Schoonmaker starts camp on NFI list

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Per the American Physiological Society Journal's conclusion on a recent study: Indeed, the presence of contractile cells has been confirmed for the plantar, lumbar, and crural fasciae and fascia lata and the fascia of the gastrocnemius muscle.

Link because I found this:

The plantar fascia is a non-contractile tissue. Unlike a muscle, its primary function is to provide stability to the underside of the foot and the medial longitudinal arch (MLA). When walking, running, or hopping the plantar fascia absorbs force and stabilises the foot.

https://james-mccormack.com/advice-...ractile tissue.,force and stabilises the foot.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I saw Schoonmaker working on the side today and he looks like he will be able to practice soon in my opinion. If so makes a lot of guys on here look ridiculous.

 

[baltcowboy]

You can smell the Super Bowl

Sounds like Schoonmaker tore it In minicamp. He should be fine soon enough. Remember when Pollard completely tore it in 21. It took about 4 weeks and he was back.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Sounds like Schoonmaker tore it In minicamp. He should be fine soon enough. Remember when Pollard completely tore it in 21. It took about 4 weeks and he was back.

They put him down for NFI which they couldn't do if he were injured in team activities.

Schoonmaker (foot) is on the active/non-football injury list for the start of training camp.

The use of the NFI list rather than PUP suggests Schoonmaker's foot issue predates the 2023 NFL Draft or else was suffered afterward while he was away from the team.

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/cowboys-luke-schoonmaker-placed-on-nfi-list/

 

[baltcowboy]

They put him down for NFI which they couldn't do if he were injured in team activities.



https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/cowboys-luke-schoonmaker-placed-on-nfi-list/

I thought he practiced some in mini camp. Broaddus said he was working with the first team before he ended up sitting out the rest of camp and OTAs. Supposedly the injury has been bothering him since the college season.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I thought he practiced some in mini camp. Broaddus said he was working with the first team before he ended up sitting out the rest of camp and OTAs. Supposedly the injury has been bothering him since the college season.

My guess is he got the injury sometime before minicamp and tried to play through it. It got worse or wasn't getting better so they shut him down.

I'm with you on your timeframes fwiw.

 

[baltcowboy]

My guess is he got the injury sometime before minicamp and tried to play through it. It got worse or wasn't getting better so they shut him down.

I'm with you on your timeframes fwiw.

I think Schoonmaker will make it back soon. I bet we see him before Isreal and Diggs.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Always possible.

However, in the offseason, analyzing is what we do. No point in dropping into a thread to proclaim that you don't want to analyze!!!!!!!!!

I did analyze all off season about a guard. This was nothing close to a drive-by.

 

[speedkilz88]

Mickey claimed he was injured as far back as the e-w shrine game. Although reports from that game was he still hadn't recovered from the ac joint. Partially torn fascia can be a 7 week to 3 month recovery. Schoonmaker told the media it's been doing good and he hopes to be back within a couple of weeks.

 

[kskboys]

I did analyze all off season about a guard. This was nothing close to a drive-by.

I was agreeing w/ you, meant the other guy!!!!!!

 

[TheSport78]

Link because I found this:

The plantar fascia is a non-contractile tissue. Unlike a muscle, its primary function is to provide stability to the underside of the foot and the medial longitudinal arch (MLA). When walking, running, or hopping the plantar fascia absorbs force and stabilises the foot.

https://james-mccormack.com/advice-centre/plantar-fasciitis/#:~:text=The plantar fascia is a non-contractile tissue.,force and stabilises the foot.

Like you said, it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, but this is a physical therapist's personal website. He can put anything on there and claim it to be true or to be correct. I quoted a clinical study specifically on the contractile ability of the plantar fascia, which would point to it not being like a ligament. Science is always evolving.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Like you said, it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, but this is a physical therapist's personal website. He can put anything on there and claim it to be true or to be correct. I quoted a clinical study specifically on the contractile ability of the plantar fascia, which would point to it not being like a ligament. Science is always evolving.

You cited a study that said that it contained some muscle tissue not that it could contract. You also never linked it whihc makes me think the context would not serve your interests.

 

[TheSport78]

You cited a study that said that it contained some muscle tissue not that it could contract. You also never linked it whihc makes me think the context would not serve your interests.

Nah. I just didn't care enough to include the link. Here it is though: https://journals.physiology.org/doi...Indeed, the presence of contractile,9, 67, 70).

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Nah. I just didn't care enough to include the link. Here it is though: https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/japplphysiol.00565.2017#:~:text=Indeed, the presence of contractile,9, 67, 70).

Okay so we have established that there is some uncertainty in the classification of fascia tissue.

That does not mean that people that overtrain do not risk developing plantar fasciitis. It also does not change the recovery timeframe as stated for plantar fasciitis. Things that actually matter in this case.

 

[TheSport78]

Okay so we have established that there is some uncertainty in the classification of fascia tissue.

That does not mean that people that overtrain do not risk developing plantar fasciitis. It also does not change the recovery timeframe as stated for plantar fasciitis. Things that actually matter in this case.

I never argued that; I was arguing your original post where you concluded WHY he developed plantar fasciitis.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I never argued that; I was arguing your original post where you concluded WHY he developed plantar fasciitis.

I explained that the predraft process meant that what wold normally be a period of rest and recovery was replaced by training. And that overtraining is a risk factor for PF.

You asked why not all predraft prospects did not get PF.

I then pointed out it was a probability and not a certainty.

You said that made no sense.

I pointed out that you did not understand the nature of probability as opposed to certainty.

From there you went on to try to prove me wrong on something finally settling on the ligament gig.

You really never argued anything but my credibility and admitted to antagonistic behavior. I can guess why.

 

[TheSport78]

I explained that the predraft process meant that what wold normally be a period of rest and recovery was replaced by training. And that overtraining is a risk factor for PF.

You asked why not all predraft prospects did not get PF.

I then pointed out it was a probability and not a certainty.

You said that made no sense.

I pointed out that you did not understand the nature of probability as opposed to certainty.

From there you went on to try to prove me wrong on something finally settling on the ligament gig.

You really never argued anything but my credibility and admitted to antagonistic behavior. I can guess why.

There’s just so much wrong with your response, but I’m just not going to take the time anymore to explain or respond. You’re one of those people that probably never admit fault or take responsibility. That’s cool, but I’m not wasting my time with people like that. Good day.

 

[speedkilz88]

Read an article I can't post here. He tore his plantar fascia in late December. It feels good and he hopes to end his rehab in a week or two.

But this isn't plantar fasciitis, that is a chronic situation. If he's fully healed, he shouldn't have an issue with it anymore.

 

[Sydla]

I saw Schoonmaker working on the side today and he looks like he will be able to practice soon in my opinion. If so makes a lot of guys on here look ridiculous.

I mean not necessarily. Even if cleared to practice/play, will he be 100%? Will it be a recurring issue? Sometimes it takes guys time to get over injuries.

There's no spiking of the ball here healthwise if he gets cleared for practice. I mean if his foot/leg act up in October, does that mean you have to recant calling everyone "ridiculous"?

To me, Schoonmaker just seems like one of those unnecessary risks we seem to love in the 2nd round. Hope the kid works out but my optimism is limited at this point.

 

[rambo2]

I mean not necessarily. Even if cleared to practice/play, will he be 100%? Will it be a recurring issue? Sometimes it takes guys time to get over injuries.

There's no spiking of the ball here healthwise if he gets cleared for practice. I mean if his foot/leg act up in October, does that mean you have to recant calling everyone "ridiculous"?

To me, Schoonmaker just seems like one of those unnecessary risks we seem to love in the 2nd round. Hope the kid works out but my optimism is limited at this point.

Everyone? It certainly isn't everyone?