RUMOR: Glenn and Jerry reach contract agreement!

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Hostile;2130864 said:
Off topic but I miss LaTuna Nostra. Every time I read about Glenn, I think of her.

Where is she? I know that she doesn't post alot in the offseason, but this is unusually long for her.
 

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AdamJT13;2130813 said:
Most of these things (some obscure radio station reporting something that apparently only one person hears) turn out to be false.

By "1460 WSBN," I assume he means 1460 WBNS in Columbus, Ohio (Terry Glenn went to Ohio State). And by "Michael Ricardi," I assume he means Mike Ricordati, one of the hosts for that station.

Maybe Glenn gave the scoop to some radio guy he knows back in Columbus, but I doubt it. He'd probably just shoot Clarence Hill another text message -- "750 G. Going 2 sign Monday! TYL!!"

Cap genius and hip!! :D
 

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cowboyfan4life_mark;2130884 said:
Where is she? I know that she doesn't post alot in the offseason, but this is unusually long for her.

Probably at the Miami Dolphins board. And that's not meant as a slight, as I think she was more of a Parcells fan than a Cowboys fan... but I could be wrong.
 

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Disturbed;2130811 said:
Too bad. Another ******** moment for Jerry. :eek:

Should have cut ties and saved the roster spot for a younger player who will contribute in more ways and more than one play a game, if that.:mad:


If this is true.... there is NO REASON to not like this news. Not one.

We have minimized our risk with his injury. We have maximized our gain if he is healthy.

The only thing that even approaches a valid reason for not liking this is the fact that we may have to cut a developmental WR. But if Hurd and/or Austin aren't progressed enough going into their 3rd seasons to earn a roster spot over -- according to the TG haters -- a WR who has nothing, a tapped out career #3 WR, a 4th round project WR, and some undrafted free agents, they don't deserve a spot on this squad.

If they can't get it done over those guys for 3 or 4 spots, then they're not meant to be here. You can whine and cry about Glenn taking a roster spot from Hurd or Austin, but at least if he's healthy we will know he can produce. With Hurd and Austin we've seen flashes, but no real production. I'm to the point where I could not care less if these guys get cut, because it only means they haven't cashed in on their 2 seasons and 3 training camps of chances to solidify themselves on this team.
 

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Idgit;2130814 said:
There's not a young WR on the roster capable of contributing on the level of Terry Glenn. What bottom-roster player conceivably has TGs upside under any circumstance? This is hugely good news for the Cowboys, if it's true.


atleast the young players can actually play 16 games.
 

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peplaw06;2130891 said:
If this is true.... there is NO REASON to not like this news. Not one.

We have minimized our risk with his injury. We have maximized our gain if he is healthy.

The only thing that even approaches a valid reason for not liking this is the fact that we may have to cut a developmental WR. But if Hurd and/or Austin aren't progressed enough going into their 3rd seasons to earn a roster spot over -- according to the TG haters -- a WR who has nothing, a tapped out career #3 WR, a 4th round project WR, and some undrafted free agents, they don't deserve a spot on this squad.

If they can't get it done over those guys for 3 or 4 spots, then they're not meant to be here. You can whine and cry about Glenn taking a roster spot from Hurd or Austin, but at least if he's healthy we will know he can produce. With Hurd and Austin we've seen flashes, but no real production. I'm to the point where I could not care less if these guys get cut, because it only means they haven't cashed in on their 2 seasons and 3 training camps of chances to solidify themselves on this team.
But we don't even have to get rid of one of them... Terry was on the roster all last year, even if it didn't seem like it. :)

Now Danny Amendola and the like, they may have to hit the road. (Or practice squad.)

But you're right, I can't understand why anyone wouldn't want Terry on the team this year. Some people just don't appreciate how good he is.
 

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Idgit;2130814 said:
There's not a young WR on the roster capable of contributing on the level of Terry Glenn. What bottom-roster player conceivably has TGs upside under any circumstance? This is hugely good news for the Cowboys, if it's true.

There is some potential for some guys to step up and be really good players in this league but I do agree none of them will be as good as Terry Glenn this year if healthy.

Hostile;2130864 said:
Off topic but I miss LaTuna Nostra. Every time I read about Glenn, I think of her.

Latuna Nostra is one of my favorite usernames on this board.

Maybe shes still pissed about the playoff loss or something.
 

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Hostile;2130870 said:
If he can go it makes Crayton an incredibly dangerous #3 WR.

If TG is able to play..I don't think he plays as the #2/,more like the #3/2a.

I can't see Dallas doing anything more than trying to split receptions as the #3 WR and keep him as a wide WR when he enters the game to avoid the hits with multiple coverages across the middle.

Meaning Crayton does go back to the slot when TG is out there or we add a 2nd. TE instead of Crayton.

I just have to really wonder how really useful TG is going to be. If the team and the player are concerned with his knee and how it will hold up, I just see his routes being adjusted to where he doesn't do the quick slants for fear of high-low tackles and becomes more or less a guy for slants further downfield and deep flys.

Deep posts, maybe. But again, quick change of pace routes are going to be a problem.

I say all this because I've had similar issues with my left knee over the years. Broke the knee cap playing HS football and then tore the ligaments and tore the cartilage in it again the next season playing HS basketball since football was out of the question.

Had 2 operations within 2 seasons and quickly developed arthritis in the knee early in my 20's. From that point on, played tennis and golf and now down to golf only.

With each situation, my ability to cut, accelerate and cut again were less and less. My straight ahead speed was always fine, but planting and moving put stress on it, it would swell and I'd be out for a week or have to have it drained, etc.

Not saying a professional athlete and today's surgery and rehab isn't a whole 'nother world to my day, but TG is in his mid-30's.

I'm of the opinion that it's just a matter of anytime he is re-injured and done for his career. I really think he's already done, knowing what I know about such injuries and his age.

I just don't think we will see the same TG when he steps out on the field as we remember before and anything less makes him very average or even less so.

The very fact that he will be trying to not injure it and try to extend his season so he can collect his full salary makes me concerned about his effectiveness. That's not to slight TG.

It's just human nature to do what you have to do to get what is needed..the money.

It will be always what is in the back of his mind, has been since he signed last year and even when he was injured last summer. He talked the team in to leaving him active in the hopes of his recovery when the Cowboys should have just termed him PUP and gotten another WR to replace him.

I'm sure by staying active, it helped his payments stay unaffected instead of PUP. Especially if the team got the the playoffs and they won a SB..he'd get the bonuses.

TG is playing this out for the money..not because he wants to be a part of a SB team necessarily. Both would be great..but it's 'show me the money' right now and has been for sometime.

Me, I'm not like some fans that say 80% of TG is better than 100% of Hurd or Austin or Stanbach or another vet WR.

That's wishful thinking. I'd rather we let our younger players get the game snaps and let's see what we have this season and just not get caught up in trying to depend on TG at all.

Regardless, we are going to need to look at getting another WR next year and I think at this point, we absolutely have to know what we have on the roster now before we go shopping in the draft or making a big trade for an expensive FA.

We'll see. But that's my 2 cents.

:starspin ReDBaLL ExPreSS :starspin
 

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Two quotes that that sums up TGs' importance and signifigance to this team...

"I think Terry Glenn's going to surprise a lot of you guys," Romo said. "He has as much physical ability on the football field as maybe anybody I've seen.
"He's not the strongest, most physical guy in the world, but what he doesn't have there, he's probably the best at in everything else. His quickness, his ability to get in and out of breaks, his ability to sense things and get in the right positions is really special."

"We were a great tandem," Owens said. "I don't know what his status is, but when Terry's healthy, he's one of the best receivers out there. When we lost him at beginning of year, it took two or three guys to do what he did, to fill that void, so that goes to show you how good Terry is."
 

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Disturbed;2130816 said:
Glenn should have been cut a year ago (not given the big deal due to his age and past injury history). We should have used that money to get a real #2 WR or other player needed at the time.

Now, that might have been a good idea last year had we been able to pull down a very good receiver, but I just think that since there appears to be no viable solutions this year, we are much better off with him on the roster.
 

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If this was a 5 to 8 win team in 2007, I'd say forget Glenn.
But this is a SB team.
Even if the chances of Glenn avoiding a season ending set back with the repaired knee are less than 50/50, we have to roll with it.

He presents too much upside in such a critical year.

Besides we have a whole training camp to get through. The projected 6 at this point would be Owens, Glenn, Crayton, Hurd, Miles and Stanback.

Do we have a 7th that's that good? Is that Amendoa guy that valuable?

If he is he'll earn a spot, or more likely one opf the top 6 goes down.
 

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Redball Express;2130910 said:
If TG is able to play..I don't think he plays as the #2/,more like the #3/2a.

I can't see Dallas doing anything more than trying to split receptions as the #3 WR and keep him as a wide WR when he enters the game to avoid the hits with multiple coverages across the middle.

Meaning Crayton does go back to the slot when TG is out there or we add a 2nd. TE instead of Crayton.

I just have to really wonder how really useful TG is going to be. If the team and the player are concerned with his knee and how it will hold up, I just see his routes being adjusted to where he doesn't do the quick slants for fear of high-low tackles and becomes more or less a guy for slants further downfield and deep flys.

Deep posts, maybe. But again, quick change of pace routes are going to be a problem.

I say all this because I've had similar issues with my left knee over the years. Broke the knee cap playing HS football and then tore the ligaments and tore the cartilage in it again the next season playing HS basketball since football was out of the question.

Had 2 operations within 2 seasons and quickly developed arthritis in the knee early in my 20's. From that point on, played tennis and golf and now down to golf only.

With each situation, my ability to cut, accelerate and cut again were less and less. My straight ahead speed was always fine, but planting and moving put stress on it, it would swell and I'd be out for a week or have to have it drained, etc.

Not saying a professional athlete and today's surgery and rehab isn't a whole 'nother world to my day, but TG is in his mid-30's.

I'm of the opinion that it's just a matter of anytime he is re-injured and done for his career. I really think he's already done, knowing what I know about such injuries and his age.

I just don't think we will see the same TG when he steps out on the field as we remember before and anything less makes him very average or even less so.

The very fact that he will be trying to not injure it and try to extend his season so he can collect his full salary makes me concerned about his effectiveness. That's not to slight TG.

It's just human nature to do what you have to do to get what is needed..the money.

It will be always what is in the back of his mind, has been since he signed last year and even when he was injured last summer. He talked the team in to leaving him active in the hopes of his recovery when the Cowboys should have just termed him PUP and gotten another WR to replace him.

I'm sure by staying active, it helped his payments stay unaffected instead of PUP. Especially if the team got the the playoffs and they won a SB..he'd get the bonuses.

TG is playing this out for the money..not because he wants to be a part of a SB team necessarily. Both would be great..but it's 'show me the money' right now and has been for sometime.

Me, I'm not like some fans that say 80% of TG is better than 100% of Hurd or Austin or Stanbach or another vet WR.

That's wishful thinking. I'd rather we let our younger players get the game snaps and let's see what we have this season and just not get caught up in trying to depend on TG at all.

Regardless, we are going to need to look at getting another WR next year and I think at this point, we absolutely have to know what we have on the roster now before we go shopping in the draft or making a big trade for an expensive FA.

We'll see. But that's my 2 cents.

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I agree 100% Glenn will only be used sparingly and only see about 35% of the offensive play snaps. From your experience, would a knee brace absorb some of the shock on the knee from planting, making cuts, and taking impact?
 

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Idgit;2130814 said:
There's not a young WR on the roster capable of contributing on the level of Terry Glenn. What bottom-roster player conceivably has TGs upside under any circumstance? This is hugely good news for the Cowboys, if it's true.

I am not sure TG can play up to any of the young guys we have on our roster right now with the knees he is playing with. I hope I am wrong, but only if it does not mean we waste talent on the bench.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2130892 said:
atleast the young players can actually play 16 games.

Can they? I should have clarified that I meant he's better than young players who are not impervious to harm.

Terry Glenn starting for a fraction of a season is more bang for the buck than we'd get from a Danny Amendola for an entire year. He could be the difference between winning and losing home field advantage in any single game he plays in. The players believe that he's capable of performing at a probowl level. Glenn says his MRI says he's got a clean bill of health and is ready to go. There's not credible reason to think he can't start the season for us and to play at a high level.

Clearly there's a higher risk of re-injury with his knee the way it is. How do you quantify that risk? Is he twice as likely to get hurt? Three times? In terms of likelihood, he's probably as likely to get hurt someplace else as he is to re-injury his knee. And if he's comfortable with the risk he's running with the input he's got from his doctors, so am I.
 

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AdamJT13;2130813 said:
Maybe Glenn gave the scoop to some radio guy he knows back in Columbus, but I doubt it. He'd probably just shoot Clarence Hill another text message -- "750 G. Going 2 sign Monday! TYL!!"
:laugh2: :lmao: :lmao2:
 
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