Romo trade compensation (per Schefter)

[xwalker]

Exactly. What is more valuable to this team -- a Pro Bowl QB like Romo, either as the starter or backup, or another third or fourth rounder? The answer is easy to me, although I don't think Romo will play along if he is not given a chance to compete for the starting job. I mean, the guy is a top-five QB -- it can be argued that he's fragile or whatever, but a top-five QB nonetheless. There is no earthly way I give him up for a mid-rounder, that's just *****' moronic. Best insurance clause in the game is worth far more than that.

The 14M in cap space gets you a lot more than a 4th rounder.

Also, Sam Bradford fetched a 1st round pick. Yes he is younger, but is not as good as Romo and has had plenty of injury issues as well.

The 14M pays for most of a top notch free agent DE or WR.

 

[cowboys2233]

If Romo does not play this year, then his last significant playing time would date back to the end of 2014. The 2017 season is a long way away from the end of 2014.

Having a starting QB on his rookie contract is a great bonus in terms of managing the salary cap assuming the the backup is not paid like starter. Keeping Romo at full salary causes them to lose a year of savings offf of Dak's contract.

If somebody offers a draft pick for Romo, then they would be both wasting cap space and losing out on a draft pick.

But in return, they would have a nearly surefire guarantee that they're competing for a SB next year too. Dunno, it's a lot of money but those guarantees are worth it in my mind. Romo vs. another third rounder (at best) -- just doesn't seem like we're getting equal value at all, given the aforementioned guarantee he would provide us.

 

[cowboys2233]

The 14M in cap space gets you a lot more than a 4th rounder.

Also, Sam Bradford fetched a 1st round pick. Yes he is younger, but is not as good as Romo and has had plenty of injury issues as well.

The 14M pays for most of a top notch free agent DE or WR.

If we're talking about another first rounder, then I think we can start to entertain the idea. I have no earthly idea how Bradford commanded a first rounder. Not turning out too well for them at this point.

 

[Sydla]

I think any statements about his trade value now should be take. With a grain of salt. Let's see what it is in March.

I doubt it gets much better in March.

People keep pointing to the Bradford deal. But that was a deal cut a week before the season was to start where a team in Minny believed they had a SB caliber team and basically panicked when they lost Bridgewater.

So maybe you get a #1 for Romo is the exact same scenario plays out but that seems like a real longshot.

 

[xwalker]

If we're talking about another first rounder, then I think we can start to entertain the idea. I have no earthly idea how Bradford commanded a first rounder. Not turning out too well for them at this point.

Even a 2nd round pick would be too much to turn down considering how much cap space they gain.

 

[gmoney112]

There are just so many variables at stake right now it's impossible to tell.

 

[xwalker]

But in return, they would have a nearly surefire guarantee that they're competing for a SB next year too. Dunno, it's a lot of money but those guarantees are worth it in my mind. Romo vs. another third rounder (at best) -- just doesn't seem like we're getting equal value at all, given the aforementioned guarantee he would provide us.

How much of a guarantee is it? He is a high probability to get injured and he level of play is unlikely to be where it was 3 years ago without playing.

 

[cowboys2233]

Even a 2nd round pick would be too much to turn down considering how much cap space they gain.

Are we really in a bad enough cap situation that we can't afford to keep two high-level QBs at around $14.5 million?

 

[LatinMind]

Was on the Lebatard show yesterday and said he would go for a conditional fourth round pick with aescalator to a third if the new team makes the playoffs. Said comp would be lower because Jones would let him choose his team.

shefter dont know anymore then the avg fan on what Romo would get. If he asked anybody in the nfl they would give him a low number just to get it out there. JUst like when they asked Jerry bout Romos future he said he sees Romos future in Dallas. It would be idiocy to think Romo would only get a conditional 4th. Even with his injury history.

 

[xwalker]

Are we really in a bad enough cap situation that we can't afford to keep two high-level QBs at around $14.5 million?

Any cap question like that is never straight forward. The Cowboys could sign just about any free agent in any given year and fit it under that years cap; however, the long term ramifications are difficult for fans/media to calculate. The Cowboys have to plan to re-sign the key players over the next few years. If that 14M basically gets pushed down the road into future years then if will affect those future re-signings.

From a fan/media perspective is it best to just consider the straight trade-offs. If they save 14M then they are much more likely to use it on a free agent at another position. The Cowboys could get another #1 type WR for 14M or pay most of the contract of a top DE or CB.

The great thing it that they don't have to decide now. They can wait until the end of training camp to decide or make decisions as trade offers come along. They don't have to force the trade issue and could carry Romo if they decide that it's the best option. They could even keep him and trade him after the season starts if another teams starter goes down.

It's a good situation to be in and much better than the alternative of spending years looking for his replacement like they did after Aikman.

The ideal situation would be to find a Dak clone to backup Dak in the 2017 draft. It is a big benefit when the #2 QB is also a developing player instead of having an old backup and a 3rd developmental QB. The value of an extra roster spot for a full season is significant. There are players starting in the league that the Cowboys cut due to lack of roster spots. One of the Vikings starting Safeties for example.

 

[Nightman]

Good example with the Seahawks and Wilson.

It really isn't..........the Seahawks didn't plan on Wilson and Sherman....they just drafted well because Carroll was fresh out of the college world like JJohnson was...their D was the result of great drafting and some timely cheap DEs

But they wasted a ton of resources on Matt Flynn, Sidney Rice and Percy Harvin....picks and money......they weren't good because they saved money on Wilson....they were good because Lynch was awesome, Wilson was awesome and the D was awesome.....led by Sherman, Wagner, Kam, EThomas, BIrvin, Browner, Avril.......etc

 

[MRV52]

Romo saga is far from over. He will be on the team next year and starting.

 

[rynochop]

Sorry for the Dak boys but Tony is most likely taking over soon, but Dak needs to sit behind a vet and get his accuracy down, that's very concerning long term, and I don't mean two weeks from now

 

[xwalker]

It really isn't..........the Seahawks didn't plan on Wilson and Sherman....they just drafted well because Carroll was fresh out of the college world like JJohnson was...their D was the result of great drafting and some timely cheap DEs

But they wasted a ton of resources on Matt Flynn, Sidney Rice and Percy Harvin....picks and money......they weren't good because they saved money on Wilson....they were good because Lynch was awesome, Wilson was awesome and the D was awesome.....led by Sherman, Wagner, Kam, EThomas, BIrvin, Browner, Avril.......etc

I get that initially, but they were able to keep it together in ensuing years in part because they were not paying much for Wilson. They had to pay DE Bennett and some others.

 

[manster4ever]

I"d rather keep him as well. We don't know for SURE that Dak is the guy. We strongly suspect and hope he is but....we'll find out the next 3 games plus the playoffs. It's a business for crissakes: I like Tony but he's made a TON of money sitting on the bench and on IR the last few years. I wouldn't feel guilty in the slightest keeping him in '17.

 

[T-RO]

Was on the Lebatard show yesterday and said he would go for a conditional fourth round pick with an escalator to a third if the new team makes the playoffs. Said comp would be lower because Jones would let him choose his team.

Exactly what I said a month ago.
-TRO

 

[T-RO]

The Cowboys need to act as if they plan to keep Romo for 2017. That will improve his trade value.

I don't think that opposing GM s will be faked out by play action pass play in this case. Our cap situation combined with everything else makes a trade pretty darn likely.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

a 4th conditional to possibly 3rd isnt bad considering we'll be purposefully taking less to let tony go where he wants.

he'd prob bring a 2nd in a bidding war, but thats not how tony is going to be leaving.

 

[vaturkey]

Always makes me wonder how someone like Tom Brady is 39 and plans on playing until he is 45 and we want to throw Romo to the curb when he is 36. Think Drew Bree's is 36 also. Guess the needs to be shown the door as well. Bottom line is if Romo can start figuring how to give up on a play quickly instead of trying to act like he's 26 again, he has the brains, arm and vision to be a top flight QB. I'd like us to hang on to him if we possibly can.

 

[RandyOh]

Lynch will never be ready if Denver goes with Romo next season. They're not going to give up a #1 or #2 for a stopgap for a year or two and hinder the progress of their two young QBs. How is Lynch going to progress sitting behind Romo? Denver gave up a #1 and #3 for Lynch so you can FORGET Denver forking over a #1 or #2 for Romo. When Denver went after Manning he was a free agent and they had no QB. They were willing to take a huge gamble but that's not the case now with the potential Lynch has. Plus you have to consider the money Romo is making. Denver allowed Osweiler to get away due to money.

I'm not saying Romo won't end up in Denver but if you're going to put your money on a team I would put it on AZ. They brought in Kurt Warner years ago who led them to a SB. They brought Carson Palmer in four years ago and have had some success with him. He appears to have worn out his welcome and Romo would be a great fit considering AZ has a lot of pieces, they just lack consistent QB play.

Denver has a team built. They know they have a championship roster. They just need a QB. It's why they made the trade to move up for Lynch. He's not ready to play. He's playing behind a 7th round QB. Now we are starting a 4th round QB but he didn't lose his starting job to the UDFA in pre season. But It doesn't matter if they spent a 1st and 3rd on A QB. All It shows is that they are willing to put the required resources into the position. Also they had no idea a Pro Bowl level QB would all of a sudden become available. I'm not saying we are guaranteed a 1st round pick but a 2nd round pick is not out of the question and a 1st is not impossible. Especially if they want to keep him from free agency. Broncos are not the only team with a great roster built in need of a QB.