Romo will be in the ROH

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,......ROH should be for all time great Cowboy players who player the majority of their career in the cowboy uniform, not a player that spent most of his career with the niners...where he won his first two rings..
Depends on how you look at it. I don't see Dallas winning those SBs without Haley joining the team. He got more rings here, than there.
 

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Aikman was the epitome of a game manager who would be considered a middling QB today if not for the Walker trade. Facts.


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First off, you used winning championships as a way of getting into the ROH. Now you are setting a different standard for Witten....

Make up your mind. I don't know what you consider to be "not even close" - when even adjusting for eras, statistically, Romo is top 10-15. EVEN IF Romo falls within top 50 all time for QBs or below that, that's still very freakin' high with how many QBs have started and left this league.

We aren't talking HOF here, we are talking ROH. He was a 10 year starter, set multiple records, has better stats than the legendary QBs that played for the cowboys when adjusted....

He's going in the ROH and you can send him a cup of your tears when he's inducted. Shed them tears, boy.


There's only one player on the field where every offensive play start in his hands....Quarterbacks are usually judged by championships, not a long empty stat careers with two playoff wins, unless you're an all time great like Dan Marino.....Don't compare stats in different era's .Merideth played on garbage teams for most of his career and was the first QB to lead this organization to a winning record and put this team on the map, he was ten times the quarterback than Romo..Romo was a feel good story as an undrafted QB and had a long career, but it was his mistakes/turnovers that cost this team more than not in games, how many week seventeen win and your in choke games did he play, never mind the playoff debacles??? I'm not taking anything away from his ability to make plays but nobody would consider him anymore than a second tier quarterback in his era, other than cowboy fans..
 

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Awesome, totally deserved. When I look back over the last 30 years of watching the Cowboys (where I was old enough to understand what I was watching) the two images that pop in my mind as the "face of the organization" are Tony Romo and Emmitt Smith. To me they both epitomize what you want a football player representing your organization to be. There are plenty of other players that fit that criteria, but those are always the first two to pop in my mind.
 

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Stop speaking in meme and make an argument.

Show me a good season that came from Aikman when he didn't have a ton of talent surrounding him. I'll wait.
You obviously, never watched him play. Anyone that watched him play, would not call him a game manager and certainly not with as much disdain as you have.
 

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You would think a key player on the best defense this team ever had, the franchise leader in sacks in a rookie year, sacks in a season, all time sack leader until Ware broke it, Superbowl Co-MVP and NFL DPOY deserves to be in the ROH.

Like it or not. Martin's ongoing substance abuse problems and fueds with the Cowboys hurt his standing with the team. And it's not just on Jerry. The Cowboys had 5 years after Martin's retirement to put him in the ROH before Jerry bought the team, and they chose not to. Once the ROH was created, every player that got in before Jerry bought the team had been enshrined within 4 years of retiring.
 

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There's only one player on the field where every offensive play start in his hands....Quarterbacks are usually judged by championships, not a long empty stat careers with two playoff wins, unless you're an all time great like Dan Marino.....Don't compare stats in different era's .Merideth played on garbage teams for most of his career and was the first QB to lead this organization to a winning record and put this team on the map, he was ten times the quarterback than Romo..Romo was a feel good story as an undrafted QB and had a long career, but it was his mistakes/turnovers that cost this team more than not in games, how many week seventeen win and your in choke games did he play, never mind the playoff debacles??? I'm not taking anything away from his ability to make plays but nobody would consider him anymore than a second tier quarterback in his era, other than cowboy fans..

> QBs are usually judged by championships

I don't care how people "normally" judge them. I expect a solid argument. I'm not even gong to bother the rest of your dribble unless you provide something.

"ring" is not an argument, there is a lot that goes into a game. Eli Manning is a middling QB that got hot twice in his career and got rings, Joe Flacco is a middling to terrible QB 90% of the time, won a ring. Rings are not indicative of even QB play.

This argumetn is boring and pushed by normie fans.
 

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You obviously, never watched him play. Anyone that watched him play, would not call him a game manager and certainly not with as much disdain as you have.

"You never watched him" is not an argument.

One last time, show me a season where Aikman played at a high level when he didn't have ultra talent surrounding him. This should be simple to show if he's such a great player.
 

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Like it or not. Martin's ongoing substance abuse problems and fueds with the Cowboys hurt his standing with the team. And it's not just on Jerry. The Cowboys had 5 years after Martin's retirement to put him in the ROH before Jerry bought the team, and they chose not to. Once the ROH was created, every player that got in before Jerry bought the team had been enshrined within 4 years of retiring.
I know about all the feuds and personal demons and I still don't like it and will never accept that he is not in the ROH. His play on the field speaks for itself.
 

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I guess winning championships isn't important anymore!! So Romo goes in under the participation award....Every since Haley, the rental, Jerry has cheapening the ROH...
Romo excelled while having Jason Garrett as either his OC, HC or both for almost his entire career as the Cowboys’ starting QB (never mind being handicapped by having Jerry Jones as his GM). That alone should qualify him for the ROH.

However, if Garrett himself ever makes the Ring, THEN you can say it’s been cheapened.
 

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There's only one player on the field where every offensive play start in his hands....Quarterbacks are usually judged by championships, not a long empty stat careers with two playoff wins, unless you're an all time great like Dan Marino.....Don't compare stats in different era's .Merideth played on garbage teams for most of his career and was the first QB to lead this organization to a winning record and put this team on the map, he was ten times the quarterback than Romo..Romo was a feel good story as an undrafted QB and had a long career, but it was his mistakes/turnovers that cost this team more than not in games, how many week seventeen win and your in choke games did he play, never mind the playoff debacles??? I'm not taking anything away from his ability to make plays but nobody would consider him anymore than a second tier quarterback in his era, other than cowboy fans..

Well Quest if you don't like it you could always go join Marino for a slice of NutriSystem lasagna. Meanwhile the rest of us will enjoy seeing Romo get the respect he earned and deserves.
 

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Very short sighted on your part. There are plenty of players that felt the Cowboys would not have won their SBs in the 90s without Haley. He was more than a short term rental like Deion.

When you think of Haley, do you think of him as a Cowboy or a niner, be honest with yourself.... I think of him as a Niner, not an all time great Cowboy.......Haley was a cherry on top of a great rotation on the defensive line but he had three good seasons as a cowboy, he was a bit player after that because of his back... that's not an all time Cowboy IMO, great player, HOF. just not an all time great Cowboy which is what the ROH is for..you should play atleast 8 or 9 years as a Cowboy to even qualify..

The fact that Harvey Martin isn't in the ROH is a disgrace!!
 

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There's only one player on the field where every offensive play start in his hands....Quarterbacks are usually judged by championships, not a long empty stat careers with two playoff wins, unless you're an all time great like Dan Marino.....Don't compare stats in different era's .Merideth played on garbage teams for most of his career and was the first QB to lead this organization to a winning record and put this team on the map, he was ten times the quarterback than Romo..Romo was a feel good story as an undrafted QB and had a long career, but it was his mistakes/turnovers that cost this team more than not in games, how many week seventeen win and your in choke games did he play, never mind the playoff debacles??? I'm not taking anything away from his ability to make plays but nobody would consider him anymore than a second tier quarterback in his era, other than cowboy fans..
Quit perpetuating that myth, He cost us games because the overall team sucked and he had to go all gunslinger. Without him this team and fanbase would be begging for 8-8 seasons.
 

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Was never any doubt except from some knuckleheads here...
 

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Romo excelled while having Jason Garrett as either his OC, HC or both for almost his entire career as the Cowboys’ starting QB (never mind being handicapped by having Jerry Jones as his GM). That alone should qualify him for the ROH.

However, if Garrett himself ever makes the Ring, THEN you can say it’s been cheapened.

At this point if Garrett ever leads this team to two consecutive playoff appearances, Jerry might put him in the ROH!
 
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