Romo hope or no hope?

[KJJ]

stopped reading after that. the most ******** argument you can have for anybody in the league. guess all college walk-ons are scrubs too.

Dude we're talking the NFL not college football. Guys can easily walk on to a college team and have great success. Most college players never make it in the NFL and alot of highly touted college players turn into busts. The fact is there's been VERY few undrafted free agent QB's who've had success in the NFL. There's been Joe Kapp, Kurt Warner, Warren Moon, Jake Delhomme and Tony Romo. Warner is the only one who's won a SB and he's been a big game QB ever since he got his chance to start with the Rams. He puts up big numbers in BIG games. Just look at his passing yardage in the SB's he's played in.

 

[KJJ]

stopped reading after that. the most ******** argument you can have for anybody in the league. guess all college walk-ons are scrubs too.

Why do you think Romo wasn't drafted? He wasn't drafted because he came from a division AA school and had a history of making big mistakes and turning the ball over. He could make big plays and turn around and make a big mistake. We've been seeing that ever since he became the starter. His turnovers have increased every year especially in Dec. He turns the ball over more in Dec than any other month. His numbers go completely in the tank in Dec. It's a tale of two QB's with Romo. Sept-Nov=great Tony and Dec-Jan= terrible Tony.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I still have hope for Romo...

The season is still too early...

but Romo still needs to learn to make better decisions........

I have hope for Romo too.

Yes it is early. It can get better.


My concern: Just before the season, all the articles and interviews about Romo and how he has learned to take care of the ball and not to take chances and throw INT's.

Nothing has changed with him................. yet?!

 

[rkell87]

Dude we're talking the NFL not college football. Guys can easily walk on to a college team and have great success. Most college players never make it in the NFL and alot of highly touted college players turn into busts. The fact is there's been VERY few undrafted free agent QB's who've had success in the NFL. There's been Joe Kapp, Kurt Warner, Warren Moon, Jake Delhomme and Tony Romo. Warner is the only one who's won a SB and he's been a big game QB ever since he got his chance to start with the Rams. He puts up big numbers in BIG games. Just look at his passing yardage in the SB's he's played in.

wouldnt say easy.

ok?


so he has had sucess now? didnt get that from your post.

so it can be done! who knew?

 

[rkell87]

Why do you think Romo wasn't drafted? He wasn't drafted because he came from a division AA school and had a history of making big mistakes and turning the ball over. He could make big plays and turn around and make a big mistake. We've been seeing that ever since he became the starter. His turnovers have increased every year especially in Dec. He turns the ball over more in Dec than any other month. His numbers go completely in the tank in Dec. It's a tale of two QB's with Romo. Sept-Nov=great Tony and Dec-Jan= terrible Tony.

prolly more he came from AA

cant dispute dec stats but its not like oh man its dec now he will suck thats obviously not the case or other wise everybody wouldnt be talking about how bad he sucks now

 

[RS12]

Hope. Somebody has to be the next Kurt Warner.

 

[LucaBrasi]

hope - he can keep the Cowboys competitive

No hope to win a championship

 

[rangers71]

I hate to negative but sometimes you just have to call it the way you see it no matter how painful it is to come to grips with. I can't see the Cowboys ever winning a Super Bowl with Tony Romo as their QB. We found out Sunday night dumping TO certainly hasn't made him a better QB or a better leader. Leaders are born not made everyone knows that. If Jerry wanted to dump someone for the betterment of the team he should have dumped the fat guy on the sidelines who can't coach worth a lick and has softened his team. Romo proved once again he is what he is a CHOKER! It's sad but true. The bigger the game and the more hype it has the worst Romo plays. The guy folds like a cheap suit everytime a game has great significance. It's been a trend with him ever since he fumbled that snap against Seattle in the playoffs in 06. The most discouraging thing is his big game meltdowns have gotten worse each year. You can always tell how important and game is and how much it means to Romo by the number of turnovers he has. There's no possible way a team can win a championship with a QB who consistently folds in big games. I can't think of any QB I've ever seen who could put up the numbers Romo does in less critical games and completely implode in games that have great importance. He simply can not handle the pressure of a big game. As bad as the defense has looked so far every game is going to come down to Romo having to make plays for the Cowboys to win. This has been the case ever since he became the starter. Even though we ran all over the Giants Sunday night the game still came down to Romo having to make plays. The Cowboys are going to live and die with his arm and that doesn't sound real Romo friendly.

Right now our D can't get a sack or a turnover or cover receivers. Good luck making the playoffs with a soft defense like that and a turnover machine at QB. Right now I'm not so sure our defense could even get a turnover against Romo. lol I could never invasion Romo pulling off what Eli and Rothlisberger did to win their championships. What we're seeing with Romo has been his history that's why he wasn't drafted and why the Cowboys have struggled in Dec. He can throw 4 TD passes one week for over 300 yards then turn around in a big game and turn the ball over 6 times with barely 150 yards. Last year against the Ravens in the last game at Texas Stadium Flacco a rookie outplayed him in a big game. Romo has alot of talent but he simply doesn't have what it takes between the ears to get it done when it really matters. He's never going to be Joe Montana or Roger Staubach. He wasn't blessed with that God given ability to rise to the occasion and play his best games in the games that matter most. The monkey on his back has got to be the size of King Kong. It put on another 20 lbs Sunday night. I can tell by Romo's post game comments that there's alot of self doubt going on in his head. When bad things start happening to player or a team it snow balls. This hump the Cowboys are trying to get over has turned into a mountain with some treacherous peaks. When and if the Cowboys ever win another SB It won't be with Tony Romo. I think that will become very clear to even the biggest homers and optimists after this Dec.

Alright Mr. Wizard go ahead and tell me what you would do if you were in charge? What changes at qb would you make?

 

[rkell87]

Alright Mr. Wizard go ahead and tell me what you would do if you were in charge? What changes at qb would you make?

in for the answer

 

[Beast_from_East]

If you can land a Ryan, Flacko or Sanchez you won't be going through as many growing pains. Some of these young QB's have hit the ground running and have greatly improved their teams after only one season. When you watch Romo get out played in a big game by a rookie QB like he did against Flacko last season it makes him look hopeless. I'm tired of the excuses that he's still young in his career. He got to learn on the sidelines for 2 years and has been the starter going on 4 years and is pushing 30 years old. The mistakes he's making keep happening every year. It's one brain fart after another with him.

For every Matt Ryan or Joe Flacko there is also a Ryan Leaf, a Jeff George, a David Klinger, ect.....

Something to think about.

 

[KJJ]

For every Matt Ryan or Joe Flacko there is also a Ryan Leaf, a Jeff George, a David Klinger, ect.....

Something to think about.

Everyone knows the draft is a cr*pshoot especially when drafting a QB but the higher you pick one the better the odds you're going to land a good one. The odds on a drafted QB becoming a solid starter in the NFL is less than 50-50 but you have to roll the dice. The Cowboys drafted both Aikman and Walsh in 89 to make sure they hit on one of them. We all wish God could reach down and inject some ice water in Romo's veins. The only way he's ever going to conquer all the demons that are running around in his head during big games and get over this high hurdle is to go out and win one with his arm. It's when he proves to himself he can get done when it matters most that the tide will turn. Romo's problems are all mental not physical. The mind controls the body. He has to eliminate these impulse throws or his career will be marred by failure.

 

[zrinkill]

Alright Mr. Wizard go ahead and tell me what you would do if you were in charge? What changes at qb would you make?

He will just say he would have done something 4 years ago different ..... thats their usual comeback.

 

[KJJ]

Alright Mr. Wizard go ahead and tell me what you would do if you were in charge? What changes at qb would you make?

If I was in charge I would be tough on Romo just like Parcells was. Romo threw close to hundred straight passes without an INT in 06 after taking over for Bledsoe. Parcells detested turnovers. It was turnovers that caused him to bench Bledsoe in favor of Romo. Although the game had passed Parcells by I thought he did a wonderful job keeping Romo in check. Had he stuck around I don't think we would be seeing these monumental meltdowns by Romo because he would not tolerate the number of turnovers Romo has been committing. His turnovers have increased since 06 especially the fumbles. He began getting more and more careless after Parcells left. The coaching is one of the main reasons he's not improving. No way should he be turning the ball over more now than when he first took over. He's not improving he's regressing. Wade never even looks at Romo after a boneheaded turnover. I would be in Romo's face! I would make it VERY CLEAR that he has to eliminate the bad decision impulse throws or eventually he's going to end up on the sidelines carrying a clipboard again. There's no way you can win important games when you have a QB giving points up the other way. You have a better chance of winning a big game with a less talented QB who doesn't turn the ball over and makes good decisions then you do with a gunslinger who can pass for 350 yards but gives you 3 turnovers.

If Romo were to suffer another Dec meltdown I would go out and try and find a QB to compete with him in camp next year who could push him. When the Chargers drafted Rivers all of a sudden Brees went from being a struggling QB to one of the best passers in the league. When a QB feels their job is being threatened it motivates them. A message has to be sent to Romo that the team is becoming impatient. Only the Bengals have gone longer without a playoff win than the Cowboys. I wish I could have a season with Romo to get inside his head and try and straighten him out. The talent is there it's all mental with him. That punt he lofted in the direction of Hurd on Sunday night was a DREADFUL decision. It looked just like the gift he floated to Ed Reed last season. It's those dreaded "heaves" into coverage that have benched many a QB through the years. It's those kind of dumb*ss throws that's going to eventually kill Romo's career. All Wade does when Romo screws up is turn the other cheek and have his back. The biggest problem fixing Romo is his bad habits are ingrained. He needs a SOLID coach to work with who won't tolerate his mistakes not some cupcake who says he's doing fine all the time. The entire team needs a kick in the *ss.

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

Hope. Still glad he's our QB.

 

[Doomsday101]

If I was in charge I would be tough on Romo just like Parcells was. Romo threw close to hundred straight passes without an INT in 06 after taking over for Bledsoe. Parcells detested turnovers. It was turnovers that caused him to bench Bledsoe in favor of Romo. Although the game had passed Parcells by I thought he did a wonderful job keeping Romo in check. Had he stuck around I don't think we would be seeing these monumental meltdowns by Romo because he would not tolerate the number of turnovers Romo has been committing. His turnovers have increased since 06 especially the fumbles. He began getting more and more careless after Parcells left. The coaching is one of the main reasons he's not improving. No way should he be turning the ball over more now than when he first took over. He's not improving he's regressing. Wade never even looks at Romo after a boneheaded turnover. I would be in Romo's face! I would make it VERY CLEAR that he has to eliminate the bad decision impulse throws or eventually he's going to end up on the sidelines carrying a clipboard again. There's no way you can win important games when you have a QB giving points up the other way. You have a better chance of winning a big game with a less talented QB who doesn't turn the ball over and makes good decisions then you do with a gunslinger who can pass for 350 yards but gives you 3 turnovers.

If Romo were to suffer another Dec meltdown I would go out and try and find a QB to compete with him in camp next year who could push him. When the Chargers drafted Rivers all of a sudden Brees went from being a struggling QB to one of the best passers in the league. When a QB feels their job is being threatened it motivates them. A message has to be sent to Romo that the team is becoming impatient. Only the Bengals have gone longer without a playoff win than the Cowboys. I wish I could have a season with Romo to get inside his head and try and straighten him out. The talent is there it's all mental with him. That punt he lofted in the direction of Hurd on Sunday night was a DREADFUL decision. It looked just like the gift he floated to Ed Reed last season. It's those dreaded "heaves" into coverage that have benched many a QB through the years. It's those kind of dumb*ss throws that's going to eventually kill Romo's career. All Wade does when Romo screws up is turn the other cheek and have his back. The biggest problem fixing Romo is his bad habits are ingrained. He needs a SOLID coach to work with who won't tolerate his mistakes not some cupcake who says he's doing fine all the time. The entire team needs a kick in the *ss.

Yeah Vinny was great threw more ints yet BP never threw Vinny under the bus or berate him to the media nor did he do that with Bledsoe. What ever you may think of Wade fact is most coaches not Even BP is going to rip the QB to the media so this non sense of turning his back is pure non sense

 

[KJJ]

Yeah Vinny was great threw more ints yet BP never threw Vinny under the bus or berate him to the media nor did he do that with Bledsoe. What ever you may think of Wade fact is most coaches not Even BP is going to rip the QB to the media so this non sense of turning his back is pure non sense

Try reading my post I never said anything about ripping him in the media or throwing him under the bus. When Parcells was coaching he got in the face of some of his QB's after bone headed throws. Him and Phil Simms use to go at it all the time. Simms was a bonehead early in his career and ended up having one of the best SB performances of any QB and he owes it all to the tough love Parcells gave him.

 

[Doomsday101]

Try reading my post I never said anything about ripping him in the media or throwing him under the bus. When Parcells was coaching he got in the face of some of his QB's after bone headed throws. Him and Phil Simms use to go at it all the time. Simms was a bonehead early in his career and ended up having one of the best SB performances of any QB and he owes it all to the tough love Parcells gave him.

He got into Phil Simms face because Phil would stand there and argue with Parcells. Parcells never did that to Vinny or Drew because Vinny and Drew kept there mouth shut while Phil Simms wouldn't. I watched the battles live between BP and Phil the simple fact is Phil would not back down from Parcells

 

[DallasDomination]

I can respect your opinion thread starter. I have been right the door steps of this very same thought many times. But for some reason I always find myself having hope again. He's a good Qb and just has some mental breakdowns or something when the big time pressure is on.

There is hope...there's always hope.

 

[KJJ]

He got into Phil Simms face because Phil would stand there and argue with Parcells. Parcells never did that to Vinny or Drew because Vinny and Drew kept there mouth shut while Phil Simms wouldn't. I watched the battles live between BP and Phil the simple fact is Phil would not back down from Parcells

Phil didn't back down that's one of the reasons he's the only one of those 3 QB's Parcells had that went on to win a SB.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

"Getting in his face" wasn't what Parcells did that kept Romo's turnovers down. It was calling safer plays that didn't even give him the option of some of these bonehead throws. That's why some of us are mad at Red Jesus for not helping him more in that department.

And wow, that Rivers must be some player. He's still pushing Brees to be great even three years later in a city a thousand miles away.