Roy Vs. Polamalu

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Qwickdraw said:
Polamalu is easily the better player.

I would make an argument that Polamalu is the BEST SAFETY in all of the NFL challenged only by Ed Reed.

You watch enough Steelers games and you'll see what a force that guy is in every aspect of the game and he is always around the ball. One of the best Safeties I have ever seen. He can flat out play.

And I love some Roy Williams so you know I'm being honest here.

I have to agree with this post.
 

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AdamJT13 said:
You'd think Polamalu would be able to make more big plays, then. But he doesn't. If Roy goes three games without making a big play, we have 52 threads calling him a bust. Meanwhile, Polamalu had a stretch of 13 games in which he made big plays in only TWO of them (and created a big play in only one), but a lot of people are calling him the ultimate playmaker.
It's gotta be the hair Adam. Even the Sean Taylor sheep said it. You see that wild hair and figure he must be a warrior.
 

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RCowboyFan said:
Ain't it funny, this only comes up as soon as Polamalu makes couple of big plays in Playoffs?

But then we forget the reason we won against Philly or one of the reason that Denver game was close was because of Roy Or he made a great play against Panthers. Heck out of ten games, I can remember at least 5-6 turnovers created or caused by Roy.

You mean that play that McNabb threw the ball directly at Roy Williams?

Heck, anybody could have made that play.

Every time I've watched Palomula, he's always making plays from chasing down the Lions RB and punching out the ball to intercepting balls in the Bengals game. He is a speed demon on that field.
 

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tyke1doe said:
You mean that play that McNabb threw the ball directly at Roy Williams?

Heck, anybody could have made that play.

Every time I've watched Palomula, he's always making plays from chasing down the Lions RB and punching out the ball to intercepting balls in the Bengals game. He is a speed demon on that field.

I guess the stats just decide not to record all those big plays that he makes. I mean, the way you guys talk him up, you would think he's intercepting the ball or forcing a fumble every snap. He should at least have more turnovers and ffs then Roy... which still isn't true.
 

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tyke1doe said:
You mean that play that McNabb threw the ball directly at Roy Williams?

He threw it directly at Roy because Roy read him perfectly, moved over and made the play. It's not like Roy was just standing around and the ball hit him in the hands.


Every time I've watched Palomula, he's always making plays from chasing down the Lions RB and punching out the ball to intercepting balls in the Bengals game.

Wow, you almost named every big play Polamalu made this season. Too bad you missed his game against the Texans, or you might put him in the Hall of Fame.
 

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AdamJT13 said:
He threw it directly at Roy because Roy read him perfectly, moved over and made the play. It's not like Roy was just standing around and the ball hit him in the hands.




Wow, you almost named every big play Polamalu made this season. Too bad you missed his game against the Texans, or you might put him in the Hall of Fame.

:lmao:
 

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Roy Williams was much more complete when he first came here. But then....well I dont even need to explain the reason...it is obvious.


Polamalu is better in pass coverage but he does not scare the s*** outta people like Williams does. Polamalu can hit hard but nothing like Williams. Williams could never knock out another player and Polamalu would still not even come close to all the KOs Roy has.

One of Williams problems to is he needs to drop some weight. If he could drop down to 220 he would have better speed and do better in PC in spite of the bigger problem.
 

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It would be hard for roy to drop 20lbs at this point in his career. I am sure he would have to restrict calories and would lose a ton of strength. He wouldn't be the hitter he is now, but still be top at his postion. But him hitting like a lb and putting people out of the games, IS HIS GAME. Coming down and filling holes in the running game like a 4th or 5th lb, that's why we drafted him. Not to sit in the secondary and be a ball hawk.

He is a rare talent, with rare athletic abilty. 6'0 235 4.5 Just in case you didn't know his 10 yrd dash the year he came out in the draft was second to NONE. He and Philip Buchanon were actually tied for the fastest 10 yd dash. He's really explosive and doesn't get enough credit for it. How many times have you seen a highlight of him coming out of nowhere and leveling an opponent? Even in slow motion he looks like he plays at a different speed when he's closing in on a ball carrier.

I'm sure he'd be a little quicker if he lost weight but don't think it's worth losing that intimidation factor that comes with those bone crushing hits and ff's.

If Pacells thought it would help RW I promise you Roy would already have been down to a lighter weight. Bill knows what he has in Roy. A saftey with lb size and strength who is average in coverage. Though when the ball is in the air and Roy is around it he is great at coming down with the pick.
 

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AdamJT13 said:
He threw it directly at Roy because Roy read him perfectly, moved over and made the play. It's not like Roy was just standing around and the ball hit him in the hands.




Wow, you almost named every big play Polamalu made this season. Too bad you missed his game against the Texans, or you might put him in the Hall of Fame.

Yeah Adam, somebody blasted me for giving Roy props for making that play.

They must have not seen the Carolina/Falcons Finale..ya know, the one if Carolina loses, we get into the playoffs.

Jake Delhomme throws a pass that was eerily similar to Donovan Mcnabb's, the Safety for the Falcons jumps in front of the ball and completely drops an absolute gimmee.

I mention this because very next play....Deshaun Foster takes a handoff for 70 Yards down the right hand side of the field and the rest is history.....

- Mike G.
 

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That's a very good point. Seems to me whenever Roy makes a big play its ho hum. But when he misses a tackle, or gets beat deep (everyone does ask Commanders fans about Sean Taylor who is way better that Roy in coverage) he is a bust, or average and not worthy of a top 10 pick. Gets old.
 

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That's a very good point. Seems to me whenever Roy makes a big play its ho hum. But when he misses a tackle, or gets beat (everyone does) he is a bust, or average and not worthy of a top 10 pick. Gets old.

He is the highest profile player on the team...well Key may have something to say about that but anyway, very well known and for years had an almost God-like status (I am still high on the guy).

Whenever he makes a mistake, it gets blown out of porportion and of course, mistakes at his position often very costly and easy to see.

- Mike G.
 

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Qwickdraw said:
Polamalu is easily the better player.

I would make an argument that Polamalu is the BEST SAFETY in all of the NFL challenged only by Ed Reed.

You watch enough Steelers games and you'll see what a force that guy is in every aspect of the game and he is always around the ball. One of the best Safeties I have ever seen. He can flat out play.

And I love some Roy Williams so you know I'm being honest here.


Dude you're trippin....
 

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Mansta54 said:
Dude you're trippin....
Dude, you're biased.

Put Roy in yellow and black and put Polamalu in blue and silver and I bet your opinion changes real fast.
 

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MDCowboy said:
That is true, which I still cannot believe that the Cowboys have spent the last two years without a true FS making their best defender play out of position. Any scheme that has Roy Williams in deep coverage as oppose to playing from 15 yards in is flawed!

Roy was put near the LOS much of this year, and had a very good year
 

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tyke1doe said:
You mean that play that McNabb threw the ball directly at Roy Williams?

Heck, anybody could have made that play.

Every time I've watched Palomula, he's always making plays from chasing down the Lions RB and punching out the ball to intercepting balls in the Bengals game. He is a speed demon on that field.

Roy jarring the ball loose from Brandon Jacobs preventing a TD in the win against the Giants, yeah, anyone could have made that play, but the difference is, Roy did, same applies above

or how about jarring the ball loose from Mike Anderson against the Broncos, hell, if our offense executed after, we very well could have won the Thanksgiving Day game

you're seriously nit-picking
 

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Wolverine said:
Roy Williams was much more complete when he first came here. But then....well I dont even need to explain the reason...it is obvious.

that makes absolutely no sense, how can you be a more complete player in college than the pros? if that's the case, the problem extends much further than Zimmer
 

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Qwickdraw said:
Put Roy in yellow and black and put Polamalu in blue and silver and I bet your opinion changes real fast.

Put Polamalu in blue and silver, and Cowboys fans would blast him for going nine straight games without an interception, going 14 straight games without a sack, going 15 straight games without forcing a fumble, going seven straight and then nine straight games without recovering a fumble, going five straight and then four straight games without making a single big play of any kind, not making as many plays as he made last season, getting beaten for touchdowns in coverage and not being nearly as good as the Steelers' big-play safety, Roy Williams.
 

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AdamJT13 said:
Put Polamalu in blue and silver, and Cowboys fans would blast him for going nine straight games without an interception, going 14 straight games without a sack, going 15 straight games without forcing a fumble, going seven straight and then nine straight games without recovering a fumble, going five straight and then four straight games without making a single big play of any kind, not making as many plays as he made last season, getting beaten for touchdowns in coverage and not being nearly as good as the Steelers' big-play safety, Roy Williams.
Maybe the problems is Cowboys fans...

not the Safety.
 

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Blah, cut that crappy hair. It would be awesome if he intercepts it, and someone pulls his hair. Oh that would make my day.
 
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