Say it ain't so: Could Cowher be a Cowboy? NFL Truths and Rumors

[CowboyJeff]

I disagree you don't make long term commitment deals based on a short term situation. In today’s NFL there will be other down times and I don't think any person is going to cut a big deal as this based on making the playoffs or not.

so then why didn’t the deal to build the new stadium get done before 2003 when the Cowboys were wallowing in Campo misery? Because Jerry couldn’t get the same deal he got after 2003.

 

[Doomsday101]

so then why didn’t the deal to build the new stadium get done before 2003 when the Cowboys were wallowing in Campo misery? Because Jerry couldn’t get the same deal he got after 2003.

I think in large part because the process with the city of Dallas was pretty slow. I think Jerry really wanted to bring the team back and gave them every opportunity to do so. As I said I don't think anyone is going to approve or disapprove a deal like this based on what the team is doing in that particular year.

 

[iceberg]

so then why didn’t the deal to build the new stadium get done before 2003 when the Cowboys were wallowing in Campo misery? Because Jerry couldn’t get the same deal he got after 2003.

then why didn't we get one when it was the early 90's and we were kicking tail all over the place and twice on sundays?

timing.

if your world is better because you want to think parcells had a thing to do with it - go ahead. it's no more or less delusional than other things i hear on here all the time.

 

[Alexander]

then why didn't we get one when it was the early 90's and we were kicking tail all over the place and twice on sundays?

timing.

The stadium was also seventeen years younger.

if your world is better because you want to think parcells had a thing to do with it - go ahead. it's no more or less delusional than other things i hear on here all the time.

Whether you like it or not, Coach Parcells did put this franchise back on the map. He's left the franchise in better shape. He restored a bit of the luster back to the brand.

Was the stadium deal contingent specifically on Coach Parcells? No.

Was the team's promise of future success part of the deal? You had better believe it is. Had we been working on our sixth straight 5-11 campaign, this type of stadium deal doesn't go through. He had a little something to do with that.

 

[iceberg]

The stadium was also seventeen years younger.



Whether you like it or not, Coach Parcells did put this franchise back on the map. He's left the franchise in better shape. He restored a bit of the luster back to the brand.

Was the stadium deal contingent specifically on Coach Parcells? No.

Was the team's promise of future success part of the deal? You had better believe it is. Had we been working on our sixth straight 5-11 campaign, this type of stadium deal doesn't go through. He had a little something to do with that.

after 95, that's 11-12 years, but my point is more "timing" - you know, like the next word i said.

put your gun away big fella. if you *really* wanted to hear what i was saying or have said, you would have noticed that i've said MANY MANY TIMES that parcells DID IN FACT make this a better team.

but we do agree parcells is *not* the reason we build the stadium. i'll go back to "timing" for that one.

 

[superpunk]

From Mike Shropshire's book, "When the Tuna Came down to Texas"

"There's no 'I' in the word team." But there are several in "multi-millionaire", which has always been Jerry's most cherished identity. ticket sales, luxury-box sales, corporate sponsorships - those will dwindle after too much on-the-field ineptitude.....Jerry had already been studying the blueprints for the eventual new stadium that would house the team....

The pressing concerns were where to put it and which of the various civic entities in the...Metroplex would help finance it. With yet another crappy team and Jones's fourth-straight season without a chance at achieving the playoffs, Jonestown was looming as a more distinct reality. "I was afraid," Jones would confide later. "I always just assumed we were going to win....If we fell short of contending, we'd correct that within months. That's the deal I have with our fans and our constituencies. They know that Jones will get it done, and they'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

But we hadn't been getting it done for three years in a row. I felt like I'd lost a lot of my benefit-of-the-doubt collateral."

So Jerry Jones's antenna was suddenly up and fully activated, transmitting an SOS heard around the football world.

 

[CowboyJeff]

after 95, that's 11-12 years, but my point is more "timing" - you know, like the next word i said.

put your gun away big fella. if you *really* wanted to hear what i was saying or have said, you would have noticed that i've said MANY MANY TIMES that parcells DID IN FACT make this a better team.

but we do agree parcells is *not* the reason we build the stadium. i'll go back to "timing" for that one.

the reason the Cowboys built the new stadium is that the old one is crumbling. It's an embarrassment to a historic franchise. As far as Bill's importance to the deal getting done with Arlington, ya gotta ask Jerry or Stephen.

 

[CowboyJeff]

From Mike Shropshire's book, "When the Tuna Came down to Texas"

Isn’t that sacrilege to some who post here?

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I guess Jerry had them in mind with the planning of the new stadium: less bathrooms in order to keep people in their seats. We need more die hards and less wine and cheesers in the new stadium.

How about custom bedpans under each seat?

 

[Fletch]

Reports are that Daniel has already had an up close and personal meeting with the Spitting Chin.

Let Daniel over pay next offseason, as he always does.

 

[iceberg]

the reason the Cowboys built the new stadium is that the old one is crumbling. It's an embarrassment to a historic franchise. As far as Bill's importance to the deal getting done with Arlington, ya gotta ask Jerry or Stephen.

is it because we need one then (and we did back then also) or is it "parcells"?

the only thing parcells did was make this a more interesting team. he didn't make us "winners" cause we still have never won a playoff game in quite some time. you also don't plan buliding a stadium for 3-4 years around a coach who only stays around no longer than that.

i'll stand by my statement. parcells helped make this a better (if not winning) team but he's not the reason why we're building a stadium. as for texas stadium falling apart - that's one damn good reason cause it's a dump of a warehouse type stadium as it is.

 

[superpunk]

Isn’t that sacrilege to some who post here?

How do you mean?

Clearly Jerry was confident that no matter how the team performed, people would continue to throw money at him and build him a new stadium. He saw no need to bring legitimacy back to the franchise before embarking on this blockbuster mega-stadium proposal, the likes of which has never been seen - because damnit the Cowboys sell themselves. (Even to voters who aren't Cowboys fans!) Jerry knew the Cowboys could continue to be a second-rate Texas team (we lost to the expansion Texans?) and noone would bat an eye at his half-billion dollar request for funds.

Or did he?

 

[Vintage]

Reports are that Daniel has already had an up close and personal meeting with the Spitting Chin.

Let Daniel over pay next offseason, as he always does.

Who cares?

Its not like coaches are a part of a salary cap.

 

[GlitzCowboy]

I think it's Wade's time. Maybe the one time in his life he actually has to shine. I say that simply because of the style of defense he sports. It's in style now. And elite amungst most trying to implement it to keep up with the "Jones". And in our case, this year, we plan on making that "Jones" statement the utter truth.

I always wanted Cowher, but I just dont think he'll find a place here. Like I said, it's wade's time.

Also as far as putting butts in the seats.. Trust that people will show up to see Bum. Especially in Texas. He's going to be an attraction there watching his son and grandson. Media will probably eat it up too. Doubly so if he starts making his way down to the sidelines during games or hanging with Jerry. Added to the fact that Wade really likes getting his stars the ball. This is what TO was talking about by "getting your popcorn ready". He's going to be a show this year on the field. Nomore blatent favortism towards the lesser player, Terry Glenn. A TO show, from start to finish. Our seats are going to be filled!