Roy Williams 31

[Howboutdemcowboys31]

Just watched him get destroyed on a Bengals version of Hard Knocks in the Oklahoma drill. This is a drill where two players pretty much run full speed into each other and see who wins.

To my point, what ever happened to this guy? Never in my life, in any sport, have I ever witnessed someone fall so low from being so high. I remember watching him and thinking he has the makings to be one of the best safeties in Cowboys history. It's not even like he only got exposed in coverage, he also became soft with his tackling. The Roy Williams rule was only when he was chasing, has nothing to do with head up contact. I know he supposedly was "reborn" with the church but it has to be something deeper then that. Damn Roy

 

[zack]

Just watched him get destroyed on a Bengals version of Hard Knocks in the Oklahoma drill. This is a drill where two players pretty much run full speed into each other and see who wins.

To my point, what ever happened to this guy? Never in my life, in any sport, have I ever witnessed someone fall so low from being so high. I remember watching him and thinking he has the makings to be one of the best safeties in Cowboys history. It's not even like he only got exposed in coverage, he also became soft with his tackling. The Roy Williams rule was only when he was chasing, has nothing to do with head up contact. I know he supposedly was "reborn" with the church but it has to be something deeper then that. Damn Roy

I saw that several years ago and was pretty disappointed as well. With football, you have to have heart and will in order to be successful. Clearly, in that practice, drill, time period in his life, he didn't have either of those things right there.

 

[AsthmaField]

This happened.

 

[Howboutdemcowboys31]

This happened.

Plenty of guys are married to pretty women and don't go soft. See Tony Romo and Jason Witten

 

[jrumann59]

I think it may have been him finding religion. Could be wrong but i remember hearing something about that. Also i think he lost a lot of confidence, here.

 

[Doomsday101]

Just watched him get destroyed on a Bengals version of Hard Knocks in the Oklahoma drill. This is a drill where two players pretty much run full speed into each other and see who wins.

To my point, what ever happened to this guy? Never in my life, in any sport, have I ever witnessed someone fall so low from being so high. I remember watching him and thinking he has the makings to be one of the best safeties in Cowboys history. It's not even like he only got exposed in coverage, he also became soft with his tackling. The Roy Williams rule was only when he was chasing, has nothing to do with head up contact. I know he supposedly was "reborn" with the church but it has to be something deeper then that. Damn Roy

I think as the rules changed involving hitting WR and horse collar that Roy became tentative and lost his confidence. He had been a big hitter since he started playing ball but I think he was unable to change as the league rules changed

 

[jaybird]

That an

This happened.

That and Darren Woodson or lack of. RW31 was riding Darren's coat tails

 

[erod]

He got old fast. Lost what little speed he had and just couldn't stay up with receivers, and too small to play linebacker.

He was one of the best college players I've ever seen to this day.

 

[AsthmaField]

Plenty of guys are married to pretty women and don't go soft. See Tony Romo and Jason Witten

I was basically joking. It certainly wasn't her fault.

If anything, he just got rich, fat and happy, so to speak. He enjoyed living the high life with a beautiful girl and lost his fire and desire to play football, IMO.

He was just more interested in having fun with his woman than playing football. It takes a lot of desire to stay at the top of this sport. Without it, you lose in the Oklahoma drills.

 

[AbeBeta]

I think as the rules changed involving hitting WR and horse collar that Roy became tentative and lost his confidence. He had been a big hitter since he started playing ball but I think he was unable to change as the league rules changed

I said it back when he missed OTAs because his family was going on a cruise (and this board HAMMERED me over criticizing him) - he just didn't have the commitment or work ethic to succeed consistently at this level. Players adapt to rule changes all the time. The horse collar thing was nothing that limited his effectiveness - he'd go to that move a few times a year. Hitting the WR was rarely a problem for him because he was hardly ever in position to do so.

 

[Doomsday101]

I said it back when he missed OTAs because his family was going on a cruise (and this board HAMMERED me over criticizing him) - he just didn't have the commitment or work ethic to succeed consistently at this level. Players adapt to rule changes all the time. The horse collar thing was nothing that limited his effectiveness - he'd go to that move a few times a year. Hitting the WR was rarely a problem for him because he was hardly ever in position to do so.

Prior to the rule changes he was playing good ball. That is my take others may feel different that is fine.

 

[Howboutdemcowboys31]

I said it back when he missed OTAs because his family was going on a cruise (and this board HAMMERED me over criticizing him) - he just didn't have the commitment or work ethic to succeed consistently at this level. Players adapt to rule changes all the time. The horse collar thing was nothing that limited his effectiveness - he'd go to that move a few times a year. Hitting the WR was rarely a problem for him because he was hardly ever in position to do so.

When he did love to hit, my god he destroyed people. Probably the hardest hitting Cowboy I've seen in my 26 years of life

 

[xwalker]

Just watched him get destroyed on a Bengals version of Hard Knocks in the Oklahoma drill. This is a drill where two players pretty much run full speed into each other and see who wins.

To my point, what ever happened to this guy? Never in my life, in any sport, have I ever witnessed someone fall so low from being so high. I remember watching him and thinking he has the makings to be one of the best safeties in Cowboys history. It's not even like he only got exposed in coverage, he also became soft with his tackling. The Roy Williams rule was only when he was chasing, has nothing to do with head up contact. I know he supposedly was "reborn" with the church but it has to be something deeper then that. Damn Roy

It was a confluence of many factors.

He said the 3-4 defense didn't fit his skill set.
Religion.
Hollywood type GF.
Big money caused loss of motivation.
Parcells probably burned out some players from football.
His violent style was probably not going to result in a long career.
Darren Woodson retiring.
Maybe some loss of confidence.
Probably got to fat.

He made a comment at one point something like he woke up one day and didn't feel like hitting people anymore.

 

[big dog cowboy]

It was a confluence of many factors.

He said the 3-4 defense didn't fit his skill set.
Religion.
Hollywood type GF.
Big money caused loss of motivation.
Parcells probably burned out some players from football.
His violent style was probably not going to result in a long career.
Darren Woodson retiring.
Maybe some loss of confidence.
Probably got to fat.

He made a comment at one point something like he woke up one day and didn't feel like hitting people anymore.

All of this is true.

 

[jrumann59]

It was a confluence of many factors.

He said the 3-4 defense didn't fit his skill set.
Religion.
Hollywood type GF.
Big money caused loss of motivation.
Parcells probably burned out some players from football.
His violent style was probably not going to result in a long career.
Darren Woodson retiring.
Maybe some loss of confidence.
Probably got to fat.

He made a comment at one point something like he woke up one day and didn't feel like hitting people anymore.

The highlighted one made me laugh the most when it was reported. Not much changes between the 3-4 and 4-3 on back end.

 

[xwalker]

The highlighted one made me laugh the most when it was reported. Not much changes between the 3-4 and 4-3 on back end.

I don't think it was the 3-4 per se, but just a different defense with different requirements and not having Woody there to teach him how to play in that defense. RW31 was not a cerebral type player.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Just watched him get destroyed on a Bengals version of Hard Knocks in the Oklahoma drill. This is a drill where two players pretty much run full speed into each other and see who wins.

To my point, what ever happened to this guy? Never in my life, in any sport, have I ever witnessed someone fall so low from being so high. I remember watching him and thinking he has the makings to be one of the best safeties in Cowboys history. It's not even like he only got exposed in coverage, he also became soft with his tackling. The Roy Williams rule was only when he was chasing, has nothing to do with head up contact. I know he supposedly was "reborn" with the church but it has to be something deeper then that. Damn Roy

I can tell you what happen, but the thing that changed in Roy's life was the cause of his downfall. The problem is, that subject is off limits here at CBZ.

 

[Howboutdemcowboys31]

It was a confluence of many factors.

He said the 3-4 defense didn't fit his skill set.
Religion.
Hollywood type GF.
Big money caused loss of motivation.
Parcells probably burned out some players from football.
His violent style was probably not going to result in a long career.
Darren Woodson retiring.
Maybe some loss of confidence.
Probably got to fat.

He made a comment at one point something like he woke up one day and didn't feel like hitting people anymore.

It's just a shame cause we can say the same things happen to the majority of NFL stars, though not many go from stardom to terrible in the blink of an eye. With age, everyone will decline. Roy was still young when he fell off

 

[AsthmaField]

I can tell you what happen, but the thing that changed in Roy's life was the cause of his downfall. The problem is, that subject is off limits here at CBZ.

Oh?

 

[tyke1doe]

When he did love to hit, my god he destroyed people. Probably the hardest hitting Cowboy I've seen in my 26 years of life

Yep. His first year, he was destroy guys. I mean he'd hit guys moving full speed and knock them backwards. I was surprised at how quickly he fell. Very disappointed.