rotoworld: All signs point to Owens leaving cowboys *Merge*

[ScipioCowboy]

The article can't be serious.

Who in their right mind would surrender a third round pick for a 35 year old receiver, whom dissension has followed wherever he's played and who, last season, had more games under 40 yards receiving than games over 100 yards receiving?

 

[khiladi]

Lombardi also said:"Maybe Jones can work a trade out to send Owens to the Raiders since they have a huge need at wideout and have never been afraid to take on a big challenge. This will be interesting to follow as it develops."So Lombardi pretty much speculated totally based upon the fact that Raiders need a wide-out and Davis isn't afraid to take on a big challenge. Hey, Lombardi why not also speculate that the Raiders are going to pick up Pac-man, because they too, will need a corner when Nmandi leaves...

 

[DuaneThomas71]

Yeah, you're going to get a 3rd round pick for a 35-going-on-36 year old receiver who was going to be released anyway...when Randy Moss barely fetched a 4th, and he was several years younger.

Michael Lombardi...what a football expert!

 

[Shake_Tiller]

Again, maybe Lombardi threw out that third round pick scenario in another article I didn't see, but it wasn't in the one I found. There was merely the nebulous suggestion of a possible trade.

I don't think the Cowboys will trade Owens, and I don't think there's a trade market for Owens. I think he will either be released, or he will be a member of the Cowboys.

 

[khiladi]

Isn't that the truth. TO has been very lucky to play with Steve Young, Garcia, McNabb, and Romo.



Of course his supporters will tell us that TO made those QBs.

Ah, OK.. So Garcia didn't benefit from the talent around him in SF. After he left SF, he never sniffed more than 13 TDs throwing. Garcia sucked in Cleveland, and didn't put up good numbers with Tampa Bay as well. Did TO make them worse? Hell, McNabb had how many TDs the year he had Owens? The guy had 31 TDs throwing, with his second best season at 25, in 2001. And McNabb didn't play one game during the regular season. You people act as if Owens makes QBs worse, when even McNabb, his mortal enemy, says that they could have accomplished a lot together. How about Romo's performance when TO went out last year? How about the play-off games, when TO had a high-ankle sprain... Please...

 

[TheCount]

Where did people come the delusion that trading him would relieve us of the money we owe him?

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Ah, OK.. So Garcia didn't benefit from the talent around him in SF. After he left SF, he never sniffed more than 13 TDs throwing. Garcia sucked in Cleveland, and didn't put up good numbers with Tampa Bay as well. Did TO make them worse? Hell, McNabb had how many TDs the year he had Owens? The guy had 31 TDs throwing, with his second best season at 25, in 2001. And McNabb didn't play one game during the regular season. You people act as if Owens makes QBs worse, when even McNabb, his mortal enemy, says that they could have accomplished a lot together. How about Romo's performance when TO went out last year? How about the play-off games, when TO had a high-ankle sprain... Please...

I didn't say he made them worse. Never even hinted it. What I said was that the TO Fan Club would make it out that he didn't get lucky to play with those guys, but that he made them great.

And you proved my point.

 

[superpunk]

Isn't that the truth. TO has been very lucky to play with Steve Young, Garcia, McNabb, and Romo.

Of course his supporters will tell us that TO made those QBs.

Nostradamus imo.

 

[DuaneThomas71]

It's also funny to me how people actually think the Cowboys would need week after week to make a decision. How long does it take to weigh all the positives and negatives?

Give me a break. It usually doesn't take more than a few days for someone to decide whether or not to have a life altering surgery...but the Cowboys can't make up their minds about Owens?



And now it's not a matter of IF, but WHEN...suuuurrrrre. Let's see, do we cut him now and suffer the months and months of media and personal Owens backlash into training camp and preseason...or wait until minicamps, so he can show up...and THEN we can cut him, making an even bigger scene and making sure it runs deep into the regular season.

Decisions, decisions.

 

[ddh33]

I'd trade him for anything. And I mean anything.

A trade lets Dallas pick his landing spot, as opposed to seeing him stay in the NFC East and make our lives miserable.

But even if I couldn't deal him, and even if I thought I would have to face him in an important game, I'd still get rid of him. I think he's that much of a burden, and I'm not sure he's as great as he's been made out to be.

 

[BrassCowboy]

I honestly can see Al Davis doing this. It would not surprise me. A third rounder would be an absolute steal considering we are talking about letting him go for nothing(in terms of compensation). I bet Al Davis would think it would be a steal for getting him for a third rounder also. If he's traded, we wouldnt have a 9 mil cap hit? It would be erased?

you are correct, if he is traded with no contract rework on our part, then the contract goes with him, hence it would become Oakland's problem.

 

[5Countem5]

It's also funny to me how people actually think the Cowboys would need week after week to make a decision. How long does it take to weigh all the positives and negatives?

Give me a break. It usually doesn't take more than a few days for someone to decide whether or not to have a life altering surgery...but the Cowboys can't make up their minds about Owens?



And now it's not a matter of IF, but WHEN...suuuurrrrre. Let's see, do we cut him now and suffer the months and months of media and personal Owens backlash into training camp and preseason...or wait until minicamps, so he can show up...and THEN we can cut him, making an even bigger scene and making sure it runs deep into the regular season.

Decisions, decisions.

What's funny is that this was the same hopeful-type posting that went on about Wade and when Shanny became available. Jerry said Wade was staying- and guess what- he stayed.

I'm pretty sure Jerry already said TO was staying too. Some just don't believe straight talk. Romo said he wants him to stay and said the WHOLE team wants him to stay- I guess he is just lying...LOL

 

[BrassCowboy]

First if we could trade him for a 3rd and NOT have to pay his salary then I'd be all over that in a second.

However I don't believe that's the case. I believe if we trade him, or cut him, then we'd still have to pay the accelerated amount of his bonus on our cap. Not sure what the figure would be, or how that works out, but I'm sure Adam could tell us when he comes along.

that is if we were to release him, trading works alittle different.

When you trade a player, his current contract remains in effect for the new team. They usually get reworked by the new team, sometimes before trade happens, but either case the new team assumes responsibility.

 

[khiladi]

"I didn't say he made them worse. Never even hinted it. What I said was that the TO Fan Club would make it out that he didn't get lucky to play with those guys, but that he made them great. And you proved my point."Funyn thing is, the anti-TO crowd has no point. He did make great QBs better though, did he not? Didn't McNabb throw his most TDs ever, when TO was in the line-up? Remember also, TO got hurt as well that season, and McNabb missed one game. So you have no evidence that he caused QBs to regress, right? Even with Romo, the offense sputtered when he was out last year. And, again Jeff Garcia surely wasn't great. He hasn't done jack without TO ever since.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I don't know about that. If faced with being exiled to Oakland or minding his Ps and Qs, I bet TO would take the 2nd option.

At the end of the day, TO really wants to win. Him going to Oakland would be an absolute deathblow to his ego and any shot that he has at winning a championship.

If it came to it, I'd bet the farm TO would refuse to play in Oakland. That would be the end of the trade.

Exactly. He'd never take the move to Oakland, just like he wouldn't got to Baltimore.

That isn't true. TO was in a crazy situation b/c his agent forgot to file the correct paperwork and he already had a deal in place with Philly. He didn't "block" the trade, he challenged whether SF had the right to make the trade.

I believe that is actually incorrect, to some degree. The trade to Baltimore happened before any talks with Philly took place, or could take place, because he was under contract. TO either had something in his contract, or a legit complaint, that allowed him to keep the Niners from being able to keep the deal with Baltimore that they'd done. Instead of going to the Ravens he reverted back to the Niners and the Niners did what Owens wanted, which was trade him to Philly.

He didn't already have a deal with Philly in place because they couldn't have done something like that without getting tampering charges brought against them for negotiating with a player under contract to another team.

 

[Rampage]

What's funny is that this was the same hopeful-type posting that went on about Wade and when Shanny became available. Jerry said Wade was staying- and guess what- he stayed.

I'm pretty sure Jerry already said TO was staying too. Some just don't believe straight talk. Romo said he wants him to stay and said the WHOLE team wants him to stay- I guess he is just lying...LOL

exactly! Romo said he wants the whole team to stay which includes Cory Proctor. do you believe he wants Cory to stay?

 

[KingintheNorth]

Trading or cutting a player creates the exact same cap hit. It has been reported that cutting TO would cost us an additional $600,000 so trading him would take $600,000 off of our cap room BUT he would be completely off the books going into 2010.

 

[Aikmaniac]

Proctor can't go anywhere...I mean literally, he can't go anywhere. He only can move his arms in a helicopter motion.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

I'd take one of Al's lime green jump suits for the guy. More importantly, I can return to my utter disdain and hatred for the guy because of his disrespect for the star. Long Live George Teague!

 

[jterrell]

I'd take a 3rd rounder so fast Al Davis' flabby skin would flop in the breeze created.

same here.