AdamJT13;1763137 said:
My power was out after a major wind storm, so I haven't gotten to read this thread since I posted in it last night. I see that I didn't miss much.
Once again, I find it odd how not a single poster can name one other play when Roy was targeted or beaten other than the four catches for 23 yards I mentioned -- and yet many posters continue to claim that Roy played terribly last night simply because Shockey finished with 12 catches for 129 yards.
There are at least two plays in the second half where it appeared Roy was very slow getting into the coverage. That is with me assuming he even had any coverage on those plays. Because they were trying to play the LBs underneath to help stop those short to mid range passes. I'm not going to rewatch it for the fourth time just to point out those two plays either BTW.
Not here to argue with you either. Just want to point out that it might be possible for those who put those stats together to be wrong in assigning coverage. I don't know what shots they use and just how they absolutely know who is responsible. But I do know that unless you know for sure who does have coverage responsibility then unless stats come from the teams then they are very likely to be wrong at times. And I would guess significantly at times.
To my non-professional football mind and with trying to be unbiased when looking at the games with the usual TV coverage, it appears that RW is having to play off receivers including TEs about ten yds or more. That's not entirely unusual but it is a substantial cushion. That is going to lend itself to short completions as well as occasional big gains with missed tackles, confusion, picks, and missed assignments.
Even with big cushions he still allows a lot of completions. And IMO he blows the coverage a lot, particularly when he is having to pick up a receiver or drop one off. What I mean is it appears he drops them when he shouldn't and doesn't pick them up when he should. JMO but it appears to happen too frequently for me. That and being slow to get to the receiver to do anything but make a tackle.
Additionally he actually does not tackle very well. Sure he gets a few big hits. He also misses too much trying to load up. He overruns plays much too often for someone with his experience and he blitzes poorly. Meaning he doesn't get to the QB that often blitzing.
He sheds blockers fairly well but certainly not on an All Pro or Pro Bowl basis.
IOW, he is a pretty average safety who doesn't too one single thing really that well. Certainly not up to the standards of the money he receives. No one really appears to be afraid of going over the middle. Some of that is certainly the league over-protecting receivers but some is he just doesn't do the job anymore.
Hamlin plays as well or better and for a lot less money.
IMO we would be better off with another safety back there. Not saying we will get one or can find one but there are more than a few safeties in the league that produce better than RW. Who would really have the guts to sit the guy with the money he makes. He'll have to play a lot worse than average to get sat IMO.
Never thought I would say this as I really loved this guy. The problem is he doesn't play like the same guy we had the first 1-3 years.
JMO.
