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That more like 100% IMO. Other wise you have to pay a RB way too much guaranteed money teams don't like to do that because RBs spend so much time on injured reserve.

Some team, like Miami, might love him irrationally.
He IS really good.

Honestly, I think Dallas might be publically leaving open the possibly of Zeka at 4 so they can get an overeager team to trade up with SD.
That lets Dallas' choice drop into their lap.
Then again. maybe not.
 

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Not sure who Dallas will pick but they won't trade down.

Most likely bosa.
 

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Not sure who Dallas will pick but they won't trade down.

Most likely bosa.

I don't think it's Bosa, unless they do trade down. They really seem underwhelmed by him...maybe a smokescreen, but they haven't been doing that much lately.
 

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Some team, like Miami, might love him irrationally.
He IS really good.

Honestly, I think Dallas might be publically leaving open the possibly of Zeka at 4 so they can get an overeager team to trade up with SD.
That lets Dallas' choice drop into their lap.
Then again. maybe not.

Irrationally is a good word for it because its completely irrational to give up picks and have to pay the kind of guaranteed money they would have to at 3. In fact its so irrational the GM should get fired. Same could be said for taking him at 4 totally irrational.
 

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I actually want them to draft Ramsey because I want him. Yes, it is as odd as it sounds. Reason being, Zeke gives us a better chance to win now. I would hate to pass up on Ramsey and then look back at it a few years from now. If San Diego takes him, I'll be comfortable in the future that we did not pass up on him.
 

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I actually want them to draft Ramsey because I want him. Yes, it is as odd as it sounds. Reason being, Zeke gives us a better chance to win now. I would hate to pass up on Ramsey and then look back at it a few years from now. If San Diego takes him, I'll be comfortable in the future that we did not pass up on him.


I don't see how Zeke gives us any more production than McFadden n Morris. Contrary to popular belief Zekes not going to run for 2000 yrs. He will most likely put up the same numbers that Gurley did last year about 230 carries n 1100 yrds McFadden did that last yr. I just don't get it.
 

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I don't see how Zeke gives us any more production than McFadden n Morris. Contrary to popular belief Zekes not going to run for 2000 yrs. He will most likely put up the same numbers that Gurley did last year about 230 carries n 1100 yrds McFadden did that last yr. I just don't get it.

If you don't get it, that probably can't be helped at this point.
 

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I don't see how Zeke gives us any more production than McFadden n Morris. Contrary to popular belief Zekes not going to run for 2000 yrs. He will most likely put up the same numbers that Gurley did last year about 230 carries n 1100 yrds McFadden did that last yr. I just don't get it.

One thing I can guarantee is that he would have more rushing TD's than both of them. McFadden had 3 in 2015, finishing behind Joe Randle who was released early in the season. Alfred Morris had 1 in 2015.

Scoring points is important in the League and Dallas' rushing game dropped considerably in that category from 2014 to 2015. Anyone who states otherwise is wrong.

Elliott instantly will score more AND have more yards rushing than what McFadden or Morris will provide based on their very recent history. He also would have more receiving yards than what both provided last season. I wish the fallacy of the running game last season being just as efficient as 2014 would please stop.
 

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An interesting note about Ramsey is that the Chargers didn't even bring him to town for a visit. Could be nothing, but that seems like something to me. Especially since they did bring both Buckner and Tunsil in for visits. In fact, walter football only has them as having a meeting with him at the combine.
 
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An interesting note about Ramsey is that the Chargers didn't even bring him to town for a visit. Could be nothing, but that seems like something to me. Especially since they did bring both Buckner and Tunsil in for visits. In fact, walter football only has them as having a meeting with him at the combine.

Valuable nugget of information. Thanks ROH88.
 

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Logical and makes good sense. But Ramsey has to be attractive to them. They already have King so they're not hurting for a LT. RT is kinda weak so perhaps you draft Tunsil & move King over. I just don't think they're 100% yet and Ramsey could be in play for them as well.

:laugh: That's like saying we already have Church to dismiss taking Ramsey. SDG's OT talent is godawful. They have invested multiple top 50 picks in the secondary as well recently even if they lost Weddle.
 

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An interesting note about Ramsey is that the Chargers didn't even bring him to town for a visit. Could be nothing, but that seems like something to me. Especially since they did bring both Buckner and Tunsil in for visits. In fact, walter football only has them as having a meeting with him at the combine.

Darn. Well that's very telling and does kinda take the oxygen out of my theory.
 

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I am resigned to it,i love Zeke as a player but i think its just a mistake to pick a Rb in the top 5.

And you're right. It absolutely is. And that's why the 'Zeke bandwagon' avoids the facts of the situation like the plague. Because they're terrible.

The team previously stated that paying the NFL's leading rusher to keep him higher than they were comfortable paying at the position.

They followed that up by saying the same thing when Lamar Miller wanted to come to Dallas and play for 'his Cowboys'.

But now they're going to follow up that financial responsibility by making a rookie running back the Top 10 highest paid at his position?

Asinine. Undoing everything you've previously done, blowing up your own established financial constraints for the position, and essentially telling the world 'we have no plan and just make it up as we go along'.

You've built an offensive line that has made two different running backs over the last two years. One, a 3rd round draft pick, and the other a left-for-dead retread who had one foot out of the league.

And yet, somehow, even after McFadden becomes the #4 running back in the league (with no Romo or Bryant!), and Alfred Morris is added, some people still think you need to use the #4 overall draft pick on the position?

The Madden Football generation at its' finest.
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And you're right. It absolutely is. And that's why the 'Zeke bandwagon' avoids the facts of the situation like the plague. Because they're terrible.

The team previously stated that paying the NFL's leading rusher to keep him higher than they were comfortable paying at the position.

They followed that up by saying the same thing when Lamar Miller wanted to come to Dallas and play for 'his Cowboys'.

But now they're going to follow up that financial responsibility by making a rookie running back the Top 10 highest paid at his position?

Asinine. Undoing everything you've previously done, blowing up your own established financial constraints for the position, and essentially telling the world 'we have no plan and just make it up as we go along'.

You've built an offensive line that has made two different running backs over the last two years. One, a 3rd round draft pick, and the other a left-for-dead retread who had one foot out of the league.

And yet, somehow, even after McFadden becomes the #4 running back in the league (with no Romo or Bryant!), and Alfred Morris is added, some people still think you need to use the #4 overall draft pick on the position?

The Madden Football generation at its' finest.
:facepalm:

It comes down to if Zeke is the next Adrian Peterson

If he is, taking him in the top 5 is OK

Obviously this is where you have to trust your scouts and if they say he is AP 2.0, you take him
 

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It comes down to if Zeke is the next Adrian Peterson

If he is, taking him in the top 5 is OK

Obviously this is where you have to trust your scouts and if they say he is AP 2.0, you take him

You're talking to a guy who was leading the charge to 'get Peterson' last year, so I can see where you're coming from.

But after seeing what this line was able to do in the running game last year, despite no Romo, no Dez, the Joseph Randle debacle, and having to change their blocking schemes to fit McFadden, I'm convinced that those that said they make running backs were absolutely right.

I'd allow them to make the next Adrian Peterson before I would pay the cost to draft one.
 
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I like Zeke as a player, and he's my 2nd choice if Ramsey isn't there. But I honestly think the team will be better off next year and in the future with Ramsey and Dixon in the 3rd, than it would be with Zeke and a 3rd round DB. JMO.
 

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I'm fully aware that RBs are less valuable but Elliot is not just a runner like Morris and McFadden. He does EVERYTHING. Lamar Miller and Demarco Murray are not electric do everything superstars like Elliot. That's where I think the differences are when talking about draft status and pay grade.
 
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