Romo's throwing motion

[Ben_n_austin]

His release and his mechanics are probably the best I've ever seen. And the way he looks down field at almost all times enables him to make some of the most brilliant throws that I've witnessed as a fan.

The thing I've always been high on Romo about is his ability to read the entire field and know the schematics of the plays he's calling/running.

He reads the field very well. And that's half of his game right there.

I think the other half of it, though, is his throwing motion--along with his matured presence in the pocket. His motion and release is probably better than, say, Troy Aikman or Dan Marino.

Thoughts? Agree? Disagree?

 

[Achozen]

His release and his mechanics are probably the best I've ever seen. And the way he looks down field at almost all times enables him to make some of the most brilliant throws that I've witnessed as a fan.

The thing I've always been high on Romo about is his ability to read the entire field and know the schematics of the plays he's calling/running.

He reads the field very well. And that's half of his game right there.

I think the other half of it, though, is his throwing motion--along with his matured presence in the pocket. His motion and release is probably better than, say, Troy Aikman or Dan Marino.

Thoughts? Agree? Disagree?

Honestly, I think he has an ugly release. Carson Palmer has a better release than Romo IMO. He throws almost exactly like Aikman.

 

[Ben_n_austin]

Honestly, I think he has an ugly release. Carson Palmer has a better release than Romo IMO. He throws almost exactly like Aikman.

Carson Palmer takes too long to set up his feet on the deep ball. When I think "release", I think Dan Marino. But there is more to overall mechanics than just release.

I'll politely disagree and say that Romo's release and his mechanics are amongst the best to play the game.

 

[NextGenBoys]

He has bad form. You want to release the ball at a higher point than what Romo does. He kind of slings it out sidearm style, but that is what makes his release so quick, and is one of his best qualities. So, its bad form, but it is a great asset.

 

[Muhast]

He has bad form. You want to release the ball at a higher point than what Romo does. He kind of slings it out sidearm style, but that is what makes his release so quick, and is one of his best qualities. So, its bad form, but it is a great asset.

Okay so does form mean more than production?

I think this is a big reason why there are so many qb busts. Everyone has this idea of how things "should look" and go by that instead of how the guy actually plays. Form is all a matter of what your IDEA it should look like. If you look at some of the all time greats its very rare that ANY of them were similar in style. Aikman could never be compared to Marino. Marino never to Young. Young never to Montana. Montana never to Unitas etc. Thats what makes them great. They play the game like its never been played.

 

[sago1]

Whatever Romo is doing is very effective. It may not be the most ideal- looking throwing motion, but it sure gets the job down. I've heard/read several people (like former QBs & Madden) state their admiration for his ability to throw from all planes and to anywhere on the field. Same goes for his release, pocket presence, accuracy, etc.

During the Packer game, Collingsworth really liked the play where TO cut off his usual WR in motion jog and immediately headed maybe 10-15 yards into the endzone where Romo immediatley hit him for one of his TDs. Collingsworth later called it a very sophisticated move and was very complimentary about it and about the aplomb with which Romo plays the game. It gave me the feeling that Collingsworth is really impressed with Romo's play (beyond what the average football fan sees) and also how Jason Garrett is running this offense.

 

[Clove]

I like his weird throwing motion, reminds me a Vinny Johnson that used to play for the Detroit Pistons, he had a "granny" basketball shot, but it was deadly. Horrible form...

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I am not a big fan of the over the top release. While most HS coaches teach this from a very young age, in the NFL, you have to be able to throw from different angels. Romo has a short, quick motion. It really is very good for the NFL. I don't believe he has a side arm motion, per say. I believe he has the unique ability to throw accuratly from different points of release. I don't know that I would call it perfect mechanics from the stand point of release but I do know that he has very good footwork. He also manages to turn his body in many different situations. The fact that he gets his shoulders turned, but more importanly, his feet in position to throw the ball with velocity is really pretty unique IMO. Not a lot of guys can do this. His accuracy, while on the run is an amazing thing. His release is not classic and his throwing motion is not what you might consider beautiful but it's probably more effective then the classic over the top motion.

 

[superpunk]

He has bad form. You want to release the ball at a higher point than what Romo does. He kind of slings it out sidearm style, but that is what makes his release so quick, and is one of his best qualities. So, its bad form, but it is a great asset.

I don't really agree. I think his form is incredible. It just looks awkward on the windup because it is so compact. But his release point is high, and his fast windup makes it nearly impossible for linemen to get their hands up quick enough to get any bat-downs even if Romo goes into improv mode and slings it sidearm. His delivery is unique, and is one of the many things that makes him great.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

ROMO has one of the quickest realizes I have seen......he is so much fun to watch.

Sometimes he comes a little side armed with is not good but I would not change a thing about him.

 

[seniorette]

Okay so does form mean more than production?

I think this is a big reason why there are so many qb busts. Everyone has this idea of how things "should look" and go by that instead of how the guy actually plays. Form is all a matter of what your IDEA it should look like. If you look at some of the all time greats its very rare that ANY of them were similar in style. Aikman could never be compared to Marino. Marino never to Young. Young never to Montana. Montana never to Unitas etc. Thats what makes them great. They play the game like its never been played.

Okay so does form mean more than production?
I read all of this stuff about form and mechanics etc. And really getting the job done is the trill of it all. Its is hard to watch Eli because he can’t get the job done. Not because I dissect his "mechanics".
So lets put this in the eyes of a regular fan and not fanatic. I think this is a big reason why there are so many qb busts.
I think this is a big reason there are divorces.
Everyone has this idea of how things "should look" and go by that instead of how the guy actually plays.
What a person is really like inside instead of all the cover of the book.
Form is all a matter of what your IDEA it should look like.
Should it be small and petite, Carrie, or big and busty, Jessica.
If you look at some of the all time greats its very rare that ANY of them were similar in style.
Aikman could never be compared to Marino. Elizabeth Taylor, to Jean Simmons
Marino never to Young. Jayne Mansfield to Sandra Dee
Young never to Montana. Marilyn Monroe to Doris Day
Montana never to Unitas etc. You get the idea
That’s what makes them great.
They play the game like its never been played.
They are all great ladies in there own way but who looks at there mechanics. As to how they get the job done. It is the fact they are fascinating to watch.
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[CPonder14]

This is what you call an Extreme over the top throwing motion
http://www.takkle.com/members/6958843/display

Like Joe Montana.

That kid has been compared to Tom Brady.

 

[FLcowboy]

Ben, I'm certainly not an expert or a coach, but to me I think his setup and release are awesome. He doesn't have to wind up to get the ball 30 yards downfield, and has unbelievable touch.

Against Green Bay, the toss to Fasano was beautiful, only Fasano could have caught it. the toss to T.O. that bounced off T.O. and landed in Harris' hands was a fluke. T.R. drilled the ball into the spot, and while it was slightly behind T.O., it should have been caught for a TD.

I also enjoy watching him look defensive backs off. Maybe I never paid attention before, but it seems he is a master at that.

 

[Doomsday101]

His release and his mechanics are probably the best I've ever seen. And the way he looks down field at almost all times enables him to make some of the most brilliant throws that I've witnessed as a fan.

The thing I've always been high on Romo about is his ability to read the entire field and know the schematics of the plays he's calling/running.

He reads the field very well. And that's half of his game right there.

I think the other half of it, though, is his throwing motion--along with his matured presence in the pocket. His motion and release is probably better than, say, Troy Aikman or Dan Marino.

Thoughts? Agree? Disagree?

I think his throwing motion is fine but what still impresses me the most is how he handles this game mentally. I watch all the other teams and QB's in the NFL, many top draft picks and I tell you none of these guys have anything over Tony Romo we are damn lucky to find this gem

 

[big dog cowboy]

This is a results driven league.

Romo may not have a textbook release, but do we really care? I don't.

 

[Hostile]

His release and his mechanics are probably the best I've ever seen. And the way he looks down field at almost all times enables him to make some of the most brilliant throws that I've witnessed as a fan.

The thing I've always been high on Romo about is his ability to read the entire field and know the schematics of the plays he's calling/running.

He reads the field very well. And that's half of his game right there.

I think the other half of it, though, is his throwing motion--along with his matured presence in the pocket. His motion and release is probably better than, say, Troy Aikman or Dan Marino.

Thoughts? Agree? Disagree?

Oh boy, I'll probably regret this.

No, his motion and mechanics are not better than Aikman's. No his release is not better than Marino's. I don't think his mechanics are what you would necessarily teach a youngster at all as a way to succeed and copy for success. It works for him. I highly doubt it can be replicated.

His release is very fast. Pretty close to the 90's version of Warner. Marino's release was other-wordly. His release most reminds me of Joe Namath. The ball doesn't explode out of hsi hand like it did Namath, but it leaves in a hurry.

Romo's biggest asset is his 6th sense of the coming pass rush. I've never seen anything like it. He feels the rush coming and escapes. Does it as well as anyone I have ever seen.

His 2nd biggest asset is his attitude. It is easy to see why guys enjoy playing with him, he's having fun. In this case he compares to Favre. Just a big kid out there having a ball.

He combines these tools into a unique package that is fun to watch, but I think it's a tragic mistake to say his mechanics are as good as Aikman's, and his release as explosive as Marino's.

 

[THUMPER]

Tony Romo is one of the best QBs I have ever seen play the game and I have seen them all since the early 60s. He may not turn out to be the greatest QB ever (I hope he does) but he is the best at what counts the most.

His qualities include:

Pocket presence - His awareness in the pocket is uncanny and he avoids the pass rush without ever taking his eyes off the receivers downfield. His ability to step up or slide out of the pocket to avoid the rush is the best I've ever seen, even better than Marino's which I have always considered to be the best ever.

Quick release - Again, his release is comparable to Marino's which has always been considered to quickest. He just gets the ball out before the defenders can get to him.

Reading the defense/ going through his progressions - Romo is excellent at reading the defense and finding the open man. Many times he will go through his 3rd or 4th read before getting the ball out to an open man. All this before the pass rush can get to him.

Accuracy - Considering his free style of play and the angles he throws from at times he has excellent accuracy. Not Troy Aikman accuracy but very, very good.

Ability to make plays on the move - He is currently the best in the league at making plays on the move. When he gets outside the pocket he is extremely dangerous as he will find someone open and get the ball to him.

Leadership - The players like and respect Romo. They follow him because they know he is a winner and will do whatever it takes to win the game. Staubach had that same ability and we pulled out a lot of games because of it. Even Owens defers to Romo because he respects him as a leader and a winner. Even after going through a tough stretch at the end of last season the players never lost their trust in Romo. That speaks volumes!


Lots of QBs are 6'5" and have rocket arms, a perfect throwing motion, and were 1st round draft picks but none of them are as good as Tony Romo. Not Carson Palmer, not Ben Roethlisberger, none of them. The measureables that the scouts look for are NOT what makes a great QB. It is the intangibles that, when you add them together, come out with a guy who has it all. Romo & Brady are those type of guys.

Unitas was a late round draft pick (9th round) who was considered too skinny and frail for the NFL. Staubach (10th round) was a great college QB but was considered an inaccurate scrambler and a risk after missing 4 years. Montana (late 3rd round) was a weak-armed guy who was too frail.

On the other hand guys like George Shaw, Gary Glick, King Hill, Randy Duncan, George Izo, Terry Baker, Pete Beathard Steve Spurrier, Jerry Tagge, Steve Pisarkiewicz, Jack Thompson, Marc Wilson, Art Schlichter, Steve Walsh, David Klingler, Heath Shuler, and Tim Couch were all taken as the top QBs of their draft class yet did next to nothing in the NFL. They were all considered by the scouts as the next great QB but they all failed miserably. Many other highly touted QBs had less than stellar careers.

I guess it is because it is so difficult to measure the intangibles, particularly when comparing the college game to the NFL, that there are so many misses. I am just glad that, even though we had to wait 3+ years to see him play, Tony Romo is a Dallas Cowboy! The guys has it all and will continue to break records for a long time to come.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Romo just gets the job done, that's all matters at the end of the day!

 

[CPonder14]

Tony Romo is one of the best QBs I have ever seen play the game and I have seen them all since the early 60s. He may not turn out to be the greatest QB ever (I hope he does) but he is the best at what counts the most.

His qualities include:

Pocket presence - His awareness in the pocket is uncanny and he avoids the pass rush without ever taking his eyes off the receivers downfield. His ability to step up or slide out of the pocket to avoid the rush is the best I've ever seen, even better than Marino's which I have always considered to be the best ever.
Tom Brady is the only QB that has comparable pocket presence. His is slightly more advanced than Romo as of right now.

Quick release - Again, his release is comparable to Marino's which has always been considered to quickest. He just gets the ball out before the defenders can get to him.
His normal throwing motion is not as fast as Marino's, but he does have a Marino release in his arsenal that he brings out on occasion. For ex: in the Packers game he was being rushed by Kampman in the 4th quarter, and he threw it 2x as fast as his normal motion, to avoid getting sacked.


Reading the defense/ going through his progressions - Romo is excellent at reading the defense and finding the open man. Many times he will go through his 3rd or 4th read before getting the ball out to an open man. All this before the pass rush can get to him.
He is very good at reading defenses. Very rarely do you see him just misread a coverage and get picked off. Most of his INT's come on bad throws/forcing the ball in tight spots.

Accuracy - Considering his free style of play and the angles he throws from at times he has excellent accuracy. Not Troy Aikman accuracy but very, very good.
He has outstanding accuracy, but he is not at the level of Brady or Manning because he is not nearly as consistent as those two, in terms of putting the ball exactly where it needs to be.

Ability to make plays on the move - He is currently the best in the league at making plays on the move. When he gets outside the pocket he is extremely dangerous as he will find someone open and get the ball to him.
No question he is the king at throwing while on the move in the National Football League. Jay Cutler has a better qb rating outside the pocket, but he does not have the same feel that Romo has. Big Ben is a good one also.

Leadership - The players like and respect Romo. They follow him because they know he is a winner and will do whatever it takes to win the game. Staubach had that same ability and we pulled out a lot of games because of it. Even Owens defers to Romo because he respects him as a leader and a winner. Even after going through a tough stretch at the end of last season the players never lost their trust in Romo. That speaks volumes!
His intangibles are off the charts, as Gil Brandt said.


Lots of QBs are 6'5" and have rocket arms, a perfect throwing motion, and were 1st round draft picks but none of them are as good as Tony Romo. Not Carson Palmer, not Ben Roethlisberger, none of them. The measureables that the scouts look for are NOT what makes a great QB. It is the intangibles that, when you add them together, come out with a guy who has it all. Romo & Brady are those type of guys.

Unitas was a late round draft pick (9th round) who was considered too skinny and frail for the NFL. Staubach (10th round) was a great college QB but was considered an inaccurate scrambler and a risk after missing 4 years. Montana (late 3rd round) was a weak-armed guy who was too frail.

On the other hand guys like George Shaw, Gary Glick, King Hill, Randy Duncan, George Izo, Terry Baker, Pete Beathard Steve Spurrier, Jerry Tagge, Steve Pisarkiewicz, Jack Thompson, Marc Wilson, Art Schlichter, Steve Walsh, David Klingler, Heath Shuler, and Tim Couch were all taken as the top QBs of their draft class yet did next to nothing in the NFL. They were all considered by the scouts as the next great QB but they all failed miserably. Many other highly touted QBs had less than stellar careers.

I guess it is because it is so difficult to measure the intangibles, particularly when comparing the college game to the NFL, that there are so many misses. I am just glad that, even though we had to wait 3+ years to see him play, Tony Romo is a Dallas Cowboy! The guys has it all and will continue to break records for a long time to come.

Pretty much agree with you.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Romo's biggest asset is his 6th sense of the coming pass rush. I've never seen anything like it. He feels the rush coming and escapes. Does it as well as anyone I have ever seen.

His 2nd biggest asset is his attitude. It is easy to see why guys enjoy playing with him, he's having fun. In this case he compares to Favre. Just a big kid out there having a ball.

Romo's 3rd biggest asset is..... he reads the defenders....their body language, their stance. He has mentioned this before... when he "yelled out" "TO!, TO!" he had mentioned that the defender covering TO had his hips square so he knew that he was blitzing ang that TO would be free.
How many QB's do that?


He must have taken some lessons of feeling things around you with your eyes closed... some sort of Jedi-like Zen practice... ala Luke practing on the Millenium Falcon with the light saber and the sphere that was blasting him in the arse while he had blinders on :laugh2: