Roy Vs. Polamalu

[AdamJT13]

True. Roy's interception against Philly came when he was playing close to the line of scrimmage and fanned out into the flat. That play had Pile and Davis as the deep safeties.

Pile wasn't on the field. Davis and Roy lined up at deep safety. Right before the snap, Roy came up a little, possibly faking a blitz, then fanned out (appearing to read McNabb's eyes) after the snap. Davis moved into the deep middle, apparently to pick up Parry coming out of the backfield.

 

[JonCJG]

Probably thought that we were playing cover 3 because Madden says so in the broadcast.

Then again he also says its Shanle who made the block on Mcnabb that sprung Roy for that TD. But the replay is very clear. Cover 2 look, right before the snap Roy creeps up to the LOS.

 

[joseephuss]

Probably thought that we were playing cover 3 because Madden says so in the broadcast.

Then again he also says its Shanle who made the block on Mcnabb that sprung Roy for that TD. But the replay is very clear. Cover 2 look, right before the snap Roy creeps up to the LOS.

Roy said they were in Cover 3. It was disguised with him lining up deep at first and then he came up to fake the blitz. Newman had deep responsiblities on the outside and Davis in the middle. Roy had the flat and since McNabb thought he was blitzing threw it to where the receiver would have been if he had blitzed. The receiver saw Roy go to the flat, so he didn't cut his route short.

 

[TEK2000]

Before this thread....how many of you that don't regularly watch the Steelers had heard anything about Polamalu other than he had some crazy hair?

 

[AmericasTeam31]

I live in PA and before this year, thanks to the Sunday Ticket, I had to watch every Steelers game to get updates on other scores. Polamalu and Roy, which one is better? It's a wash.... You'll never win an arguement on either side of that one. On one hand TP has been playing on a more rounded defense, which creates alot of confusion and pressure for the QB. And since the defense is so good around him, he is able to "wing it" more. Roy on the other hand, hasn't had that advantage. Even in 2003 our defense wasn't physically as good as Pittsburgh (statistically may be another story). They both have strengths and weaknesses, but over all I'd be happy with either one, as long as TP cut his hair, but he's a very nice guy otherwise.

 

[AmericasTeam31]

True. Roy's interception against Philly came when he was playing close to the line of scrimmage and fanned out into the flat. That play had Pile and Davis as the deep safeties. Early in the season, Roy blitzed a whole lot (ie. Monday against Washington), but for some reason was placed as a deep cover 2 against Santana Moss).

What's with everyone and the cover 2? It was a man to man defense with safety help over the top.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Roy Williams is the better player in my book....the only thing he needs to work on is reading coverages quicker and reacting. Let's not forget the guy from Pittsburgh isn't a speedy player really.

 

[JonCJG]

Well actually TP ran a 4.35 at his pro day. Not sure of the surface or if it was hand held 40 or electronic.

 

[AdamJT13]

What's with everyone and the cover 2? It was a man to man defense with safety help over the top.

It was a Cover 4, which doesn't guarantee any safety help at all.

 

[cfujskins]

stats for CBs are meaningless compared to coverage

Newman had 4 picks on the year, your boy Darrell Green never had more than 5 ever, but Newman this year, and Darrell Green were pretty lock down

I agree, but if you are going hold that argument towards CBs, then you should also hold that same argument for a safety. After all, they ARE both DBs and their primary resposibility IS pass coverage. I see it all they time, when somebody tries to debunk an argument of another saftey(DB) being better than Roy by using stats including INTs.

 

[AdamJT13]

I agree, but if you are going hold that argument towards CBs, then you should also hold that same argument for a safety. After all, they ARE both DBs and their primary resposibility IS pass coverage. I see it all they time, when somebody tries to debunk an argument of another saftey(DB) being better than Roy by using stats including INTs.

Safeties don't have the same coverage responsibilities as cornerbacks, so it's not quite the same. Safeties often are helpers in coverage, not primary defenders. They also blitz more and are expected to be bigger factors in defending the run. If safeties spent most of their time near the sidelines covering one player and being expected to shut him down, then they'd be judged the same as cornerbacks. But they're not, just like you don't judge inside linebackers and outside linebackers the same (although they're both linebackers), or defensive tackles and defensive ends the same (although they're both defensive linemen). Different positions are judged differently.