Roy Williams - "If I start, I start. If I don't, I don't."

[FaithInWade01]

He has not flat out said any of the BS you made up buddy.

You should just contnue to skip over my posts until you are able to be coherent

If you look anything like that man in your avatar, i think i will continue skipping through your posts

 

[AsthmaField]

I'd rather wait until he plays again so we can see if his magic jersey works.

Yeah, I'm sick of talking about him too. I'm just ready to see if he's the old Roy or not.

If the coaches use him correctly, then even though he's the same guy as last year... we very well could all be sitting here praising his miraculous turn around.

Afterall... perception is reality. Particularly here.

 

[Alexander]

Bro, look... you were making all sorts of leaps of logic to get to some wild conclusion that Roy doesn't even care if he plays anymore. As if he thinks he should be cut or something.

Roy Williams has never been a football first person. One of the big issues with him when he was drafted was that he made comments that he only wanted to play five years or something. And this was before he announced that football took a backseat in his life as he has reiterated in recent months.

I wouldn't be shocked at all if he didn't care. He's never really shown much passion about football to begin with so it wasn't like he had a ton of passion to lose.

 

[monkey]

How can you reading into something? When he flat out said it?

Does that quote sound like something a confident person would say?

Your taking something and twisting it to make it seem like it wasn't the way it was meant to be said

I am no Roy Williams lover after this past year, but you are just being ridiculous.

You are the one twisting it into saying something else than what he said. It is something that a team player is going to say, whether they are confident in their abilities or not. I guess you would prefer it if Roy was talking about how the defense wasn't made for him to play well. He really can't win no matter what he says.

Maybe you are running for CowboysZone Armchair Psychoanalyst?

 

[AsthmaField]

Roy Williams has never been a football first person. One of the big issues with him when he was drafted was that he made comments that he only wanted to play five years or something. And this was before he announced that football took a backseat in his life as he has reiterated in recent months.

I wouldn't be shocked at all if he didn't care. He's never really shown much passion about football to begin with so it wasn't like he had a ton of passion to lose.

True and I understand that logic... however, his quotes in this article do not mean that he is at that point.

Had posters said they wouldn't be surprised if he was about done with football and his passion for it... I wouldn't have had any problems with it. I do when they say his quotes mean that's what he is saying.

It doesn't mean anything one way or the other.

The only thing I personally took from his quotes was that he's sick of talking about it and just want's the chips to fall where they may.

 

[AsthmaField]

Maybe you are running for CowboysZone Armchair Psychoanalyst?

:laugh2:

Comfortably in the lead, I might add.

 

[gimmesix]

"If I start, I start. If I don't, I don't," Williams said. "Whatever helps the team in the best situation, then they'll use me. If not, then somebody is better than me. I'm okay with that. The whole common goal is to win."

It seems that some are stopping after reading the first part of this quote and drawing a conclusion about Williams' mindset.

They are missing out on him saying that he wants to do what is best for the team, not what's necessarily best for himself. He wants to do whatever it takes to win.

Keep every part of the quote in context and I don't see how this can be taken as a negative. Take the first part out of context and it's easy to draw the conclusion that Williams doesn't care, has no fire, etc.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with realizing that another player might be better than you at something and realizing that it might be better for the team to use that player in certain situations. That's certainly better than players who refuse to recognize such things and cause problems for the team because of their egos.

 

[AsthmaField]

It seems that some are stopping after reading the first part of this quote and drawing a conclusion about Williams' mindset.

They are missing out on him saying that he wants to do what is best for the team, not what's necessarily best for himself. He wants to do whatever it takes to win.

Keep every part of the quote in context and I don't see how this can be taken as a negative. Take the first part out of context and it's easy to draw the conclusion that Williams doesn't care, has no fire, etc.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with realizing that another player might be better than you at something and realizing that it might be better for the team to use that player in certain situations. That's certainly better than players who refuse to recognize such things and cause problems for the team because of their egos.

You're probably right.

 

[xpistofer]

I agree a former all pro and 5 time pro bowler saying he will do whatever the team asks to help the team win annoys me too.

Selfless players bug the **** out of me

 

[dcfanatic]

Between this thread and the thread on Wade's "Get your ring finger ready"... I guess you're a fan of "no comment", huh?

I am a fan of don't give them anything that can be seen as being weak minded, being too cocky for your own good, being goofy or being someone who really doesn't care what happens with the team because it's just a game.

I know it doesn't come off with me all the time, but I just want the Roy Williams I used to cheer on every Sunday back out there playing football.

I don't think the old Roy would be talking about a scenario where he wasn't the best at his position and therefore isn't the starter. For whatever reason the man has changed and it sucks.

 

[dcfanatic]

You won't get a response.

Exactly, these Roy guys are so irrational it's not even funny.

No one is allowed to even go near the guy with a neg comment anymore or they all come in like a swarm of bees.

That mindset that Roy has that's been talked about is not healthy for a 'Pro Bowl' player who is on the hot seat.

He's not admitting defeat, but he sure isn't standing tall and letting the world know he is ready for battle either.

I spoke to Grizz earlier tonight and said something that IMO hit the nail on the head, Roy seems like he has become a pod person.

 

[dcfanatic]

ummm Marion Barber you ****ing dolt

LOL. You honestly think he's going to be saying that after playing for 6 years in the league and playing in some Pro Bowls?

The two men are in complete different situations.

 

[dcfanatic]

You haven't heard plenty of players say things like, "All I can do is play as hard as I can and let the chips fall where they may"?

"It's up to the coaches, All I can do is keep working"?

Alex, I know you've heard that plenty of times before. You (nor anyone) should need a direct quote for that.

I will give you one right now.

Brett Favre. That guy is like 'You want me to be backup?"

To that he says go **** yourself.

That's the attitude I want from him. I don't neccessarily want him to say it to the media, but I want him to feel it in his gut.

 

[dcfanatic]

It seems that some are stopping after reading the first part of this quote and drawing a conclusion about Williams' mindset.

They are missing out on him saying that he wants to do what is best for the team, not what's necessarily best for himself. He wants to do whatever it takes to win.

Keep every part of the quote in context and I don't see how this can be taken as a negative. Take the first part out of context and it's easy to draw the conclusion that Williams doesn't care, has no fire, etc.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with realizing that another player might be better than you at something and realizing that it might be better for the team to use that player in certain situations. That's certainly better than players who refuse to recognize such things and cause problems for the team because of their egos.

LOL. Yeah take out the parts you don't want to hear, that's the plan.

 

[dargonking999]

I will give you one right now.

Brett Favre. That guy is like 'You want me to be backup?"

To that he says go **** yourself.

That's the attitude I want from hear. I don't neccessarily want him to say it to the media, but I want him to feel it in his gut.

Lets see

A legendary QB, bound for the HOF, record holder for mutliple passing records, and a SB champ doesn't want to be a backup, and your comparing that to a 5 year player? Seriously?

Come on now

 

[AsthmaField]

Exactly, these Roy guys are so irrational it's not even funny.

No one is allowed to even go near the guy with a neg comment anymore or they all come in like a swarm of bees.

That mindset that Roy has that's been talked about is not healthy for a 'Pro Bowl' player who is on the hot seat.

He's not admitting defeat, but he sure isn't standing tall and letting the world know he is ready for battle either.

I spoke to Grizz earlier tonight and said something that IMO hit the nail on the head, Roy seems like he has become a pod person.

Negative comment? No problem. Roy isn't very good in coverage. Roy doesn't play with the same fire as he used to. Roy doesn't hit like he used to very often. His passion for the game seems to be going away. He is overpaid for what he does. He's too limited. He is just a situational player now, IMO.

How's that. And I feel each and every one is true.

That still doesn't change the fact that what he said in this article isn't negative and you (and some other's) are reading into it what you think he means... not what he's saying.

You are making leaps of logic that most people would laugh at.

Like you know what is "healthy" for a pro bowl player to be thinking.

A POD person? Care to elaborate?

 

[AsthmaField]

I will give you one right now.

Brett Favre. That guy is like 'You want me to be backup?"

To that he says go **** yourself.

That's the attitude I want from him. I don't neccessarily want him to say it to the media, but I want him to feel it in his gut.

Please. A backup QB who never sees the field but is a future hall of famer is hardly a pro bowl safety who won't get upset because he doesn't play in the nickel and the team starts in that formation.

That just shows how much you're reaching in you're hate for Roy Williams.

 

[dcfanatic]

Negative comment? No problem. Roy isn't very good in coverage. Roy doesn't play with the same fire as he used to. Roy doesn't hit like he used to very often. His passion for the game seems to be going away. He is overpaid for what he does. He's too limited. He is just a situational player now, IMO.

How's that. And I feel each and every one is true.

That still doesn't change the fact that what he said in this article isn't negative and you (and some other's) are reading into it what you think he means... not what he's saying.

You are making leaps of logic that most people would laugh at.

Like you know what is "healthy" for a pro bowl player to be thinking.

A POD person? Care to elaborate?

I know what I don't want to hear from a Pro Bowl player and that's the idea of losing his starting job isn't a big deal.

Pod Person. You can't figure that out?

 

[gimmesix]

LOL. Yeah take out the parts you don't want to hear, that's the plan.

No, the plan is to look completely at what the man is saying instead of jumping to conclusions.

Your admitted "problem" is that you see any statement like this as an admission of weakness. That's your perspective. It doesn't mean that it's Roy's, and I'd say from past statements by him, it's certainly not.

When he says something like this, your conclusion on what it means and his probably are not the same thing.

Look at the whole quote for what it says instead of what you think it says. ... And I don't mean that as an insult.

 

[dallasfaniac]

You would think some people would have learned after taking Wade's comments out of context and now this. Does anyone know what Roy was asked or if he just said these things unprompted?