Schefter asked two NFL people about Prescott

[AsthmaField]

I don't think you should give him credit because I believe Stephen Jones, Will McClay, and Garrett are much more involved in personel decisions now than Jerry does. But if you are going to blame Jerry Jones for recent draft busts, then you cant qualify the ones that work out. Seattle wouldn't have won their championship if they didn't stumble on guys like Wilson, Sherman, and Bennett. You aren't going to win championships if you don't stumble on a few gems in today's NFL.

Bennett was a free agent pickup. He was drafted by Tampa.

Your point still stands though, and it is a good one.

 

[Bowdown27]

The thing to me is if you put dak in the situation Goff or wentz are in its a different ballgame.

You handed dak the top oline. A top 5 back and Alfred Morris. A hall of fame te and arguably the best wideout in the game. This kid was good in college but with this team he can become great. I think it helps how we've drafted over the years.

 

[ghst187]

If Dak turns out like we all think he will at this early juncture, then he is yet another shining example of how crummy most of the league scouts and draft departments are. I'll be the first to admit it looks like I was very wrong about Dak coming out but so were all 30+ NFL teams (we would've grabbed him much earlier). I will pass out some kudos to those posters here that appear to have been right about him. All of this to say that there are always naysayers around here that belittle other posters' draft picks under the excuse that "they don't get paid to scout" or "I prefer to trust the professional scouts/front office". This, along with a thousand other samples only further prove that the "pro scouts" and front offices, despite having direct access to the athletes, teammates, and coaches, really can't consistently beat half the posters here.

Ps. Pretty sure that 2009 draft would've been more productive had they just put a poll here on CZ for every pick.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

The thing to me is if you put dak in the situation Goff or wentz are in its a different ballgame.

You handed dak the top oline. A top 5 back and Alfred Morris. A hall of fame te and arguably the best wideout in the game. This kid was good in college but with this team he can become great. I think it helps how we've drafted over the years.

I like how some are making excuses because of his OL and that Dez played in his games for why he looks good. If he becomes the starter those will be his teammates. I don't know why they hold it against him.

 

[Clove]

I like how some are making excuses because of his OL and that Dez played in his games for why he looks good. If he becomes the starter those will be his teammates. I don't know why they hold it against him.

not only that, but he also dominated with the second team

 

[ScipioCowboy]

And the best player in the draft was Dak Prescott. Haha.

This will be the greatest draft of Jerry's tenure as owner.

It may be the greatest draft in franchise history. Jimmy did what he did through sheer quantity.

 

[Hardline]

Who are these two "NFL People " that was talked to?

 

[Alexander]

I don't think you should give him credit because I believe Stephen Jones, Will McClay, and Garrett are much more involved in personel decisions now than Jerry does.

McClay is the one who gets the benefit of a lack of insight into how we do things. From what I see, he is a facilitator. Yet some feel he has an eye. Stephen Jones does not know talent more than his father does. And while a lot of people give Jason Garrett credit because of his father, well, all I can say is his father was a big voice in the scouting realm on some very very bad New Orleans Saints teams back in the 1970s.

But if you are going to blame Jerry Jones for recent draft busts, then you cant qualify the ones that work out. Seattle wouldn't have won their championship if they didn't stumble on guys like Wilson, Sherman, and Bennett. You aren't going to win championships if you don't stumble on a few gems in today's NFL.

Of course. But a lot of times, "stumbling upon" means you have good deep scouting and a dialogue in the draft room that gives say to even the underling scouts. If you allow the layers to get too high, you get dumb picks.

One of the traits that people give as a plus for Jones is that he "listens". But he listens to people with authority. That Midwest scout with some unearthed gem is not going to get to his level without going through the corporate bureaucracy.

The chain of knowledge about prospects and how it spreads up the chain on NFL teams is what gives the impression that it is random luck.

It would not be if the noise and political element were eliminated.

 

[Bullflop]

If Dak responds to the upcoming game with Seattle the way he did his previous two games, it's for sure eyes will pop, hearts will race, heads may explode and huge grins will become eternally fixed upon the faces of Cowboys fans worldwide. And that's just for starters, folks!

 

[Proof]

Against the Rams Dak responded to a 2nd and 25 situation and managed to get enough yards for a comfortable field goal for Dan Bailey, instead of panicking and going for the big plays to make up for his and the team's mistakes. Then Against Miami Dak has his worst throw of the preseason on an interception that was taken back thanks to a late hit. A bad interception like that can rattle a QB, but Dak came back and lead the team to a touchdown drive. That's some serious poise right there, even if it's against vanilla defenses. And that's something that can't be taught.

A 3 TD drive*

 

[marchetta]

I hope so, I truly do. If the Cowboys hit on Dak with the 135th overall pick, that's the only thing people will remember about this draft. Imagine, now, if Zeke is an all pro back and Jaylon Smith gets healthy.

I think "it" moved. ;-)

 

[Alexander]

If Dak responds to the upcoming game with Seattle the way he did his previous two games, I feel certain eyes will pop, hearts will race, heads may explode and huge grins will become eternally frozen on the faces of Cowboys fans worldwide . . . and that's just for starters!

In a way, I kind of hope he is proven to be mortal.

There is some real dumb dialogue going on right now about him taking Romo's job.

 

[wileedog]

In a way, I kind of hope he is proven to be mortal.

There is some real dumb dialogue going on right now about him taking Romo's job.

I was thinking the same. While I want him to play well an INT or two might be a good "teaching moment" for everyone involved.

 

[Alexander]

I was thinking the same. While I want him to play well an INT or two might be a good "teaching moment" for everyone involved.

You are talking about the player.

I am talking about not having to read dumb things like he is ready to start and Romo should be dangled as trade bait.

 

[wileedog]

You are talking about the player.

I am talking about not having to read dumb things like he is ready to start and Romo should be dangled as trade bait.

No, that's what I meant by "everyone involved." Press. Fans. Everyone.

 

[JBS]

You are talking about the player.

I am talking about not having to read dumb things like he is ready to start and Romo should be dangled as trade bait.

I'd rather see dak go 20 for 20 w 5 tds all against seattles starting D

 

[rynochop]

Do you understand how idiotic this comment is?

Give the same man who craved Quincy Carter and Johnny Manziel, yet we should "give him credit" for missing on a trade for Lynch and succeeding in securing Dak Prescott's rights?

Joe Fan off the street could have identified Lynch as a good prospect. He felt so strongly with his expert eye about him that he got cold feet and did not sweeten the trade to Seattle to get him.

And if you think stumbling upon Prescott when the strategy has long gone out of the draft process, I don't know what to tell you.

If Prescott is the next big thing, it was not skill, namely Jones having an "eye". It was like it was with Romo, a case of being extremely fortunate because someone else did the homework.

I know. It will be hard, but you'll get over it. But I'm sure when some 5th rounder doesn't work out, we can bring it back to jerry..that I know

 

[Joe Realist]

49ers thought they were set with Kap too,

 

[Alexander]

I know. It will be hard, but you'll get over it. But I'm sure when some 5th rounder doesn't work out, we can bring it back to jerry..that I know

Not at all. A missed pick like say, Matt Johnson, is an organizational failure.

If that brings it back to Jerry Jones, so be it. You know, he is like, the GM.

Until there is someone else there with the autonomy be make the tough choices and be held accountable, we can have this debate forever.

I know it seems loyal to defend poor Jerry Jones, but he likes it this way. He is so driven to get credit, he is willing to take bullets for dumb choices he had little to do with just as much as taking credit for the ones at his layer that he actually pushes his opinion into.

 

[ThreeandOut]

Two NFL sources today and Charlie Casserly yesterday all seem to be confirming that what we are seeing from Dak in these games is for real. It's interesting to hear these NFL evaluators stating that he has a real shot at being a high-end QB of the future.

Dak's performance in these first two games has been such an outlier for rookie QB performance. His level of play would be dominant for a franchise first overall pick QB, much less a player that was taken at the back end of the fourth round.