teams.

Ron Rivera is married and has two children (Christopher, 20 & Courtney, 13) with his wife Stephanie, an assistant coach for the WNBAs Washington Mystics. In 2003 Rivera was inducted into the Division 1-A College Football Hall of Fame. He is also a member of the California Sports Hall of Fame.



His formative years were spent with Buddy Ryan and Jim Johnson...I bet he'll be plenty aggressive when given a chance to put his face on a defense for the first time.

 

[randy932]

Yes, but the Bears Defense showed NO halftime adjustments which allowed the Colts to march down the filed to open the second half and establish the momentum for the rest of the game. To me that was alarming because I saw a lot of the same things from the Bears D in the second half that I saw in Dallas. The only difference is that in Dallas, Parcells forced crappy defenses down Zimmer's throat and made Zimmer into the fall guy; while for the Bears, that was Rivera calling that defense all on his own. Pretty alarming! We can do better at defensive coordinator and now I'm leaning towards Bowles (promote from within).

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[Rack]

Yeah I'm pissed Zimmer is gone from Dallas, that really hurt this team. Rivera's game plan failed miserably!

That's a load of crap. If they even had an AVERAGE QB they win the game.


Their D was on the field all day yet only gave up 22 points. ANd prevented a TD on 5 of 6 attempts in the redzone. That's good defense.

 

[Catch-22]

That's a load of crap. If they even had an AVERAGE QB they win the game.


Their D was on the field all day yet only gave up 22 points. ANd prevented a TD on 5 of 6 attempts in the redzone. That's good defense.

The fact that their D was on the field all day was a product of poor game planning. They were willing to give the Colts third and short situations and Addai and company ate that up. The Bears had hardly any chance to run enough offensive plays to get in any sort of rhythm.