RUMOR: Vick to cop a plea

[fortdick]

He was probably told by his lawyers to deny. Nothing wrong with doing so in my view.

I knew you would be here to back pedal. Now it is his lawyers' fault he pleaded not guilty, eh?

You have been wrong a along and now you are trying to salvage something from it. Would have been best if you had not even posted for a while.

 

[Doomsday101]

He was probably told by his lawyers to deny. Nothing wrong with doing so in my view.

If he is going to cop a plea he better tell them everything he knows, if the prosecution thinks Vick is yanking their chain they don't have to accept his plea.

 

[Hostile]

Agreed.


On a side note. Say Vick gets banned from the NFL.

He still has made and can live off of the money he has made over the 6-7 years he has been in the NFL...in the tens of millions.

I'd turn all assests to liquid form, invest it in an interest earning account and do my time.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I don;t think the time he serves is as important as the label he will get. He is a crook. He is a liar. He will have to carry that everywhere with him. No more endorsements. Lucky if he ever plays again. You can;t really sit out a couple years and then expect to waltz in and take over a QB spot on an NFL team. It isn't like he was all that good to start wsith and without constant training and conditioning, he wouldn't be able to play his game.

Give him one year in jail, a three year suspension and be done with him. He will blow all his money intertaining his posse (the one's that didn't tell) and be broke in 10 years.

His story will be worse than Quincy Carter's.

He will not spend more then a couple million on his defense. While a great deal of money, he's going to have considerably more then that still left. You can call me all those things but give me 10 million to live on and I'm OK with that. Heck, without football, maybe I'll start up another Dog Ring. I'll certainly have the time and the money to do it again.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Agreed.


On a side note. Say Vick gets banned from the NFL.

He still has made and can live off of the money he has made over the 6-7 years he has been in the NFL...in the tens of millions.

Been reading on PFT that the Falcons can go after his signing bonus. That's 28m they could take back.

If they do, and he loses in arbitration, he may still have money, but it won't be near as long as it could've been.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Well, if he denies it, then I don't think you can say that he's showing remourse and acceptance of responsability, which is a pre-requisit if he's going to get the 8 months to a year thing.

Can't be both ways.

I'm talking about the time prior to any plea. Nothing wrong in denying guilt before that, you are basically just telling law enforcement to proves it case. You have no obligation to help them prove a case against you.

 

[kentuckycowboy]

How 'bout Leavenworth? That's no country club.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

was this a DUI where someone was killed vs. someone killing dogs for years in the most viscious ways he could think of?

on the surface yea, it's odd. in detail, well, i don't know enough of the human killing part but i don't think it's a pair of apples being compared even if different in animal vs. human.

Little was arrested for DUI previously to killing that lady by being very drunk and running a red light. After killing someone he was arrested for DUI again. Not only does he not care that he might kill people but he has killed people and still does the same thing.

He has only spent 90 days in jail and currently is on an NFL roster making a paycheck.

Michael Vick kills dogs.

He is looking at a year and a possible lifetime ban.

Hey if you want to clamor about animal cruelty more power to you but if you cannot understand how human life is more important i really do not know what to say. Youre value system at that point is so completely different than mine if that is the case.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I'm talking about the time prior to any plea. Nothing wrong in denying guilt before that, you are basically just telling law enforcement to proves it case. You have no obligation to help them prove a case against you.

That's true but then the courts have no obligation to plea down his sentance either. Fullest extent or cooperate, which ul it be?

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

I knew you would be here to back pedal. Now it is his lawyers' fault he pleaded not guilty, eh?

You have been wrong a along and now you are trying to salvage something from it. Would have been best if you had not even posted for a while.

It is sad how jealous you are of my education.

Where did I say it was his lawyers' fault he plead not guilty? I stated his lawyers probably told him to deny, it is advice we all give unless we are incompetent. The last thing you want is your client running around admitting to things that will be used against him later.

PS, if you think someone like you would cause me to stop posting, you have an overinflated opinion of yourself.

 

[Danny White]

Little was arrested for DUI previously to killing that lady by being very drunk and running a red light. After killing someone he was arrested for DUI again. Not only does he not care that he might kill people but he has killed people and still does the same thing.

He has only spent 90 days in jail and currently is on an NFL roster making a paycheck.

Michael Vick kills dogs.

He is looking at a year and a possible lifetime ban.

Hey if you want to clamor about animal cruelty more power to you but if you cannot understand how human life is more important i really do not know what to say. Youre value system at that point is so completely different than mine if that is the case.

Little deserves to be fed to Vick's dogs. He's the scum of the NFL... and that's saying something!

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

That's true but then the courts have no obligation to plea down his sentance either. Fullest extent or cooperate, which ul it be?

That is true.

Either the Feds case is not as strong as it appears or it will be too costly and open up huge cans of worms in terms of race relations/southern culture of dog fighting or whatever. There is a reason they will give him one year and a reason he will take it. Neither has a really strong case.

 

[Hoov]

That is true.

Either the Feds case is not as strong as it appears or it will be too costly and open up huge cans of worms in terms of race relations/southern culture of dog fighting or whatever. There is a reason they will give him one year and a reason he will take it. Neither has a really strong case.

good point.

 

[5Stars]

So, I guess if he does plea bargain, this "clears up his good name"?

 

[Hoov]

Regarding lying....

If i am the type of person to commit a crime in the first place, then evidence is pointed to my involvement, of course i am going to lie my pants off to try to get out of paying for it. What have i got to lose, so then if i eventually plead guilty or "come clean" there is not going to be much more of a penalty for lying about my involvement (im not talking about lying in court), except that some people will call me a liar, but in comparison to what i am already going to endure or go through for comitting the crime - what is the big deal if pople call me a liar on top of that.

If i commited a crime, i would lie about doing it all the way until my sentence is announced, and even then i might lie and say i was unjustly accused, unless i was caught redhanded.

 

[BigDFan5]

Agreed.


On a side note. Say Vick gets banned from the NFL.

He still has made and can live off of the money he has made over the 6-7 years he has been in the NFL...in the tens of millions.

As soon as he is suspended by the NFL the falcons have a right to file a claim to have his signing bonus returned to them. That number is around 28 million dollars they can recoup leaving Vick alot less happy

 

[5Stars]

Regarding lying....

If i am the type of person to commit a crime in the first place, then evidence is pointed to my involvement, of course i am going to lie my pants off to try to get out of paying for it. What have i got to lose, so then if i eventually plead guilty or "come clean" there is not going to be much more of a penalty for lying about my involvement (im not talking about lying in court), except that some people will call me a liar, but in comparison to what i am already going to endure or go through for comitting the crime - what is the big deal if pople call me a liar on top of that.

If i commited a crime, i would lie about doing it all the way until my sentence is announced, and even then i might lie and say i was unjustly accused, unless i was caught redhanded.

Yeah, but you like to dress up like a woman!!

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Little was arrested for DUI previously to killing that lady by being very drunk and running a red light. After killing someone he was arrested for DUI again. Not only does he not care that he might kill people but he has killed people and still does the same thing.

He has only spent 90 days in jail and currently is on an NFL roster making a paycheck.

Michael Vick kills dogs.

He is looking at a year and a possible lifetime ban.

Hey if you want to clamor about animal cruelty more power to you but if you cannot understand how human life is more important i really do not know what to say. Youre value system at that point is so completely different than mine if that is the case.

This is skewed IMO. I agree with your stance on Little 100%. There is no way in the world he should be in the position he is in today but times have changed and laws have changed. It the same thing happened today, Little would pay more dearly. It's unfortunate that he has skated so free on this, no question. However, that does not mean that because Little skated, Vick's transgretions should also be treated in the same unjust maner. Perhaps I am reading something into your note that is not there. If so, I'm sorry.

 

[aikemirv]

I have to ask. What type of Gambling is not allowed by NFL players?

All? Can they not go into a casino?

Can they not bet on a horse race?

 

[Doomsday101]

Little was arrested for DUI previously to killing that lady by being very drunk and running a red light. After killing someone he was arrested for DUI again. Not only does he not care that he might kill people but he has killed people and still does the same thing.

He has only spent 90 days in jail and currently is on an NFL roster making a paycheck.

Michael Vick kills dogs.

He is looking at a year and a possible lifetime ban.

Hey if you want to clamor about animal cruelty more power to you but if you cannot understand how human life is more important i really do not know what to say. Youre value system at that point is so completely different than mine if that is the case.

I agree but 2 wrongs don't make it right. Little got off easy and should have paid a much bigger price both in court and in the NFL. Tag was the commissioner at the time and let little off pretty easy. Times are different and a new commissioner is in place and is not going to tolerate these criminal activities any longer.