Romo hope or no hope?

[KJJ]

No QB carries an entire team Aikman relied on some of the best OL man who played the game so did Montana and most other great QB they also played with some of the top weapons in the game. Romo needs to do better but a lot of what has taken place during the late season melt down has been way beyond him. As great as Montana was his team was beat by a much less talented QB in Jim McMahon for one simple reason his lineman could not keep the Bears off his butt and when you don't protect your QB it becomes damn hard to win even for the greats of the game

Montana got beat by a much less talented QB because that QB had the greatest defense in the history of the NFL and he had Walter Peyton in the backfield. All McMahon had to do was manage the game much like Dilfer and Johnson did to win their SB's. When you have a GREAT defense you can get by with a less talented QB provided they're not a turnover machine.

 

[NewJCowboy]

If you can land a Ryan, Flacko or Sanchez you won't be going through as many growing pains. Some of these young QB's have hit the ground running and have greatly improved their teams after only one season. When you watch Romo get out played in a big game by a rookie QB like he did against Flacko last season it makes him look hopeless. I'm tired of the excuses that he's still young in his career. He got to learn on the sidelines for 2 years and has been the starter going on 4 years and is pushing 30 years old. The mistakes he's making keep happening every year. It's one brain fart after another with him.

I can't believe that you actually mentioned Sanchez. He as only played 2 games in his career. Can you at least let him play 1 full season before anointing him?

Bottom line is that Romo will be the QB for this team for the foreseeable future. Whether you like it or not.

 

[KJJ]

No QB carries an entire team Aikman relied on some of the best OL man who played the game so did Montana and most other great QB they also played with some of the top weapons in the game. Romo needs to do better but a lot of what has taken place during the late season melt down has been way beyond him. As great as Montana was his team was beat by a much less talented QB in Jim McMahon for one simple reason his lineman could not keep the Bears off his butt and when you don't protect your QB it becomes damn hard to win even for the greats of the game

Aikman had Emmitt Smith in the backfield. During the 90's the Cowboys offense revolved around their running game but Aikman still made plays when he had to. One of the biggest plays in Cowboys history was Aikman's crossing route to Alvin Harper in the 92 NFC title game. The Cowboys were in a huge game in a hostile environment and Aikman made the play that broke the 49ers back. Troy wasn't a turnover machine. He was a smart QB who could make plays under extreme pressure that's why he has 3 SB rings and is in the HOF. As I mentioned in a previous post Jim McMahon had the greatest defense in history on his side and a great runner in Walter Peyton. McMahon didn't have to win that game with his arm. All he had to do was manage it and let his defense take over. Romo doesn't have that luxury with our cr*ppy defense.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I really hope that Romo turns it around. I really hope that he proves me wrong, but I am at the point where I don't believe he will until he proves me otherwise. Mainly, I don't think people realize just how costly, inexcusable and horrendous the last INT was. Mike Mayock on NFLN went thru the entire situation and then analyzed the play and showing why it was such a costly, inexcusable pick. The playcall was a good call as Bob Strum's blog showed, you just needed a QB that understood the situation and obviously he didn't or just didn't care.

Whichever one it is, that's a big problem for a QB that's in his seventh season in the league.

A big part of the problem is that we have a bunch of 'coach killers' on this team. Or as Bill Walsh once said, a bunch of guys that are 'just good enough to get you beat.' Whether that be Flozell or Gurode or Hamlin, etc. Usually teams in the NFL tend to take the personality of their QB. None better shown when NFLN asked Joey Porter who he thought the best QB in the league is and he stated without hesitation, Chad Pennington. That's how many players like to think in the NFL. They are willing to stick by their QB thru thick and thin, but they also tend to take on the same type of personality. So when your QB is a 'coach killer', it's not insane to think the rest of the team will be a bunch of coach killers.

One of the things I've seen from watching interviews from players from the old 90's dynasty...and this is way before Romo was a problem...is that they greatly respected Aikman because Aikman demanded perfection from himself and his teammates. I laugh at the notion of Romo demanding perfection from himself, thus his teammates don't demand perfection from their play either.

IMO, we really need to start thinking about the future while we still have some stud players (and yes, we have studs like Ware and Ratliff and Felix and Barber, etc). If Romo turns in another year like last season and he fizzles hard come December, do we really think he's going to turn it around? I don't think so and the only reason why I say we should start looking now for a replacement is that:

1. A benching may actually do him good.

2. The 3rd pick was so careless that it came across as a guy that didn't care, which is a huge issue with me. And it should be a huge issue with Garrett, Wade and especially Jerry Jones.

If the Cowboys were to entertain a replacement for Romo, it's best to start now, especially considering this is a favorable looking QB class in the 2010 draft.

My feeling is that Romo will rebound a bit and his apologists will start saying 'SEE! SEE!', but the real test is how he does for the rest of the season. We just simply cannot have him being such a big reason why we lose games.





YAKUZA

 

[KJJ]

I can't believe that you actually mentioned Sanchez. He as only played 2 games in his career. Can you at least let him play 1 full season before anointing him?

Bottom line is that Romo will be the QB for this team for the foreseeable future. Whether you like it or not.

I haven't anointed him but he's looked good. I bet there's alot of fans on this board who would take him over Romo. I know I would! That kid shows tremendous leadership qualities and he has the Jets rallying around. Because of what Jerry paid Romo he will be our QB for awhile but if this season doesn't go well and he melts down again in Dec the Cowboys will start looking for another QB to compete with him. They'll have no choice unless they want to keep coming up short every year.

 

[NewJCowboy]

I haven't anointed him but he's looked good. I bet there's alot of fans on this board who would take him over Romo. I know I would! That kid shows tremendous leadership qualities and he has the Jets rallying around. Because of what Jerry paid Romo he will be our QB for awhile but if this season doesn't go well and he melts down again in Dec the Cowboys will start looking for another QB to compete with him. They'll have no choice unless they want to keep coming up short every year.

I think the Jets are rallying around Rex Ryan and his defense and not their rookie QB. Their defense is carrying that team not the QB play. Also, I bet there are a lot of fans on this board that would laugh at the thought of taking Sanchez over Romo.

 

[KJJ]

I think the Jets are rallying around Rex Ryan and his defense and not their rookie QB. Their defense is carrying that team not the QB play. Also, I bet there are a lot of fans on this board that would laugh at the thought of taking Sanchez over Romo.

Rex Ryan has definitely been a big part of it but nothing rallies a team more than having an exciting young rookie QB. It motivates everyone including the defense. Nothing can change the fate of a team more than a real good QB. Teams have gone from 3-13 to winning SB's in just a few short years after drafting a solid franchise QB. Rex Ryan has brought enthusiasm and Sanchez has given the Jets and their fans as much hope at QB as they've had since the days of Joe Namath. The Jets have had a tough go a QB for alot of years and this kid could be leading that team for the next 12-15 years. His potential and start to this season has got to be exciting for Jets fans. As for the fans who would laugh at the thought of taking Sanchez over Romo sure because boards like this attract alot of homers and Romosexuals who are in love with Romo's production. Their laughs keep turning to tears everytime Romo folds in a big game.

If you criticize Romo for melting down in a big game his apologists will point to all the TD's and 300 yard games he's had. They'll bring up his career passer rating and compare it and his numbers to the Montanas and Elways. Sanchez will certainly hit some bumps this season but from what I've seen of him in college and so far as a pro this kid is a LEADER and is going to be a championship caliber QB. Anytime a rookie QB starts off good and is already showing leadership and is able to elevate the players around them they're headed for a very solid career.

 

[JonJon]

I believe there is hope for Romo. Clearly he has the skills, he just has to have the same focus and confidence week in and week out. The most frustrating thing about Romo is seeing somebody so good perform so bad, sort of like watching a nonchalant Tyson get beat up by Buster Douglas. If he avoid those mental lapses in concentration, there is no stopping him.

 

[btcutter]

Easy!

ROMO BRINGS LOTS OF HOPE!

The reason that we ever are having this discussion is because Romo BRINGS HOPE for us to go far.

It would be easy if there was no hope. Draft a QB next year.

 

[BALCO]

Rex Ryan has definitely been a big part of it but nothing rallies a team more than having an exciting young rookie QB. It motivates everyone including the defense. Nothing can change the fate of a team more than a real good QB. Teams have gone from 3-13 to winning SB's in just a few short years after drafting a solid franchise QB. Rex Ryan has brought enthusiasm and Sanchez has given the Jets and their fans as much hope at QB as they've had since the days of Joe Namath. The Jets have had a tough go a QB for alot of years and this kid could be leading that team for the next 12-15 years. His potential and start to this season has got to be exciting for Jets fans. As for the fans who would laugh at the thought of taking Sanchez over Romo sure because boards like this attract alot of homers and Romosexuals who are in love with Romo's production. Their laughs keep turning to tears everytime Romo folds in a big game.

If you criticize Romo for melting down in a big game his apologists will point to all the TD's and 300 yard games he's had. They'll bring up his career passer rating and compare it and his numbers to the Montanas and Elways. Sanchez will certainly hit some bumps this season but from what I've seen of him in college and so far as a pro this kid is a LEADER and is going to be a championship caliber QB. Anytime a rookie QB starts off good and is already showing leadership and is able to elevate the players around them they're headed for a very solid career.

Ever heard of Ryan Leaf...won his first 2 games in the league too and everyone was riding his jock the same way you are riding Sanchez. You don't have a clue how Sanchez will be as an NFL QB.

 

[KJJ]

Ever heard of Ryan Leaf...won his first 2 games in the league too and everyone was riding his jock the same way you are riding Sanchez. You don't have a clue how Sanchez will be as an NFL QB.

You have no clue if you're comparing Sanchez with Ryan Leaf. LOL Ryan Leaf was nothing but an immature head case. Sanchez is one of the most mature young QB's I've listened to. You won't be seeing him yelling at reporters and starting trouble when he hits a few bumps. The kid has alot of talent and a very good head on his shoulders...get real! His college career and his current start in the NFL gives you a real good clue what kind of QB he will be.

 

[BALCO]

You have no clue if you're comparing Sanchez with Ryan Leaf. LOL Ryan Leaf was nothing but an immature head case. Sanchez is one of the most mature young QB's I've listened to. You won't be seeing him yelling at reporters and starting trouble when he hits a few bumps. The kid has alot of talent and a very good head on his shoulders...get real! His college career and his current start in the NFL gives you a real good clue what kind of QB he will be.

I think Jerry should hire you and your crystal ball as our new GM. Sorry buddy, you have know clue how Sanchez's career is going to end up and certainly can't judge that by what ESPN tells you. I'm sure you think Tim Tebow will be the next Johnny Unitas.[FONT=arial,helvetica][/FONT]

 

[jeff]

KJJ has done an excellent job of making the points against Romo. I wish I could disagree with him, but I don't. This isn't one or two big games, it's become a pattern now.

Every year I hoped he'd step up his game a notch, but in the clutch, it's the same old Tony. And he's pushing 30, so this is about as good as it gets for him.

Keep making up excuses and hoping for the best, but he's going to break your heart in the end. Anyway, I hope he proves me wrong, but I'm not counting on it.

 

[KJJ]

I think Jerry should hire you and your crystal ball as our new GM. Sorry buddy, you have know clue how Sanchez's career is going to end up and certainly can't judge that by what ESPN tells you. I'm sure you think Tim Tebow will be the next Johnny Unitas.[FONT=arial,helvetica][/FONT]

You're telling me you don't think Sanchez has a promising career ahead of him? Romo was just trying to stay off the practice squad his rookie year. Sanchez has already shown more leadership in 2 games than I've seen from Romo in 4 years. Romo's been too busy enjoying his celebrity to care about the perception fans have of him. He's pretty much said that very thing in interviews. Just go back and listen to his post game comments after we lost to Philly in the season finale last season. He sounded RELIEVED the pressure was off and the season was over. Didn't sound disappointed at all! He was back on the golf course the next day. Garrett even suggested pudgy Tony should lose some weight. I had guys like you coming after me after I praised Ryan and Flacco last year. Those two already have 3 playoff wins between them after their rookie year. All I know is Romo is pushing 30 and the clock is ticking on him. No one knows the future but Sanchez's future looks alot brighter than Romo's. He's getting much better coaching and has the sound of a leader. Sanchez has youth and leadership on his side. As for Tim Tebow if he was anything special he would have came out this year.

 

[wileedog]

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2. The 3rd pick was so careless that it came across as a guy that didn't care,




YAKUZA

You know I agree with you a lot Rich, but this is just complete and total speculation.

Romo said after the game he didn't see the safety. The play was designed to take advantage of the fact that they were running the ball down the Giants throat, and the assumption that on the play action the safeties would be crashing the line.

I get it that it was a bad play that Romo didn't find the safety before the snap, but for whatever reason he didn't see him and then before he threw the ball Phillips was obscured from his view.

This wasn't a QB tossing a ball into double coverage because he "didn't care", he just missed a pre-snap read in a game he was already having a lot of trouble in.

Doesn't excuse any of it, but I don't think he was knowingly throwing the ball into double coverage, and every QB misses a safety now and then. It happens.

 

[rkell87]

thats why he wasn't drafted .

stopped reading after that. the most ******** argument you can have for anybody in the league. guess all college walk-ons are scrubs too.

 

[rkell87]

You know I agree with you a lot Rich, but this is just complete and total speculation.

Romo said after the game he didn't see the safety. The play was designed to take advantage of the fact that they were running the ball down the Giants throat, and the assumption that on the play action the safeties would be crashing the line.

I get it that it was a bad play that Romo didn't find the safety before the snap, but for whatever reason he didn't see him and then before he threw the ball Phillips was obscured from his view.

This wasn't a QB tossing a ball into double coverage because he "didn't care", he just missed a pre-snap read in a game he was already having a lot of trouble in.

Doesn't excuse any of it, but I don't think he was knowingly throwing the ball into double coverage, and every QB misses a safety now and then. It happens.

this is excactly what i was trying to tell somebody yesterday, all QB's miss a safety like tony did i fault him but give slack cause it happens and wouldn't even be a big deal today if he didn't already throw that int on the coverage shift and it wouldn't have even been that bad if the foot int and the felix fumble hadnt already happened

 

[Yakuza Rich]

You know I agree with you a lot Rich, but this is just complete and total speculation.

Romo said after the game he didn't see the safety. The play was designed to take advantage of the fact that they were running the ball down the Giants throat, and the assumption that on the play action the safeties would be crashing the line.

I get it that it was a bad play that Romo didn't find the safety before the snap, but for whatever reason he didn't see him and then before he threw the ball Phillips was obscured from his view.

This wasn't a QB tossing a ball into double coverage because he "didn't care", he just missed a pre-snap read in a game he was already having a lot of trouble in.

Doesn't excuse any of it, but I don't think he was knowingly throwing the ball into double coverage, and every QB misses a safety now and then. It happens.

You're right, it's speculation...but, I find it extremely hard to believe that he couldn't see the safety. On a deep Play Action pass like that the QB must locate the deep safety on the pre-snap read. If Romo couldn't see the safety, who was 17 yards off the line of scrimmage playing what looked like a Cover 1 or a Cover 3 and he had to be starting right at him.

Romo makes the playfake and again, his job is to locate the deep safety and I'm really not sure why he couldn't as it wasn't an exotic coverage scheme.

I think if he can't see that safety than that's a huge issue.

I believe what really happened was Romo wanted to make the big play and he was faced with the choice of trying to make the throw when Hurd was covered or just throwing it away and he chose the former.







YAKUZA

 

[Avaj]

I have agree with OP

It is getting to the point, we don't know which Romo is going to show on Sunday. It is like we have to take a deep breath to wait and see if its the Romo with all the stats & numbers or the Romo that has his face buried in his hands.

 

[wileedog]

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Romo makes the playfake and again, his job is to locate the deep safety and I'm really not sure why he couldn't as it wasn't an exotic coverage scheme.

YAKUZA

OK, so to match your speculation, I think Romo knew the playcall was designed to fake the handoff and freeze up the safeties.

After two terrible picks, its human nature to want to make up for it, and when Romo looked up from the play fake he sees Hurd streaking past the corner and doesn't see the safety.

I agree it was careless to not locate the safety before releasing, but we are talking about a split second decision and a guy having an awful game and knowing it. He saw an open WR, knew the play had been designed to clear the safeties, and fired.

Again, not an excuse, I just think its completely different if he knows the safety is there and heaves it anyway. And there are no shortage of QBs who have done that.

Honestly the first interception was far worse to me. When he saw the Giants audible out of their defense he should have called time out or threw it away. He took a total chance that Roy would read his mind on what to do.