Rules on Eligibility Reporting

[Starstruck22]

I agree, there was some horrendous calls in the game, but this is about the end of the game egregious call

It was the cleanest called game I have seen all year.

 

[McKDaddy]

That is assuming that decker reported. No proof of that whatsoever. All we have is 58 and 68 standing by the ref. (which is by design to confuse and no other purpose) are you really telling me that decker reported and that brad allen is so stupid that when he acknowledged skupper reporting he did not clarify? This make no sense and fabricated.

Why is it so hard to fathom that the ref could have made a mistake yet easy to believe that Detroit had no idea who was to be the eligible player?

 

[ConstantReboot]

So much talky talk about this, so little of it citing the rules.

Here's an article, unfortunately from 2015.
https://www.footballzebras.com/2015/01/everything-you-need-to-know-about-eligibility-reporting/
I haven't seen *anyone* mention this yet:
The referee will make an announcement of the ineligible player who is reporting, then signal by sweeping his hands vertically in front of his chest (as if “erasing” the number) and point to the newly eligible player.

I'm not in the mood to check the video on this right now, but it would be a double check on the Ref's *intention* of reporting 70 as eligible.

Here's the 2023 NFL Operations Manual. Doesn't really say much. I think there is a more detailed NFL rulebook that expands on the rules with scenarios.
https://operations.nfl.com/media/tvglh0mx/2023-rulebook_final.pdf

While they're at it, they should also review the fumble-in-the-end-zone rule. It's stupid to give the ball to the opponent when you're already at the one-yard line just because of a fumble.

 

[Dhragon]

I hate the officiating this year. This was one of the few games I saw absolutely nothing egregious.

You do NOT think the tripping call on Hendershot when it was clearly the Lions defender was egregious? (The Lions player kicked his legs out like he was doing jumping jacks) This muffed call on the wrong player/team went from Cowboys ball on the 10 to 15 yard line to 1st and 25 around the 40 or 45 yard line. Sounds egregious to me

 

[viman96]

Detroit also made a mistake sending 3 lineman to the Ref.

A former NFL Ref talking with Troy and Buck after the game said it was not an issue with 2 players reporting as eligible.

Is there a rule about 3 players talking to the Ref? If so then I'm not aware of that.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'll believe what I seen myself with my own eyes, common sense, and what the coaches, and players that played the game with their analysis over some guy with conspiracy theories about how its was all planned by Campbell to confuse the refs..

You can believe whatever you want. You can believe that all the national pundits agree with you or whatever.

I think you might ask yourself why should anyone care when you cannot back up what you claim and then you just waffle around the subject throwing crap at the wall.

There is no recording of what was said amongst the several players in speaking range of the ref but we can clearly hear him say "70 is eligible" when he ran away from them.'

Then none of 70, 68, Campbell or anyone else did a thing to fix it when they easily could have.

 

[Dhragon]

While they're at it, they should also review the fumble-in-the-end-zone rule. It's stupid to give the ball to the opponent when you're already at the one-yard line just because of a fumble.

Especially out at the 20 yard line.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You do NOT think the tripping call on Hendershot when it was clearly the Lions defender was egregious? (The Lions player kicked his legs out like he was doing jumping jacks) This muffed call on the wrong player/team went from Cowboys ball on the 10 to 15 yard line to 1st and 25 around the 40 or 45 yard line. Sounds egregious to me

It was an awful crew.

 

[Starstruck22]

You do NOT think the tripping call on Hendershot when it was clearly the Lions defender was egregious? (The Lions player kicked his legs out like he was doing jumping jacks) This muffed call on the wrong player/team went from Cowboys ball on the 10 to 15 yard line to 1st and 25 around the 40 or 45 yard line. Sounds egregious to me

Is that all you have when parsons has been held all year long and nothing called? It hate officials but this game was an exception.

 

[pentatwirl]

70 knew the play they were running when he ran in to tell 68, that's who he went up to.

If that's true, then 68 did not know to report eligible for his special play before the ref had already turned and left.

 

[Praxit]

3 lions reported to the ref before the play.

Jumbo package.

..it appeared that way.

 

[Starstruck22]

Why is it so hard to fathom that the ref could have made a mistake yet easy to believe that Detroit had no idea who was to be the eligible player?

I can fathom a lot of things. But the facts remain. Skipper clearly reported to brad allen And he pointed to skipper. And did decker say to brad allen wait a second not skipper me? It was right in front of him for gods sake. Lets be sentient human beings for a moment

 

[Starstruck22]

It was an awful crew.

no proof

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

no proof

opinions do not require proof. if you want to have a different take on them I am fine with that.

 

[Dhragon]

Is that all you have when parsons has been held all year long and nothing called? It hate officials but this game was an exception.

I am guessing you have not read through the thread on this. I also did not know about it until after the game because they did not show a replay on that play on TV. But if you have time read that thread and see the pics posted. A real game changer calling the wrong team for a big 15 yard penalty in that situation. If you did and still do not think it was an extremely bad call that effected the game, we will just have to be in disagreement on that.

And yes, the Parson's lack of holding calls have been outrageous as well, no argument from me on that.

 

[Silverz1972]

The tv ref john parry kinda worried me that he didn’t know they you can only have 6 eligible.

 

[Hoofbite]

IT DOESNT *** MATTER IT WAS AN ILLEGAL FORMATION ANYWAYS!!!!

It does matter because the formation is illegal only if it’s 70 designated. If it’s 68, it’s not an illegal formation.

 

[McKDaddy]

I can fathom a lot of things. But the facts remain. Skipper clearly reported to brad allen And he pointed to skipper. And did decker say to brad allen wait a second not skipper me? It was right in front of him for gods sake. Lets be sentient human beings for a moment

you mean be clairvoyant to know what Allen would say until it was announced? at that point isn't the play clock running and weren't they out of timeouts? Correcting it isn't quite as easy as if that is the case wouldn't you agree?

When you say right in front of him, you do realize the ref sprinted away from 58 & 68? They didn't walk away from him & 70 never even got there.

As I said multiple times last night, whatever mistakes Detroit may have made (formation, etc.) isn't the point. It's a simple question of did the ref make a mistake. The immediate reactions last night & continued discussion today strongly indicates that a lot of folks found the whole situation to be questionable.

 

[Starstruck22]

So here is what you doubters that Campbell is a cheat want us to believe:
1)the three offensive linemen were doing acid and did not know what they were doing
2)the head official is doing lsd and does not know what he is doing or hearing
3)dan Campbell took acid before the game

you can believe all of that or apply Occam’s razor which is 70 reported, brand allen acknowledged and that it was all orchestrated by Campbell to cheat for the win. most parsimonious and with the most empirical evidence. No confusion at all and no acid.

 

[bigE79]

Rex is a jerk. What he cannot explain is why 70 came in off the bench from speaking with coach and patted his chest to say Im the guy. Im eligible. If the refs are wrong, why did he do that? It makes absolutely no sense. He runs over to the refs by the way as well as if reporting. This was an play orchestrated to trick the refs, knowing there was a possibility they give them the score due to confusion created by Detroit and the only downside would be a 5 yard penalty and replay down if it did not work. All crafted cheating all disgusting to me.

Shenanigans by Detroit definitely backfired