Roy Williams - "If I start, I start. If I don't, I don't."

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AsthmaField;2160919 said:
Now you're just making **** up.

You're either delusional or not serious.

Split personalities I think Looking at his post history you can see him make 2 comments on Carpenters mustache on the same day.

The comments are totally opposite of each other lol
 

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FaithInWade01;2160920 said:
You must be Roy's boyfriend

Could you relay this thread to him?

k thanks


It's bad enough to slander a player and create imaginary meanings... but doing so for a forum member will get you gone, if you know what I mean.
 

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FaithInWade01;2160924 said:
He was the one that started with the personal attacks not me


He took it personal, when i was talking football

You weren't talking football you were making **** up to attack a Cowboys player
 

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FaithInWade01;2160920 said:
You must be Roy's boyfriend

Could you relay this thread to him?

k thanks


I'm actally his lover, we cant get married cause he's a christian but still we have mad love for each other. I'll make sure he understands that he's a lost cause to you. I'm sure he'll take it to heart and cry himself to sleep, and then i'll have to feel bad while rubbing his back. So sad
 

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AsthmaField;2160916 said:
You haven't heard plenty of players say things like, "All I can do is play as hard as I can and let the chips fall where they may"?

"It's up to the coaches, All I can do is keep working"?

Alex, I know you've heard that plenty of times before. You (nor anyone) should need a direct quote for that.

That's not what he said though. It just sounds to me he's confused and really isn't confident.

I really don't think he even believes he should start. That's the entire point.

It is not about selflessness. This is not a player who has ever been like that. If he was, he would never have fingerpointed and been as defensive as he has been. He's hardly the epitome of a team first person, so the comparisons to Barber aren't valid.

He just seems like he's lost. And for each positive he has done thus far in camp, you read several negatives. He's going to be a challenge for Dave Campo, no doubt. And a comment like this might be a sign he's not even confident in what he can do anymore. When a player changes his number thinking it is luck, that's hardly the sign of a confident player ready to break out because he's been misused and abused.
 

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Alexander;2160928 said:
That's not what he said though. It just sounds to me he's confused and really isn't confident.

I really don't think he even believes he should start. That's the entire point.

It is not about selflessness. This is not a player who has ever been like that. If he was, he would never have fingerpointed and been as defensive as he has been. He's hardly the epitome of a team first person, so the comparisons to Barber aren't valid.

He just seems like he's lost. And for each positive he has done thus far in camp, you read several negatives. He's going to be a challenge for Dave Campo, no doubt. And a comment like this might be a sign he's not even confident in what he can do anymore. When a player changes his number thinking it is luck, that's hardly the sign of a confident player ready to break out because he's been misused and abused.

Thank you

An objective viewpoint

Im sitting here getting bashed??? Is this the Roy Williams forum or something?

You guys jumped on me like a pack of rabid wolves
 

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FaithInWade01;2160929 said:
Thank you

An objective viewpoint

Im sitting here getting bashed??? Is this the Roy Williams forum or something?

You guys jumped on me like a pack of rabid wolves

You knew exactly what response you would get.

If you didn't you are an imbecile.
 

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FaithInWade01 said:
He was the one that started with the personal attacks not me

here is everyone of dargons posts in this thread priot to your attack on him where was his attack on you?

Wow dude says he'll do anything to help this team win and he gets bashed? DC you seriously need to get off Roy, your bias is just permeating through your posts, and you do to much good to go on ignore
Where does he say he doesn't want to start?

Where?

When he says i'll do whatever the team needs to win.
Or maybe its All i wanna do is win
Or when he says our common goal is to win
Obviously you care, otherwise you wouldn't be still bashing him for it.
and where did he say he was content with average play. or did you miss his comments that he was going to bring back the old Roy.

or in your blind hate for Roy you just bashed him for saying he's going to play like the old Roy, instead of doing it right at that moment in the middle of the offseason
Your a lost cause
 

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Alexander;2160930 said:
You knew exactly what response you would get.

If you didn't you are an imbecile.

I just never knew people took Roy Williams so personally.

As if this guy has been wrongly blamed/accused.

That has really bewildered me
 

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Alexander;2160928 said:
That's not what he said though. It just sounds to me he's confused and really isn't confident.

I really don't think he even believes he should start. That's the entire point.

It is not about selflessness. This is not a player who has ever been like that. If he was, he would never have fingerpointed and been as defensive as he has been. He's hardly the epitome of a team first person, so the comparisons to Barber aren't valid.

He just seems like he's lost. And for each positive he has done thus far in camp, you read several negatives. He's going to be a challenge for Dave Campo, no doubt. And a comment like this might be a sign he's not even confident in what he can do anymore. When a player changes his number thinking it is luck, that's hardly the sign of a confident player ready to break out because he's been misused and abused.


Or could it be that you are reading into his comment what you WANT them to mean seeing as you dont like Roy
 

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Alexander;2160928 said:
That's not what he said though. It just sounds to me he's confused and really isn't confident.

I really don't think he even believes he should start. That's the entire point.

It is not about selflessness. This is not a player who has ever been like that. If he was, he would never have fingerpointed and been as defensive as he has been. He's hardly the epitome of a team first person, so the comparisons to Barber aren't valid.

He just seems like he's lost. And for each positive he has done thus far in camp, you read several negatives. He's going to be a challenge for Dave Campo, no doubt. And a comment like this might be a sign he's not even confident in what he can do anymore. When a player changes his number thinking it is luck, that's hardly the sign of a confident player ready to break out because he's been misused and abused.

Some of that is difficult to argue. However, to me it sounded as if he is simply sick of analysis in the media and is in a frame of mind where he's thinking that the best thing is to simply play as well as he can and stop worrying about who gets the credit for starting. Almost like he's saying, "let the coaches use me how they want to... I'll do my best."

We're all probably reading too much into what he said, actually. He probably just meant that he doesn't know how the coaches will use him and if he doesn't get the start, then big deal.
 

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BigDFan5;2160933 said:
Or could it be that you are reading into his comment what you WANT them to mean seeing as you dont like Roy


How can you reading into something? When he flat out said it?

Does that quote sound like something a confident person would say?

Your taking something and twisting it to make it seem like it wasn't the way it was meant to be said
 

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I don't think Roy is smart enough to say stuff subtly honestly..... If he doens't have confidence 'hell just say it. Or did we miss the I hope teams don't throw to me comment
 

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AsthmaField;2160936 said:
Some of that is difficult to argue. However, to me it sounded as if he is simply sick of analysis in the media and is in a frame of mind where he's thinking that the best thing is to simply play as well as he can and stop worrying about who gets the credit for starting. Almost like he's saying, "let the coaches use me how they want to... I'll do my best."

We're all probably reading too much into what he said, actually. He probably just meant that he doesn't know how the coaches will use him and if he doesn't get the start, then big deal.

Perhaps. I am sure he is tired of the whole ordeal. No question.

I know I am tired of talking about Roy William's state of mind. He's high maintenance and comments like this show he's not your average personality. He has to be managed. And perhaps Campo can do it. But yes, reading into his comments now is rather pointless. It just promotes strife.

I'd rather wait until he plays again so we can see if his magic jersey works.
 

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FaithInWade01;2160938 said:
How can you reading into something? When he flat out said it?

Does that quote sound like something a confident person would say?

Your taking something and twisting it to make it seem like it wasn't the way it was meant to be said

He has not flat out said any of the BS you made up buddy.

You should just contnue to skip over my posts until you are able to be coherent
 

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FaithInWade01;2160932 said:
I just never knew people took Roy Williams so personally.

As if this guy has been wrongly blamed/accused.

That has really bewildered me


Bro, look... you were making all sorts of leaps of logic to get to some wild conclusion that Roy doesn't even care if he plays anymore. As if he thinks he should be cut or something.

You were flirting with the lunatic fringe and in this forum, you will be brought back to center very quickly when you lose sight of reality.

Nothing against you but your reasoning has been severely left of center in this entire thread.

Don't be surprised you got called on it.

Speaking for myself... I'm not even sold that Roy is that good of a player anymore... but your posts were just absurd.
 
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