Say it ain't so: Could Cowher be a Cowboy? NFL Truths and Rumors

[VThokie7]

Besides, Wisenhunt and Tomlin were the ones that made that team great these past few seasons, not Cowher.

Dick LeBeau was the DC, Tomlin was in Minnesota last year. None the less, I would agree that he isn't as great as he is made out to be. I think Wade deserves his opportunity, and can't imagine Jerry firing him after one year.

 

[silverbear]

pacells has as much to do with the reason the stadium got built as i'm the reason we won the revolutionary war.

Yeah, I forgot to thank you for that... sure do appreciate it...

 

[LeonDixson]

This was started by a Steelers beat writer in the Pittsburgh Post Gazette, it was mention that Cleveland is the most likely place with Carolina next, followed by other jobs on the Hot Seat like the NYG, Washington and Dallas.

I love your sig pic, AmishCowboy. But you need Michael Irvin in there too. Of course it would get pretty crowded in you tried to include all the Cowboys greats. Nice job.

 

[Royal Laegotti]

Jerry is all about selling tickets. He knew that hiring Bill Parcells would get a stadium built in Arlington. Cowher will put people in the seats, not Phillips.

As sad as it is, I believe that to be the case as well.

But I'd rather have "The Chin" over Big Wade though just because of a better resume.

But it doesn't matter who the coach is if Jerry keeps on running the franchise from a marketing perspective first over a winning football perspective. I have gotten the impression that Jerry knows that he has found a way to make money without putting a legit contending product on the field.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Could Cowher be a Cowboy?


http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/7837
Posted: Sunday June 24, 2007 08:16AM ET

Any number of NFL teams could take a run at Bill Cowher. It wouldn't surprise anyone if Cowboys owner Jerry Jones fired Wade Phillips after just one season to make a pitch for him. Patience is running thin with Giants coach Tom Coughlin. The same is true with the Buccaneers' Jon Gruden. But the Panthers, Commanders and Browns probably make the most sense.

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette​

Intriguing but unlikely scenario. Nope. Aint gonna happen.
If jerra had intended such a move he would have had a Sparano or Zimmer to keep the seat warm while he waited for BC.
Jerra and me are intrigued at what WP can do with ware, spears, canty, carpenter, barnett. The expectations are tremendous because these are good athletes who have yet to be molded into position players. If they excel, the Dallas D will be a wild, ranging monster.
Cowher will cool his heels and go to N.Y. the following year. Only to have his butt kicked yearly by the WP defense.

 

[CowboyJeff]

The DALLAS COWBOYS got the stadium built. There will be people in the seats even if YOU were the coach because these are the DALLAS COWBOYS we are talking about. Or maybe you're a little young to know what those two words mean?

You obviously dont attend the games, so you dont see the empty seats in the "sold out" Texas Stadium. Maybe all your elderly friends decided to stay home on Sundays and watch the Golden Girls with you.

 

[CowboyJeff]

pacells has as much to do with the reason the stadium got built as i'm the reason we won the revolutionary war.

nice to meet you, General Washington

 

[Big Dakota]

You obviously dont attend the games, so you dont see the empty seats in the "sold out" Texas Stadium. Maybe all your elderly friends decided to stay home on Sundays and watch the Golden Girls with you.

No one said anything about "sold out" games. And as far as Golden girls go, i'd prefer girls your sister's age to your mom's.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Yeah..... you can definitely tell it's the "off" season in the NFL.

 

[superpunk]

Jerry is all about selling tickets. He knew that hiring Bill Parcells would get a stadium built in Arlington. Cowher will put people in the seats, not Phillips. I dont think it would be the right move, but it wouldnt surprise me if Jerry hired Cowher next year.

If we're successful, it would surprise me - particularly considering our alleged high-hopes for Redball.

FWIW, you're absolutely right about why Jerry hired Parcells. It's not really coincidence that he learned his lesson about coaching, and decided to get someone competent to allow Jerry to focus on the business side of things right as the stadium negotiations were about to go down. Bill played a large role in getting that new stadium, in making the Cowboys a more attractive brand, and taking Jerry out of the football side a little bit.

 

[jterrell]

First, yea, getting Bill in here helped get a stadium built.

We made the playoffs and excitement was amped way back up preceeding any stadium votes. It actually passed by a slim margin. Putting butts in seats is never a problem for teams in a new stadium but filling a stadium and getting a vote passed to buy one is totally different....

Yes, they are the Cowboys, but votes aren't limited to Cowboy fans.

All that said, BP helped bring back some credibility to Jones and 2 playoff appearances in 4 years even with no wins means something after 3 straight 5-11 seasons.I love the typical daftness of ignoring that but it is true.

However, this team is not in need of a credibility makeover any longer. Cowher's assistants are mostly all moved on beyond working for him and Jerry knows firsthand the issues a vet coach can have filling staff spots(part of the reason he pre-assembled some for Wade). Wade would have to lose control of th team in a big way we'd have to end up at 5-11 again this seaosn for him to only get 1 season. History suggests that will not happen, as does the talent on this team.

I fully expect Cowher to have only 3 possible destinations: Washington being a big favorite because money talks and Snyder will pay through the nose(and the skins are in need of that bp type credibiity makeover now), The Browns who are motivated to hire a big name and the Panthers who are seemingly on a downturn and get a homefield advantage.

If BP had stayed in place one more year then Cowher would have been the logical replacement.

 

[dcdallaschick]

Since the perception was that Cowher left because the Steelers org was never going to offer him the kind of $$ he could get from guys like Snyder, if I were his agent, the first thing I'd do is float all kinds of rumors that Jerry wanted him so Snyder will up his bid.

I hate to see anybody competent end up with the 'skins, but so far it seems like despite how good they are when they arrive, they end up joining the ongoing carnival rather than straightening things out. Hopefully that trend continues!

 

[Hostile]

I think Phillips would have to be a colossal failure for Jerry to axe him after 1 year. I don't see it as even remotely possible.

 

[Doomsday101]

If Phillips is winning he will have nothing to worry about. I disagree with the poster who says Jerry wants to put people in the seats so you do that by hiring a coach like Cowher? You put people in the seats by winning!!!

 

[Sandyf]

Unless Phillips falls on his face, forget Chin Bill here. You have to at Chin Bill and what he wants because it is about him and not the owners.

He has the hammer. He is a big family guy and a loyal guy. So forget the Browns, he will dis on the Steelers by going to the Browns. He isn't about the money, just check some of his comments over years. He wanted to be paid just what all the other coaches were getting paid, he always said that he didn't care about being the highest paid coach but wanted an owner he could trust. So forget the Commanders.

Currently that really only leaves the Panthers which is near his home, close to where his girls go to college, and where his wife built the house of her dreams. Pretty good owner in Carolina, time of a change probably there with the head coach especially if they miss the playoffs, would have almost total control and would be allowed time to change the defense to a 3-4.

Unless Carolina doesn't make a change at the HC position then it would become a toss up but my bet if it is not Carolina, then it will not be anyone in 2008 and Chin Bill will wait to see what transpires during the 2008 season.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I think the "Chin" is over-rated quite frankly.

I think he's a poor man's Parcells.

While I'm not a huge Son-of-Bum fan I don't see him getting axed after one year to bring Cowher.

 

[CowboyJeff]

No one said anything about "sold out" games. And as far as Golden girls go, i'd prefer girls your sister's age to your mom's.

I'll educate you and give you a dose of reality about Texas Stadium and the fans who attend the games, since you have some warped pious vision of the Cowboys and local Cowboys fans. When the Cowboys have a losing team, the "fans" stay home. Period. End of Story. You can sit in the stadium, throw a stone, and unless you have great aim not hit a person. There will be thousands upon thousands of empty seats. When the Cowboys have a winning team, the stadium still has a lot of empty seats, except for the rare occasion like the 2006 Indianapolis game. The "sold out streak" Jerry likes to claim is a facade. Whatever available seats remain the week before the game are purchased by Jerry Jones so the game doesn’t get blacked-out in the local market. The new stadium is not being built "because" they are the Dallas Cowboys. The new stadium is being built because Jerry Jones is the savviest businessman in all of pro football, and most other sports. If you actually speak to Jerry and Stephen behind closed doors they will be the first to tell you that without a high profile coach like Parcells in 2003, this stadium deal may not get done. You give way too much credit to the mystique of the Cowboys from the 1970s carrying into everything they do. According to you, Bum Bright would have negotiated the stadium just as well as Jerry with a 5-11 Campo coached team (or an 0-16 team coached by me).
:laugh2:

 

[carphalen5150]

Garrett is the next coach of the Cowboys. I don't think it will be next year, but clearly he is being set up to be the coach of the forseeable future.

 

[CowboyJeff]

If we're successful, it would surprise me - particularly considering our alleged high-hopes for Redball.

FWIW, you're absolutely right about why Jerry hired Parcells. It's not really coincidence that he learned his lesson about coaching, and decided to get someone competent to allow Jerry to focus on the business side of things right as the stadium negotiations were about to go down. Bill played a large role in getting that new stadium, in making the Cowboys a more attractive brand, and taking Jerry out of the football side a little bit.

Thanks, but I'm not right or wrong. I'm just repeating what was told to be by a good acquaintance who trickblue knows will remain nameless.

 

[CowboyJeff]

I think Phillips would have to be a colossal failure for Jerry to axe him after 1 year. I don't see it as even remotely possible.

You never know....... It already happened this year with the 2007 Texas Rangers. Manager Buck Showalter who built not one, but two different franchises into World Series Champions came to Texas to turn them around. Under Showalter, the Rangers were competitive, but didn’t achieve the dreams or aspirations of the Yankees and Diamondbacks that Showalter built earlier. The Rangers hire a new coach in 2007. The players are ecstatic!!! They whine and complain that Showalter was too tough on them and was dictatorial in his managerial style. They all welcome the new "player-friendly" manager in Ron Washington. What happened to them this year? The Texas Rangers are the worst team in baseball, and a laughing stock. Could it happen with the Cowboys? Anything is possible. Jerry still has to sell those million dollar suites and justify regular ticket price increases. That would be hard to do with a 5-11 team coached by non-quotable nice guy.