Romo Flashbacks. Bring in Dalton, it can't hurt

[basel90]

Don't even pretend to think you understand how I think or what I know.

Unless it's a 1-off anomaly, NFL teams need very good QBs to compete for championships. Jones and Co. made a terrible cap mistake by not signing Dak. No team is going to plug in a $2


You aren't smart enough to know what I think or to begin to guess what I understand.

The idea that a franchise QB can be signed for $25M/yr is ignorant. The idea that Dalton is a suitable replacement for Prescott is even more ignorant.

Jones and Co. made the mistake of not signing Prescott. They aren't going to get off the hook by spending less at the QB position now.

Hire a real defensive coordinator, not an ex-offensive coordinator. Don't make your best DE change his stance. Don't change the entire defense in this environment. Such a waste to have a productive offense and exactly zero defensive support.

How smart are you thinking we can pay Dak 35-40 mil , and win a SB without a huge investment on defense ? You do the math , and take in consideration the already guaranteed overpaid players on the roster : DLaw , zeke , jaylon , etc , plus LVE unlikely return . Unless you are only concerned about Dak , If you do the math , your fix won’t work with only changing the defensive coordinator. There is a huge talent deficiency on defense . Keeping Dak is a luxury this team cannot afford . If you are smart , you know that won’t work , ans the proof is that we are already in that boat wirh 5 years of the Dak passing show . The results are not good .

 

[gjkoeppen]

How smart are you thinking we can pay Dak 35-40 mil , and win a SB without a huge investment on defense ? You do the math , and take in consideration the already guaranteed overpaid players on the roster : DLaw , zeke , jaylon , etc , plus LVE unlikely return . Unless you are only concerned about Dak , If you do the math , your fix won’t work with only changing the defensive coordinator. There is a huge talent deficiency on defense . Keeping Dak is a luxury this team cannot afford . If you are smart , you know that won’t work , ans the proof is that we are already in that boat wirh 5 years of the Dak passing show . The results are not good .

Now lets look at another reality. The reality of all the QB's that were thought to be big stars in the NFL that turned out to be busts. These QB's have been taken anywhere from the 1st pick in the draft and any number there after. The Cowboys once had one that was the 2nd pick in the draft, Ryan Leaf.

Now here's another thing the people that say don't pay Prescott because we have to spend everything on defense. They either think and/or imply that whatever money is saved from not paying Prescott the Cowboys will be able to fill EVERY need on defense in just this coming off season. Ya right.

Another thing about those don't pay Prescott is the Cowboys no longer have the offensive line of 2016. One of their anchors Smith has been injury prone the past few seasons and many people won't admit it but he's not the same LT from 2016 either. Martin is still playing well but how many people really think this line is still one of the best. So this line will have to be addressed too. After next season Gallup's contract will be up and ya many of you say that's OK because the Cowboys will just move Lamb out there but then but then who's going to the slot that's as good as Lamb? Oh that's right the Cowboys only have to worry about the defense.

So if the Cowboys spend every saved penny from no Prescott deal and use every draft pick on defense the defense will hopefully better but it's not going to become the 1985 bears or 2012 ravens defense so a top QB won't be needed? Teams that win the Super Bowls have good defenses but also have good QB's. Bus driver QB's only worked when they had that raven defense.

So if the Cowboys go to another QB that could be a bust or just nowhere as good as Prescott is no guarantee that the Cowboys get any closer to the Super Bowl, but having a QB that has proven that he can fight back from a lot of points down just might help.
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[PJTHEDOORS]

How smart are you thinking we can pay Dak 35-40 mil , and win a SB without a huge investment on defense ? You do the math , and take in consideration the already guaranteed overpaid players on the roster : DLaw , zeke , jaylon , etc , plus LVE unlikely return . Unless you are only concerned about Dak , If you do the math , your fix won’t work with only changing the defensive coordinator. There is a huge talent deficiency on defense . Keeping Dak is a luxury this team cannot afford . If you are smart , you know that won’t work , ans the proof is that we are already in that boat wirh 5 years of the Dak passing show . The results are not good .

How is that HUGE investment with DLaw working out?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

How smart are you thinking we can pay Dak 35-40 mil , and win a SB without a huge investment on defense ? You do the math , and take in consideration the already guaranteed overpaid players on the roster : DLaw , zeke , jaylon , etc , plus LVE unlikely return . Unless you are only concerned about Dak , If you do the math , your fix won’t work with only changing the defensive coordinator. There is a huge talent deficiency on defense . Keeping Dak is a luxury this team cannot afford . If you are smart , you know that won’t work , ans the proof is that we are already in that boat wirh 5 years of the Dak passing show . The results are not good .

but you just pointed to the exact problem that's right in front of you...you are missing the forest because of the trees.

its not that there is no money or resources to invest on defense, its that every investment has been bad. so even if we pay a minimum salary to a QB, there is no gaurantee we can get defensive resources that make a difference. we paid Lawrence 20 mill, so there is room on the cap for that kind of money...and have 0.5 sacks in 12 games...imagine if he played close to his contract and had 8 sacks!!! wow can you imagine. we paid Jaylon a 64 mill contract and he is 55th rated LB in the league, imagine if we paid a 64mill contract to a LB and he was top 15...wow imagine that. we have spent picks on defensive side and got nothing but average/bust players in return, where they should be difference makers. Taco, Chidobe, LVE (always injured with history of injuries), Hill, Collins, Jaylon, on and on and on.....we gave up a 6th round pick for quinn, who sucked at rush defense. we signed griffin and so far he sucks. we signed Poe and we all rejoiced, dreamt back to the 2015 season and before and were elated...Poe sucks...McCoy wasn't a saviour....his time had past long ago.......

so its just that we suck at getting defensive players. and our defensive scheme as sucked for years.our defensive coaches have sucked for years.

and just look at Indy. ebberflus was on our staff. we could have promoted him to be co-DC or something like that or make Marinelli a consultant and ebberflus the DC, instead he walk away and we kept marinelli and brought in Richard...who loved to scream on the side line and people loved him...

so no, giving a contract to a QB, is not a precurser not to be able to sign anyone. its about

 

[BourbonBalz]

This just might be the dumbest thread in history. It’s true half of our fanbase has the I.Q. of a cabbage.

 

[pansophy]

Whether it was a confused Cooper, or Dak throwing into coverage......I'd like to see Dalton play. I don't care what numbers Dak has.......W's matter.

Can they also actually play 4 quarters of football instead of only the 4th?

The Cleveland running game looked impressive. Dallas defense concerns isn't only the secondary after that performance.

This team is messier than a soup sandwhich.

You and everyone else in the league would like to see Dalton play. If Dalton is truly a fallback if we don't get a contract done with Dak, then playing Dalton and having him succeed only drives up his price. Our coaches can assess him in practice to see if he is a viable option.

 

[charron]

Are you taking into account the TO points the offense has given up?

So the offense fails because they aren't perfect? The turnovers must stop but the offense still scored enough points to win most games. What did the defense do? absolutely nothing untill cleveland took their foot off the pedal and played conservatively. Were lucky they didn't try for 60 points, cause they easily could have.

 

[erod]

No QB can win with this defense.

I don't care who it is

Mahomes would be at least 3-1 right now.

 

[Direwolf63]

Mahomes would be at least 3-1 right now.

Nope.

Did you see him against the Patriots? They won, but he was no better than anything Dak has done. The Chiefs scored 26 points, including a pick 6.

Now don't get me wrong, I think Mahomes could quit today and be a borderline Hall of Famer. I think he's great. I love watching him play. But there's nothing even HE can do with this train wreck of a defense

 

[Slick]

Build with what?

The money that won't be going to Dak.

 

[Slick]

Lol. This is such a troll thread! Dak sets yet another NFL record & the OP wants to bring in Dalton.
Correction new member. The Giants had the 25th ranked scoring defense, & 27th ranked defense in terms of yards allowed in 2011.

They allowed more ypg than any other Superbowl champ. Not taking away from anything they did in the post season. The post season they were a completely different defense. But that's how most stories go.

Teams catch fire at the right time & their numbers look significantly different than they did in the postseason.

That's what makes football such a great pastime.

When's the last time Dallas caught fire? The Giants were on a roll their last 4 games going into the playoffs and historically, the Cowboys are usually wilting.

 

[Slick]

The offensive line isn't opening holes for Elliott now so what on God's green earth makes you think that by changing to Dalton that this line all of a sudden is going to start making holes? When Dalton was with the bengals he had a better line than he has now and was always close to being one of the most sacked QB's yet you think that Dalton will somehow be better at coming from behind because the defense isn't stopping anyone.
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Its not about Dalton playing better......Its about deciding that Dak is done in Dallas, and parking him and looking at options in a year that has no hope, because the defense is so bad, the offense can't bridge that gap. What is so hard to understand about that?

 

[Slick]

How smart are you thinking we can pay Dak 35-40 mil , and win a SB without a huge investment on defense ? You do the math , and take in consideration the already guaranteed overpaid players on the roster : DLaw , zeke , jaylon , etc , plus LVE unlikely return . Unless you are only concerned about Dak , If you do the math , your fix won’t work with only changing the defensive coordinator. There is a huge talent deficiency on defense . Keeping Dak is a luxury this team cannot afford . If you are smart , you know that won’t work , ans the proof is that we are already in that boat wirh 5 years of the Dak passing show . The results are not good .

Another smart person, who understands.

 

[Slick]

You and everyone else in the league would like to see Dalton play. If Dalton is truly a fallback if we don't get a contract done with Dak, then playing Dalton and having him succeed only drives up his price. Our coaches can assess him in practice to see if he is a viable option.

You think it'll be anywhere near Dak's?

 

[Slick]

This just might be the dumbest thread in history. It’s true half of our fanbase has the I.Q. of a cabbage.

Considering you know nothing about me, and make derogatory statements like that because of a theoretical thread, speaks volumes.

 

[Doomsday101]

Whether it was a confused Cooper, or Dak throwing into coverage......I'd like to see Dalton play. I don't care what numbers Dak has.......W's matter.

Can they also actually play 4 quarters of football instead of only the 4th?

The Cleveland running game looked impressive. Dallas defense concerns isn't only the secondary after that performance.

This team is messier than a soup sandwhich.

Bringing in Dalton does what? Not a damn thing, Cowboys offense is not the issue it is a last ranked defense. You may not care about the numbers I do when my offense is avg 30 points a game, the problem sure as hell is not the offense. Offense should not be expected to score every time they have the ball, defense has to step up and play

 

[Slick]

Bringing in Dalton does what? Not a damn thing, Cowboys offense is not the issue it is a last ranked defense. You may not care about the numbers I do when my offense is avg 30 points a game, the problem sure as hell is not the offense. Offense should not be expected to score every time they have the ball, defense has to step up and play

Did you read the entire thread, or just the first post?

 

[gjkoeppen]

Its not about Dalton playing better......Its about deciding that Dak is done in Dallas, and parking him and looking at options in a year that has no hope, because the defense is so bad, the offense can't bridge that gap. What is so hard to understand about that?

Sorry but intentionally trying to not to win isn't the answer. Besides with the way Prescott has been playing if the Cowboys did that the league could build a case that the Cowboys were intentionally trying to lose for a higher draft pick and take their 1st round or more away. Lastly except for the Prescott haters there would be such a HUGE uproar not just from REAL Cowboys fans but every media outlet, announcer and analysts that NOBODY in the Cowboys organization even in their worst drunken stupor would even consider for even a 1/10 of second of doing that.
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[PJTHEDOORS]

The money that won't be going to Dak.

Just like the money that went to DLaw.

 

[Doomsday101]

Did you read the entire thread, or just the first post?

Yes I did, now tell me how in the hell does playing Dalton help this team? It can't hurt? it can't help. Dak play is not the problem for this team so putting in Dalton does exactly what?