Rumor: Shaneil Jenkins has knee injury

[Oh_Canada]

I get it. Some of you think I am a disgruntled butt head because I beat the dead horse on the defensive end spot. So my apologies to those who have to read my tripe. LOL.

I am just frustrated at such a half assed approach to fixing a problem that the front office admitted was a problem last year. And when given a few vet options to sure it up a bit, the front office acted like everything was fine, when, IMO, it's not.

The team drafted a de top four rounds in each of the last three drafts, added an offseason FA, drafted a DT in round three this year and signed C.Thornton it's not like they are ignoring the position.

 

[bayeslife]

The team drafted a de top four rounds in each of the last three drafts, added an offseason FA, drafted a DT in round three this year and signed C.Thornton it's not like they are ignoring the position.

We should just blow our money in FA for studs like 8 sack Vernon

 

[the_h0wey]

We should just blow our money in FA for studs like 8 sack Vernon

8 sacks playing on a DLine with Cameron Wake, and DonkeyKong Suh. Think that production will increase or decrease?

 

[big dog cowboy]

I am just frustrated at such a half assed approach to fixing a problem that the front office admitted was a problem last year.

There have been a number of FA's and draft picks spent on the DL the last 3 years.

 

[LocimusPrime]

I get it. Some of you think I am a disgruntled butt head because I beat the dead horse on the defensive end spot. So my apologies to those who have to read my tripe. LOL.

I am just frustrated at such a half assed approach to fixing a problem that the front office admitted was a problem last year. And when given a few vet options to sure it up a bit, the front office acted like everything was fine, when, IMO, it's not.

I've been reading some of the responses to your posts and I believe they don't really understand what you mean by fixing the DE spot. I agree with you.

I specifically would like the FO to spend money on a top 1-3 DE free agent or one that had double digit sacks in the last 3 years OR

Spend a high to mid first rd pick on. DE. If possible package together players and or picks to move up. I don't care about spending 3-7 th rd picks on the DE position. I don't want just bodies, and I don't want practice squad cast offs. Give me some premium ends.

Stop giving me Kias and Ford Fusions when I ask for Mercedes S550 or BMW 750 foos.

I would have signed Derek Wolf, Robert Ayers, Charles Johnson and Mario Williams this off season for cheap ( all of them had reasonable contracts) Get rid of Russell, Gregory, Mayowa, McAdoo. The funny thing is that all those dudes are actually practicing and playing and our collection I'd DEs aren't.

 

[CCBoy]

I've been reading some of the responses to your posts and I believe they don't really understand what you mean by fixing the DE spot. I agree with you.

I specifically would like the FO to spend money on a top 1-3 DE free agent or one that had double digit sacks in the last 3 years OR

Spend a high to mid first rd pick on. DE. If possible package together players and or picks to move up. I don't care about spending 3-7 th rd picks on the DE position. I don't want just bodies, and I don't want practice squad cast offs. Give me some premium ends.

Stop giving me Kias and Ford Fusions when I ask for Mercedes S550 or BMW 750 foos.

I would have signed Derek Wolf, Robert Ayers, Charles Johnson and Mario Williams this off season for cheap ( all of them had reasonable contracts) Get rid of Russell, Gregory, Mayowa, McAdoo. The funny thing is that all those dudes are actually practicing and playing and our collection I'd DEs aren't.

Sorry guy, I'm looking for a Mustang Cobra...

 

[TheCount]

8 sacks playing on a DLine with Cameron Wake, and DonkeyKong Suh. Think that production will increase or decrease?

Vernon's contract is more than I'd be willing to pay, but the only people that doubt his pass rushing skills are people who only heard of the guy when he signed his contract.

He's a good pass rusher, and you can say that was a result of Suh and Wake if you want, but he had 11.5 sacks in 2013 - before Suh showed up.

 

[Stash]

Is it too soon to mention the word....................

"Freeney"

Not at all. And feel free to use the term "told ya so" as often as you feel necessary as well.

 

[Stash]

Too late for Freeney. He's in Atlanta.

Front office botched that one.

Completely.

 

[Stash]

I get it. Some of you think I am a disgruntled butt head because I beat the dead horse on the defensive end spot. So my apologies to those who have to read my tripe. LOL.

I am just frustrated at such a half assed approach to fixing a problem that the front office admitted was a problem last year. And when given a few vet options to sure it up a bit, the front office acted like everything was fine, when, IMO, it's not.

You don't need to apologize for seeing what is, was, and continues to be a serious deficiency. If anything, the homers should be apologizing to you.

 

[Stash]

Not really.

Yes really.

 

[Stash]

There have been a number of FA's and draft picks spent on the DL the last 3 years.

And they missed. So the solution then is to stop trying or make a half-hearted effort?

 

[UTmodisette]

And they missed. So the solution then is to stop trying or make a half-hearted effort?

No, the solution is to keep plugging away at the draft so that way Dallas doesn't overpay in free agency for an average-above average pass rusher. Dallas wants to use that money on resigning our own elite players, not overpay for average players to help fill a hole. The Cedric Thornton signing is the type of contract you can expect Dallas to give out during free agency in the future.

 

[Stash]

No, the solution is to keep plugging away at the draft so that way Dallas doesn't overpay in free agency for an average-above average pass rusher. Dallas wants to use that money on resigning our own elite players, not overpay for average players to help fill a hole. The Cedric Thornton signing is the type of contract you can expect Dallas to give out during free agency in the future.

I can appreciate that approach, but given the ticking clock on the current window, I think they need to supplant it with some veteran free agents as well.

And the strategy you're speaking of isn't entirely accurate. I bet you didn't know that Dallas was actually in the running for Olivier Vernon before the bidding went sky high, but they were.

I agree about the Thornton signing. I feel that was a smart, reasonable contract for a good player and a good fit for this defense. I expect him to be a huge upgrade over Hayden.

 

[UTmodisette]

I can appreciate that approach, but given the ticking clock on the current window, I think they need to supplant it with some veteran free agents as well.

And the strategy you're speaking of isn't entirely accurate. I bet you didn't know that Dallas was actually in the running for Olivier Vernon before the bidding went sky high, but they were.

I didn't know that, but it still doesn't go against the strategy they have lined out. They have said they don't like free agency because average players get paid like they are good, and good players are paid like they are great. I'm sure Dallas would have loved to get Vernon somewhere from 10-12 million, but that was never going to happen. Dallas will never get a big free agent if they drop out when the bidding goes sky high. The last time the did that was with Carr, and I think they have learned their lesson. I think Dallas would only overpay a guy if it's on a 1 year deal.

 

[Stash]

I didn't know that, but it still doesn't go against the strategy they have lined out. They have said they don't like free agency because average players get paid like they are good, and good players are paid like they are great. I'm sure Dallas would have loved to get Vernon somewhere from 10-12 million, but that was never going to happen.

Sure it does. You're not going the "plugging away in the draft" route if you're sniffing around the top paid free agent pass rusher. And they had no problem signing Greg Hardy to an $11 million contract for last year.

Dallas will never get a big free agent if they drop out when the bidding goes sky high. The last time the did that was with Carr, and I think they have learned their lesson. I think Dallas would only overpay a guy if it's on a 1 year deal.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining that they weren't the team overpaying so much for Vernon. I applaud them for that. I think in two years' time, the Giants will regret that contract, much the same way I think the Dolphins regret Suh's deal.

What I am saying is that there isn't any 'great plan' this team has established or adhered to. They've rolled the dice in several different directions, and repeatedly come up snake eyes. And when safe bets like Dwight Freeney gave presented themselves, the team has mistakenly passed.

 

[CowboyRoy]

If your on the D-line and you are starting to show something then Injury or suspension is right around the corner.

It just shows the desperation and lack of depth of the position. We are drafting every drug addict, mentally challenged, injury prone cast off type player we can possibly find in order to try and solve the problem. Most of these guys arent solid NFL starters already for a reason. And then there is always just dumb luck playing its part. Jenkins actually showed something. Lets hope its not serious.

 

[UTmodisette]

Sure it does. You're not going the "plugging away in the draft" route if you're sniffing around the top paid free agent pass rusher. And they had no problem signing Greg Hardy to an $11 million contract for last year.

Of course the Cowboys are going to do their due diligence in free agency at a position of need. That doesn't mean they still don't have a general plan of wanting to build in the draft and plug holes in free agency with reasonable contracts. Dallas saw how the market for DE's were skyrocketing, and they backed out and went the cheap route by resigning Crawford and signing Mayowa. And I don't see how the Hardy signing goes against that plan since it was on a 1 year deal, at a reasonable price for what was expected to be a double digit sack player. Dallas just doesn't want to have to cut a guy and get stuck with dead money like they used to, and signing Greg Hardy doesn't go against that plan at all.

 

[Stash]

Of course the Cowboys are going to do their due diligence in free agency at a position of need. That doesn't mean they still don't have a general plan of wanting to build in the draft and plug holes in free agency with reasonable contracts. Dallas saw how the market for DE's were skyrocketing, and they backed out and went the cheap route by resigning Crawford and signing Mayowa. And I don't see how the Hardy signing goes against that plan since it was on a 1 year deal, at a reasonable price for what was expected to be a double digit sack player. Dallas just doesn't want to have to cut a guy and get stuck with dead money like they used to, and signing Greg Hardy doesn't go against that plan at all.

Sounds like you're twisting reality in a vain effort to shoehorn inconsistant actions into a consistant narrative. Save yourself the effort.

 

[Sydla]

The team drafted a de top four rounds in each of the last three drafts, added an offseason FA, drafted a DT in round three this year and signed C.Thornton it's not like they are ignoring the position.

As much as I consider Tapper a steal, he was a pet cat of mine, using a 4th round pick on a DE in an offseason where the front office admitted they need to upgrade the pass rush is not what I call addressing the DE position or the pass rush.

DT isn't a concern of mine. I like Crawford, McClain, Thornton and Collins.

DE is where I think we have real issues.