Romo would've won it

LatinMind

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It's predictable how some who want Orton to be better make him out to be...even saying how good the offense looked.

Let's get to the very simple facts of points scored.

In our home games this year
Under Romo:
36
34
48
31
27
31
36

Under Orton
22

It is not really close
Give us our worst scoring output all year under Romo and we win.

Having said that, I really do think Orton played pretty well.

You want to see how good orton was tonight, then just use your eyes. He made a big mistake at the end of the game. but i saw him make passes that Romo just simply couldnt make at all this yr. More important he managed the game better, taking what the defense gave him and took Dallas on alot of long drives. Dallas had drives of 53, 40, 66, 54, 41, 59, 80. I dare you to go back the whole yr and brin up 1 game that a Romo led offense did that. If Romo played with Ortons patience this team would be in the playoffs.
 

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This thread just misses the point anyway. The qb's are not the problem and we have good ones IMO. We saw Orton step in with what I would assume is a fair amount of rust due to lack of any recent, meaningful game experience. He was able to perform well and very similarly to Romo. A lot of stats being thrown around are fairly misleading anyway. I've seen Romo choke in home games too if we really want to get into that. No one knows what would have happened and it is meaningless anyway.
 

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You want to see how good orton was tonight, then just use your eyes. He made a big mistake at the end of the game. but i saw him make passes that Romo just simply couldnt make at all this yr. More important he managed the game better, taking what the defense gave him and took Dallas on alot of long drives. Dallas had drives of 53, 40, 66, 54, 41, 59, 80. I dare you to go back the whole yr and brin up 1 game that a Romo led offense did that. If Romo played with Ortons patience this team would be in the playoffs.

I liked how Orton played.

I just pointed out the fact that out of 8 home games this year, this was the lowest scoring one...And not all that close. We usually scored 30+ points.
Btw, I didn't look it up, but I suspect the Denver game was pretty good..and with much greater scoring efficiency.

But again, I do agree that Orton and his 85 QB rating was solid enough.
 

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No one can know what would have happened. We have no idea what decisions Romo would or wouldn't have made that may have changed the score for better or for worse. Hell maybe theres a pick six that makes it worse! Who knows. Its kind of a worthless waste of time to ponder, but the truth is the performance wrapped up our team regardless of QB for the past 17 years. Mediocre on the whole.
 

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I liked how Orton played.

I just pointed out the fact that out of 8 home games this year, this was the lowest scoring one...And not all that close. We usually scored 30+ points.
Btw, I didn't look it up, but I suspect the Denver game was pretty good..and with much greater scoring efficiency.

But again, I do agree that Orton and his 85 QB rating was solid enough.

It was low scoring but thats because the defenses played good. Both def made some plays in the middle of the field that stopped drives for both teams. This was just a very good played game.
 

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It was low scoring but thats because the defenses played good. Both def made some plays in the middle of the field that stopped drives for both teams. This was just a very good played game.
I agree.

The other side s that our defense made the other team actually punt several times, so it gave the offense more chances.

In the end though, I think we mostly agree. It was a hard fought game that we came up short in.
 

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I agree.

The other side s that our defense made the other team actually punt several times, so it gave the offense more chances.

In the end though, I think we mostly agree. It was a hard fought game that we came up short in.

Actually, last time we played the Eagles we had 15 total drives and 75 total plays.

This game we had 13 total drives and only 66 total plays.. and yet somehow with our star QB and more chances we only put up 17 total points.

With our backup and less chances, we put up 22. Hmm...
 

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There is no way to tell what would have happened here. Would you get a perfect Romo or a 5 INT Romo? You can't know but there is one thing we absolutely know. Romo was not available and because of this, what is the point of arguing that we would have won? What we should have done is execute the best possible game plan for Orton. I don't think we did that.

Romo has yet to throw for over 2 ints in a game this year, so chances are he wouldn't of thrown 5, especially with how he was playing this year. He hasn't been taking as many deep shots or risks, so I honestly don't see how 5 interceptions is a realistic numbers, honestly he'd have a higher chance throwing for 7-8 touchdowns instead. Though, like you said, Romo wasn't available and this is all just speculation mumbo jumbo that means nothing.
 

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OMG the romo lovers never stop.. For all we know we might have gotten blown out with romo in there. If you want whats best for this franchise for the future pray that romo retires and orton is our starter going into next year.

22 points scored.............lowest point total at home this year.............We scored at least 29 points in every other home game with Romo.


The Romo haters made a bunch of predictions about how much better the team would be without Romo and since that blew up in their face, they are getting called out and laughed at in multiple threads tonight and its is just pure comedy.
 

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Well that may be true for you, but it certainly seemed more organized and like everyone was on the same page to me. Idk, perceptions vary.

yet we scored 12 points less then our average and the least amount of points at home all year.

how is it that you claim we seem more organized, while being the least productive all season at home.

please explain that one for me
 

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Actually, last time we played the Eagles we had 15 total drives and 75 total plays.

This game we had 13 total drives and only 66 total plays.. and yet somehow with our star QB and more chances we only put up 17 total points.

With our backup and less chances, we put up 22. Hmm...

on the road, without Murray and Miles Austin.
 

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The Romo haters must be frothing at the mouth. They cannot blame him for this game but are trying anyway; now suddenly Orton who was beaten out by TIM TEBOW is suddenly better than romo.

Just hilarious


If the D had given this effort in about three of our losses (Bears, Packers, Lions) we would have used this game to rest and already have won the divison. This game showed why the failure this year lays on the DEFENSE.
 

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Romo would have likely won it. Probably would have thrown at least one more TD with no turnovers.
 

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Orton played a great game but missed some big ones... If the defense played the way they did and Romo was at the helm we would have won...

Orton attempted throws we don't see from Romo.
Dez HAS TO catch that ball in end zone.

Orton ends game with int like Romo.

What are we talking about here?
 

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The Romo haters must be frothing at the mouth. They cannot blame him for this game but are trying anyway; now suddenly Orton who was beaten out by TIM TEBOW is suddenly better than romo.

Just hilarious


If the D had given this effort in about three of our losses (Bears, Packers, Lions) we would have used this game to rest and already have won the divison. This game showed why the failure this year lays on the DEFENSE.

This is the problem. For the most part, nobody is disputing that the Defense has failed for most of this year. In fact, most I've seen have gone out of their way to acknowledge this. But what of it? We all know that. We all know that injuries have seriously limited what the Defense can do. We know this so what does that mean? It means that we needed to find other ways to win games. Ways to help the Defense and we really didn't do that very well.
 

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I can't believe people are honestly denying that we likely win and win big with Romo. Sure anything COULD happen, but Romo is light years better than Orton. That game is a blowout with a healthy Romo.
 

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Orton attempted throws we don't see from Romo.
Dez HAS TO catch that ball in end zone.

Orton ends game with int like Romo.

What are we talking about here?

reality which obviously some people refuse to recognize. IF the D and the rest of the team had played t his well we would not have needed to win this game; we would have a 11-5 record at least. The question garret should have to answer is why does it take your starting QB to be out for the team to play this well over all.
 

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Actually, last time we played the Eagles we had 15 total drives and 75 total plays.

This game we had 13 total drives and only 66 total plays.. and yet somehow with our star QB and more chances we only put up 17 total points.

With our backup and less chances, we put up 22. Hmm...

Look how Foles played in that game. The wind was swirling and was not a QB friendly day. We also had Tanner and Randle playing who struggled with blitz protection all game. This was an awful game for you to use as reference, completely different scenarios.
 
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