Schefter believes suspension will be reduced

[pansophy]

You can appeal an appeal?

Sorry, I was referring to a lawsuit. In my head that was an appeal, but obviously a different process.

 

[CowboyGil]

We. Are. Old.

Hurray! I'm for the other team!
In-ter-ject-tion! For excitement, or emotion, alleluia, alleluia, allelu-oo-oo-yah-yeah!

A noun is a person, place or thing!!

 

[Cowboys22]

I would LOVE this. Henderson didn't require her to attend his hearing but when they go to court she won't have a choice. It'll get ugly, but it is necessary to clear his good name.

No she won't. If they go to court, it will have nothing to do with whether or not he committed DV. The only thing they can do in court is try and claim the NFL did not abide by the CBA or committed some type of infraction outside of the CBA. To get her to answer questions in court, he will have to sue her civilly. It the case against the NFL, he will proclaim he is innocent and the league will say they believe he did something that warrants suspension. That is the extent to which DV will be discussed. The rest will be about procedures under the CBA and issues like bias, collusion, fairness, and disparate treatment.

 

[Beast_from_East]

It's getting reduced, but not to 0

I go to court if I am Zeke

 

[okstateCowboy]

If more than 2 games, I would go to court.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

A week 1 division game isn't that important to go with this strategy.

If it's reduced one option would be to appeal so that he can play against the Giants then withdraw the appeal and serve the suspension. He wouldn't miss a division game that way.

If I was Zeke, I'm appealing anything over zero games. Even if I have no problem with it being reduced to 1-2 games, I'm still appealing to give me control of games served. Other words, let say it's reduced to 2 games. He gets a little bang up game 7 and Cowboys medical staff tells him he likely won't play in game 8 and maybe questionable for game 9.........bingo. This is when I drop my appeal and serve one/two game suspension.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

The one court that counts to the owners of the NFL. The Court of public opinion.

That's true but that court isn't enraged over this suspension. The large majority of them are happy about it, in fact.

 

[robjay04]

That's true but that court isn't enraged over this suspension. The large majority of them are happy about it, in fact.

The owners?

I haven't heard they're happy. I really don't know their opinion at all.

I know Jerry is well liked and has a lot of power.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

The owners?

I haven't heard they're happy. I really don't know their opinion at all.

I know Jerry is well liked and has a lot of power.

No, the fans, I assumed that is who you meant by "Court of Opinion". Most of the fans (other teams) are loving this suspension. The only ones who don't are Cowboy Fans, which is understandable.

 

[diefree666]

The one reason the courts could go with Zeke is that the NFL branded him a woman beater when criminal court would not even charge him; and there is no civil suit either. Thus the NFL is acting as its own court-and that should not be allowed.

 

[Don Corleone]

The one reason the courts could go with Zeke is that the NFL branded him a woman beater when criminal court would not even charge him; and there is no civil suit either. Thus the NFL is acting as its own court-and that should not be allowed.

Branding Zeke is one angle but the key will be focusing on the process the NFL followed in accordance with the CBA. If the process in the CBA wasn't followed, then it opens the door for a strong legal case.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

The one reason the courts could go with Zeke is that the NFL branded him a woman beater when criminal court would not even charge him; and there is no civil suit either. Thus the NFL is acting as its own court-and that should not be allowed.

Plus, why didn't the NFL want Tiffany Thompson at Zeke's appeal hearing? It's almost as if they were afraid the truth might come out.

 

[Don Corleone]

Plus, why didn't the NFL want Tiffany Thompson at Zeke's appeal hearing? It's almost as if they were afraid the truth might come out.

Or they knowingly set themselves up for a strong reversal by denying due process. Remember, Henderson will look like the incompetent one here. Not Goodell. He denied turning over the findings and basically played hardball.

 

[plasticman]

If Zeke accepts anything more than 0 games suspended, he will, in effect, admit that he was guilty to some degree of domestic violence.

The trouble is, nobody sees degrees when it comes to being branded a "woman beater".

This is going to court and Zeke will play the entire season, it will take that long for the case to be resolved. It should go all the way to the Supreme Court. Goodell can say goodbye, he stepped on the wrong franchise.

 

[haleyrules]

If Zeke accepts anything more than 0 games suspended, he will, in effect, admit that he was guilty to some degree of domestic violence.

The trouble is, nobody sees degrees when it comes to being branded a "woman beater".

This is going to court and Zeke will play the entire season, it will take that long for the case to be resolved. It should go all the way to the Supreme Court. Goodell can say goodbye, he stepped on the wrong franchise.

Thats not entirely true. Its at least a partial/ business decision. The cost vrs the possible lost revenue from long term endorsements. Tough piece of business. Renember, the owners have a very long memory.

 

[haleyrules]

No she won't. If they go to court, it will have nothing to do with whether or not he committed DV. The only thing they can do in court is try and claim the NFL did not abide by the CBA or committed some type of infraction outside of the CBA. To get her to answer questions in court, he will have to sue her civilly. It the case against the NFL, he will proclaim he is innocent and the league will say they believe he did something that warrants suspension. That is the extent to which DV will be discussed. The rest will be about procedures under the CBA and issues like bias, collusion, fairness, and disparate treatment.

Thats the rub. Elliott can not win. Its a fixed fight!

 

[xwalker]

No she won't. If they go to court, it will have nothing to do with whether or not he committed DV. The only thing they can do in court is try and claim the NFL did not abide by the CBA or committed some type of infraction outside of the CBA. To get her to answer questions in court, he will have to sue her civilly. It the case against the NFL, he will proclaim he is innocent and the league will say they believe he did something that warrants suspension. That is the extent to which DV will be discussed. The rest will be about procedures under the CBA and issues like bias, collusion, fairness, and disparate treatment.

I generally agree with this; however, Zeke's lawyer could challenge the integrity of their investigation at which point it's possible she could be called to compare the info collected by NFL investigators to what she would say under oath.

In other words the court would be reviewing the investigation itself, not the concept of innocence or guilt.

 

[Echo9]

If you can see Venus to the east, it should be a 3 game suspension. If Mars bisects the conjunction of the Moon and Jupiter, then it should be 0. If Rodney Dangerfield comes back to life as a horsefly, it gets reduced to 2. My logic is just as sound as the NFL's in this case.

That means two games then. I just saw a horsefly do a triple lindy the other day.

 

[Echo9]

Isn't Kellen Moore the quarterback from the one about Interjections?




"He made a connection in the other direction..."

Hmmm. Seems most of my interjections are filtered.

 

[thisiscowboyscountry]

I would be shocked if it was reduced to 0 at this point. On the opposite side if it becomes 2 or 3 games I don't know if it's worth dragging out for a year and possibly having additional evidence come out, while keeping Elliott in the spotlight for the wrong reason. The Elliott camp would have to be pretty certain Elliott was involved in no questionable behavior and the NFL was over stepping their legal bounds with unfair labor practices.

My take is the NFL should align their conduct policy to the legal system allowing them to punish only if convicted. At that point they can assess the severity and have a clearly defined policy on monetary fines, and suspensions. It just makes too much sense rather than this ambiguous process today. If there is a lawsuit from Elliott's camp it would need to focus on their questionable process and punishing on allegations rather than concrete evidence.