Romo's throwing motion

Don't forget he sticks his tongue out a bit when throwing which helps his forward balance. :D Romo isn't a robot QB like Brady. His unique style reflects his personality and desire to just get the ball where it needs to be to make a play. Romo impresses me more with every game.
 
DC_Addict;1808147 said:
Don't forget he sticks his tongue out a bit when throwing which helps his forward balance. :D Romo isn't a robot QB like Brady. His unique style reflects his personality and desire to just get the ball where it needs to be to make a play. Romo impresses me more with every game.


You know why he sticks his tongue out right?
It helps relax his jaw, which makes you less tense.

Jordan always did it.
 
CPonder14;1808153 said:
You know why he sticks his tongue out right?
It helps relax his jaw, which makes you less tense.

Jordan always did it.

How interesting, I had never heard that, I noticed that is one of Brett Favres motions to. Tony must have studied a lot and took the best out of all of them. No wonder he is such a delightful mixture of motion.
 
Hostile;1808065 said:
Oh boy, I'll probably regret this.

Why would you regret it? We've been known to disagree on quarterbacks.

No, his motion and mechanics are not better than Aikman's. No his release is not better than Marino's. I don't think his mechanics are what you would necessarily teach a youngster at all as a way to succeed and copy for success. It works for him. I highly doubt it can be replicated.
I think it is. It's all related. And it starts with that moxie, confidence and swagger. From there, he (particularly) has a knack for getting the ball in there. Note his completion percentage.

Sure, his release may or may not be - I don't know - quicker than Marino's. But I'm talking about overall mechanics, and I wasn't referring to pee wee football, or even high school.

His release is very fast. Pretty close to the 90's version of Warner. Marino's release was other-wordly. His release most reminds me of Joe Namath. The ball doesn't explode out of hsi hand like it did Namath, but it leaves in a hurry.
Had Warner kept on pace, he'd have been one of the greatest. But I think Romo is a lot better than Warner if only for his mobility... his release is more dynamic in that he can throw from so many places, and his recognition to release time is a lot faster than Warner... maybe on par with Marino tho definitely not the same.

In his first full year, he's shattered the TD record.

Romo's biggest asset is his 6th sense of the coming pass rush. I've never seen anything like it. He feels the rush coming and escapes. Does it as well as anyone I have ever seen.
I agree. I've been seeing this 6th sense for a while. Like you say, his escaping ability is what really surprised me. I knew he had the ability to move around in there. I wasn't aware of his ability to escape and make a play from virtually anywhere. But I did notice a lot about his awareness. He surprised everyone with how much he can elude defenders.

Sheesh.

I've never seen anything like it either.

His 2nd biggest asset is his attitude. It is easy to see why guys enjoy playing with him, he's having fun. In this case he compares to Favre. Just a big kid out there having a ball.
I agree. It's what you see between the plays and on the sidelines. He's got that personality to be a quarterback--that nervous system that you need. Not to mention he obviously has intellect.

He combines these tools into a unique package that is fun to watch, but I think it's a tragic mistake to say his mechanics are as good as Aikman's, and his release as explosive as Marino's.
I'm saying overall, I'd rather have him on my team right now than either of them. I hate comparisons of Romo to other players. It serves no purpose. And I've been somewhat hypocritical because I've been irked to hear comparisons of Romo to Favre or any QB. He's Tony Romo.

So, yeah, you're right to make comparisons is silly. But I wasn't really saying he reminds me of Marino or Aikman.

When I look at his release, I think that it's in the same ball park--different players entirely, but they're in the same ball park as far as throwing motion, and how that translates on the field as far as results. And in regards to results, I think that Romo has produced quite a bit of those in is first season to get the nod as the starter.

Apologies if I seemed to be making a comparison. Perhaps I was subconsciously. Shame on me. :p

Peace
 
I love Romo's throwing motion. He throws it with his legs, his trunk, and shoulder rotation -- not just his arm -- which is the way to do it because it's a more repeatable motion under pressure.

I can't say he throws it better than Aikman, though. Watching Aikman throw live drills up close in training camp is one of the more amazing things I've ever seen an athlete do. That guy was unbelievable.
 
Ben_n_austin;1808563 said:
Why would you regret it? We've been known to disagree on quarterbacks.
Because when I talk about QB mechanics people do not like it. Sort of like pedigree. If I believe it's important, it isn't important.

:D

I think it is. It's all related. And it starts with that moxie, confidence and swagger. From there, he (particularly) has a knack for getting the ball in there. Note his completion percentage.
Completion % doesn't have to do with mechanics. You can have great mechanics and not be accurate.

Sure, his release may or may not be - I don't know - quicker than Marino's. But I'm talking about overall mechanics, and I wasn't referring to pee wee football, or even high school.
That's the problem, when you talk about mechanics it is about teaching them, and you teach them at an early age.

Had Warner kept on pace, he'd have been one of the greatest. But I think Romo is a lot better than Warner if only for his mobility... his release is more dynamic in that he can throw from so many places, and his recognition to release time is a lot faster than Warner... maybe on par with Marino tho definitely not the same.
Warner never recovered from the Roy Williams induced thumb injury. He's still a decent QB, and I like him. He's nowhere near as likable as Romo. The only people I've ever heard who just flat out dislike Romo do so because of the team he plays for.

In his first full year, he's shattered the TD record.
That's also a product of the system though. Don't overlook that. This offense is designed to score by throwing. I love it. I've wanted this for a long, long time.

I agree. I've been seeing this 6th sense for a while. Like you say, his escaping ability is what really surprised me. I knew he had the ability to move around in there. I wasn't aware of his ability to escape and make a play from virtually anywhere. But I did notice a lot about his awareness. He surprised everyone with how much he can elude defenders.

Sheesh.

I've never seen anything like it either.
The playmaking ability added to the escape ability is the 6th sense to me. Every QB can see the rush, few can feel it. Once they feel it can they do anything about it. Most unload the ball. Some run. This kid simply keeps looking for a play to make. Uncanny.

I agree. It's what you see between the plays and on the sidelines. He's got that personality to be a quarterback--that nervous system that you need. Not to mention he obviously has intellect.
I don't disagree with a word of this. Natural leadership.

I'm saying overall, I'd rather have him on my team right now than either of them. I hate comparisons of Romo to other players. It serves no purpose. And I've been somewhat hypocritical because I've been irked to hear comparisons of Romo to Favre or any QB. He's Tony Romo.

So, yeah, you're right to make comparisons is silly. But I wasn't really saying he reminds me of Marino or Aikman.
Favre is the only comparison I can really make and that is because of his sheer joy at playing the game. It's pretty obvious to me that he doesn't have Favre's canon and Favre doesn't have his 6th sense.

I'm just saying that he isn't mechanically sound like Aikman. Who cares? His release isn't as fast as Marino's. Again, who cares? Marino could never escape like this kid can.

When I look at his release, I think that it's in the same ball park--different players entirely, but they're in the same ball park as far as throwing motion, and how that translates on the field as far as results. And in regards to results, I think that Romo has produced quite a bit of those in is first season to get the nod as the starter.

Apologies if I seemed to be making a comparison. Perhaps I was subconsciously. Shame on me. :p

Peace
Nothing wrong with comparisons. That's how we learn to look at stuff.
 
Chocolate Lab;1808579 said:
I love Romo's throwing motion. He throws it with his legs, his trunk, and shoulder rotation -- not just his arm -- which is the way to do it because it's a more repeatable motion under pressure.

I can't say he throws it better than Aikman, though. Watching Aikman throw live drills up close in training camp is one of the more amazing things I've ever seen an athlete do. That guy was unbelievable.
I agree about the way he throws with his shoulder, hips and legs. It is so quick that you don't even realize he's getting ready to throw until he's thrown. I think this really hurts the defenders because they do not get the warning that the ball is being thrown that they get with QB's who have more of a windup.
 
Seemed like on the deep ball to Austin he still kept his arm down a bit, and still effortlessly tossed it 55 in the air. I've always been curious to how far Romo could throw it in the air in a hail mary situation.
 
THUMPER;1808083 said:
Tony Romo is one of the best QBs I have ever seen play the game and I have seen them all since the early 60s. He may not turn out to be the greatest QB ever (I hope he does) but he is the best at what counts the most.

His qualities include:

Pocket presence - His awareness in the pocket is uncanny and he avoids the pass rush without ever taking his eyes off the receivers downfield. His ability to step up or slide out of the pocket to avoid the rush is the best I've ever seen, even better than Marino's which I have always considered to be the best ever.

Quick release - Again, his release is comparable to Marino's which has always been considered to quickest. He just gets the ball out before the defenders can get to him.

Reading the defense/ going through his progressions - Romo is excellent at reading the defense and finding the open man. Many times he will go through his 3rd or 4th read before getting the ball out to an open man. All this before the pass rush can get to him.

Accuracy - Considering his free style of play and the angles he throws from at times he has excellent accuracy. Not Troy Aikman accuracy but very, very good.

Ability to make plays on the move - He is currently the best in the league at making plays on the move. When he gets outside the pocket he is extremely dangerous as he will find someone open and get the ball to him.

Leadership - The players like and respect Romo. They follow him because they know he is a winner and will do whatever it takes to win the game. Staubach had that same ability and we pulled out a lot of games because of it. Even Owens defers to Romo because he respects him as a leader and a winner. Even after going through a tough stretch at the end of last season the players never lost their trust in Romo. That speaks volumes!


Lots of QBs are 6'5" and have rocket arms, a perfect throwing motion, and were 1st round draft picks but none of them are as good as Tony Romo. Not Carson Palmer, not Ben Roethlisberger, none of them. The measureables that the scouts look for are NOT what makes a great QB. It is the intangibles that, when you add them together, come out with a guy who has it all. Romo & Brady are those type of guys.

Unitas was a late round draft pick (9th round) who was considered too skinny and frail for the NFL. Staubach (10th round) was a great college QB but was considered an inaccurate scrambler and a risk after missing 4 years. Montana (late 3rd round) was a weak-armed guy who was too frail.

On the other hand guys like George Shaw, Gary Glick, King Hill, Randy Duncan, George Izo, Terry Baker, Pete Beathard Steve Spurrier, Jerry Tagge, Steve Pisarkiewicz, Jack Thompson, Marc Wilson, Art Schlichter, Steve Walsh, David Klingler, Heath Shuler, and Tim Couch were all taken as the top QBs of their draft class yet did next to nothing in the NFL. They were all considered by the scouts as the next great QB but they all failed miserably. Many other highly touted QBs had less than stellar careers.

I guess it is because it is so difficult to measure the intangibles, particularly when comparing the college game to the NFL, that there are so many misses. I am just glad that, even though we had to wait 3+ years to see him play, Tony Romo is a Dallas Cowboy! The guys has it all and will continue to break records for a long time to come.

Eli Manning will be added to that list in years to come.
 
If he would cut down on underthrowing those two or three passes every game his game would be darn near perfect...
 
CrazyCowboy;1807990 said:
ROMO has one of the quickest realizes I have seen......he is so much fun to watch.

Sometimes he comes a little side armed with is not good but I would not change a thing about him.

I agree!
 
THUMPER;1808083 said:
Tony Romo is one of the best QBs I have ever seen play the game and I have seen them all since the early 60s. He may not turn out to be the greatest QB ever (I hope he does) but he is the best at what counts the most.

His qualities include:

Pocket presence - His awareness in the pocket is uncanny and he avoids the pass rush without ever taking his eyes off the receivers downfield. His ability to step up or slide out of the pocket to avoid the rush is the best I've ever seen, even better than Marino's which I have always considered to be the best ever.

Quick release - Again, his release is comparable to Marino's which has always been considered to quickest. He just gets the ball out before the defenders can get to him.

Reading the defense/ going through his progressions - Romo is excellent at reading the defense and finding the open man. Many times he will go through his 3rd or 4th read before getting the ball out to an open man. All this before the pass rush can get to him.

Accuracy - Considering his free style of play and the angles he throws from at times he has excellent accuracy. Not Troy Aikman accuracy but very, very good.

Ability to make plays on the move - He is currently the best in the league at making plays on the move. When he gets outside the pocket he is extremely dangerous as he will find someone open and get the ball to him.

Leadership - The players like and respect Romo. They follow him because they know he is a winner and will do whatever it takes to win the game. Staubach had that same ability and we pulled out a lot of games because of it. Even Owens defers to Romo because he respects him as a leader and a winner. Even after going through a tough stretch at the end of last season the players never lost their trust in Romo. That speaks volumes!


Lots of QBs are 6'5" and have rocket arms, a perfect throwing motion, and were 1st round draft picks but none of them are as good as Tony Romo. Not Carson Palmer, not Ben Roethlisberger, none of them. The measureables that the scouts look for are NOT what makes a great QB. It is the intangibles that, when you add them together, come out with a guy who has it all. Romo & Brady are those type of guys.

Unitas was a late round draft pick (9th round) who was considered too skinny and frail for the NFL. Staubach (10th round) was a great college QB but was considered an inaccurate scrambler and a risk after missing 4 years. Montana (late 3rd round) was a weak-armed guy who was too frail.

On the other hand guys like George Shaw, Gary Glick, King Hill, Randy Duncan, George Izo, Terry Baker, Pete Beathard Steve Spurrier, Jerry Tagge, Steve Pisarkiewicz, Jack Thompson, Marc Wilson, Art Schlichter, Steve Walsh, David Klingler, Heath Shuler, and Tim Couch were all taken as the top QBs of their draft class yet did next to nothing in the NFL. They were all considered by the scouts as the next great QB but they all failed miserably. Many other highly touted QBs had less than stellar careers.

I guess it is because it is so difficult to measure the intangibles, particularly when comparing the college game to the NFL, that there are so many misses. I am just glad that, even though we had to wait 3+ years to see him play, Tony Romo is a Dallas Cowboy! The guys has it all and will continue to break records for a long time to come.

Nice post thump totally agree
 
NextGenBoys;1807925 said:
He has bad form. You want to release the ball at a higher point than what Romo does. He kind of slings it out sidearm style, but that is what makes his release so quick, and is one of his best qualities. So, its bad form, but it is a great asset.
His bad form got 33 TD passes.:rolleyes:
 
sago1;1807946 said:
Whatever Romo is doing is very effective. It may not be the most ideal- looking throwing motion, but it sure gets the job down. I've heard/read several people (like former QBs & Madden) state their admiration for his ability to throw from all planes and to anywhere on the field. Same goes for his release, pocket presence, accuracy, etc.

During the Packer game, Collingsworth really liked the play where TO cut off his usual WR in motion jog and immediately headed maybe 10-15 yards into the endzone where Romo immediatley hit him for one of his TDs. Collingsworth later called it a very sophisticated move and was very complimentary about it and about the aplomb with which Romo plays the game. It gave me the feeling that Collingsworth is really impressed with Romo's play (beyond what the average football fan sees) and also how Jason Garrett is running this offense.
Romo, also puts me in the mind of Rich Gannon, as to how he threw/throw in the three-quarter motion, sidearm motion, and over the top motion Tony, can do the all.
 
:hammer:
Muhast;1807945 said:
Okay so does form mean more than production?

I think this is a big reason why there are so many qb busts. Everyone has this idea of how things "should look" and go by that instead of how the guy actually plays. Form is all a matter of what your IDEA it should look like. If you look at some of the all time greats its very rare that ANY of them were similar in style. Aikman could never be compared to Marino. Marino never to Young. Young never to Montana. Montana never to Unitas etc. Thats what makes them great. They play the game like its never been played.
 
Hostile;1808065 said:
Oh boy, I'll probably regret this.

No, his motion and mechanics are not better than Aikman's. No his release is not better than Marino's. I don't think his mechanics are what you would necessarily teach a youngster at all as a way to succeed and copy for success. It works for him. I highly doubt it can be replicated.

His release is very fast. Pretty close to the 90's version of Warner. Marino's release was other-wordly. His release most reminds me of Joe Namath. The ball doesn't explode out of hsi hand like it did Namath, but it leaves in a hurry.

Romo's biggest asset is his 6th sense of the coming pass rush. I've never seen anything like it. He feels the rush coming and escapes. Does it as well as anyone I have ever seen.

His 2nd biggest asset is his attitude. It is easy to see why guys enjoy playing with him, he's having fun. In this case he compares to Favre. Just a big kid out there having a ball.

He combines these tools into a unique package that is fun to watch, but I think it's a tragic mistake to say his mechanics are as good as Aikman's, and his release as explosive as Marino's.
I agree Hos, Aikman's mechanics was textbook material.
 
Torn_ACL;1808574 said:
I think it's horrible. We should probably trade him ASAP.

...
Your use of sarcasm is impeccable. Keep it up and the ACL won't be the only thing that's torn. :D
 
Romo's throwing action (both release and mechanic) isn't very pretty but is very effective and gets the job done.
 
There's definitely nothing "textbook" about Romo's mechanics but, damn, they're effective (and that's all that matters)! I doubt that QB coaches around the US are using Romo as a template as far as his throwing motions and such but you cannot dispute his success on the field. He's a unique talent and I doubt that they'll be another like him!
 

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