Schoonmaker starts camp on NFI list

[speedkilz88]

I mean not necessarily. Even if cleared to practice/play, will he be 100%? Will it be a recurring issue? Sometimes it takes guys time to get over injuries.

There's no spiking of the ball here healthwise if he gets cleared for practice. I mean if his foot/leg act up in October, does that mean you have to recant calling everyone "ridiculous"?

To me, Schoonmaker just seems like one of those unnecessary risks we seem to love in the 2nd round. Hope the kid works out but my optimism is limited at this point.

He isn't the first nfl player who had a plantar fascia tear. As long as he's had time to fully heal it shouldn't be an issue. Antonio Gates had an issue in 2010 & 2011 so it is possible to reinjure. But it's been 7 months for Schoonmaker, he's had plenty of time for that thing to heal. Maybe the combine training delayed the healing process?

 

[Sydla]

He isn't the first nfl player who had a plantar fascia tear. As long as he's had time to fully heal it shouldn't be an issue. Antonio Gates had an issue in 2010 & 2011 so it is possible to reinjure.

No he's not. But he's also not the first player to have it and have it limited him for a long period of time.

Again, I have no idea what his prognosis is. But to me, he seems like a risk we took, again, in the 2nd round because we were drafting for need there.

 

[big dog cowboy]

But to me, he seems like a risk we took, again, in the 2nd round because we were drafting for need there.

Huh? The Cowboys made it clear they wanted to improve their blocking. He was the guy they wanted. Plus he bring in his receiving skills.

There is no risk. He got hurt. He will get healthy. It happens all over the league not just to Cowboy players.

 

[JoeKing]

Never draft a player in the 2nd round unless he is going to play that same year. Schoonmaker isn't playing pro football in 2023. He's going to end up being yet another 2nd round draft bust for the Cowboys.

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

Huh? The Cowboys made it clear they wanted to improve their blocking. He was the guy they wanted. Plus he bring in his receiving skills.

There is no risk. He got hurt. He will get healthy. It happens all over the league not just to Cowboy players.

The Cowboys were trying to save money, not "improve their blocking". They literally tried to re-sign Schultz, who demanded more than the Cowboys were willing to pay.

Schultz was graded as the 4th/5th best blocking TE in the entire NFL by PFF analytics.

The narrative that Schultz is a poor blocker is a judgment from early in his career. His blocking improved dramatically over time as he built strength. Too bad many observers are not willing to re-evaluate their opinions over time.

So please, LET US KNOW when the one-legged rookie grades out as a better blocker than Schultz. It could happen. I'll be waiting....

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

There’s just so much wrong with your response, but I’m just not going to take the time anymore to explain or respond. You’re one of those people that probably never admit fault or take responsibility. That’s cool, but I’m not wasting my time with people like that. Good day.

martyr yourself and claim victory in the same breath.

you are welcome to you opinions.

 

[VaqueroTD]

Never has a rookie in recent years had that bust smell about him as strongly as our new TE.

 

[stilltheguru]

There’s just so much wrong with your response, but I’m just not going to take the time anymore to explain or respond. You’re one of those people that probably never admit fault or take responsibility. That’s cool, but I’m not wasting my time with people like that. Good day.

You're learning the ways of Fuzzy

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Schultz was graded as the 4th/5th best blocking TE in the entire NFL by PFF analytics.

I have idea what PFF grades were or were not but I do know that he had to sell out with lunges and throws to generate power. For the most part he was assignment sound but he did not get push often on LB and never DE.

Good thing Ferg is in year two and we are not only relying on the rookie.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You're learning the ways of Fuzzy

I thought about actually quoting the conversation and putting my summation up for comparison.

Can you explain how he got from my quote stating that "PF is often the result of overtraining" to his question "why don't all prospects get PF?'

 

[big dog cowboy]

Never draft a player in the 2nd round unless he is going to play that same year. Schoonmaker isn't playing pro football in 2023. He's going to end up being yet another 2nd round draft bust for the Cowboys.

Got that noted.

 

[big dog cowboy]

The Cowboys were trying to save money, not "improve their blocking".

Huh? So everyone was lying?

The Cowboys know they needed better run blocking and they needed better pass protection for Dak. Those two things are the best plans for helping Dak get the Cowboys to the promise land. Notice they didn't draft a tackle. Notice they didn't draft a interior lineman. They took the player who could make the biggest impact immediately.

Print the PFF grading on toilet paper. We all know what they are worth. Flushing.

 

[stilltheguru]

I thought about actually quoting the conversation and putting my summation up for comparison.

Can you explain how he got from my quote stating that "PF is often the result of overtraining" to his question "why don't all prospects get PF?'

I'm not getting into all that. I just know you're an.....interesting poster.

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

Huh? So everyone was lying?

The Cowboys know they needed better run blocking and they needed better pass protection for Dak. Those two things are the best plans for helping Dak get the Cowboys to the promise land. Notice they didn't draft a tackle. Notice they didn't draft a interior lineman. They took the player who could make the biggest impact immediately.

Print the PFF grading on toilet paper. We all know what they are worth. Flushing.

Why did the Cowboys try to retain Schultz if they were unhappy with his blocking?

The team understands his blocking skills better than anyone.

We can debate opinions all day long, but it's an indisputable fact that Dallas tried to keep Schultz.

 

[DeaconMoss]

Never has a rookie in recent years had that bust smell about him as strongly as our new TE.

Taco Charlton was pretty stank. Golston was(is) putrid.

 

[PackersNation]

He isn't the first nfl player who had a plantar fascia tear. As long as he's had time to fully heal it shouldn't be an issue. Antonio Gates had an issue in 2010 & 2011 so it is possible to reinjure. But it's been 7 months for Schoonmaker, he's had plenty of time for that thing to heal. Maybe the combine training delayed the healing process?

Yes, he is recovering from a plantar fascia partial tear, but he had Plantar Fasciitis before that, and Plantar Fasciitis is something he is prone to getting again.

I'm just glad that Luke Musgrave and Tucker Kraft are not prone to foot issues and missing time. Very happy with what I have seen so far in camp from the Packers 2 rookie TEs.

 

[kskboys]

No he's not. But he's also not the first player to have it and have it limited him for a long period of time.

Again, I have no idea what his prognosis is. But to me, he seems like a risk we took, again, in the 2nd round because we were drafting for need there.

For need? BS. We have two quality guys already there. I'm not sure what this pick was, but a need pick it was not. A luxury pick, maybe.

 

[kskboys]

Huh? So everyone was lying?

The Cowboys know they needed better run blocking and they needed better pass protection for Dak. Those two things are the best plans for helping Dak get the Cowboys to the promise land. Notice they didn't draft a tackle. Notice they didn't draft a interior lineman. They took the player who could make the biggest impact immediately.

Print the PFF grading on toilet paper. We all know what they are worth. Flushing.

I absolutely do not believe this is the case.

 

[MikeB80]

Bobby Belt said he could be a 1k yard receiver if they wanted him to be.

Nothing to worry about. Bobby Belt said so.

 

[PackersNation]

For need? BS. We have two quality guys already there. I'm not sure what this pick was, but a need pick it was not. A luxury pick, maybe.

You are very confident in and felt TE was set with Jake Ferguson and Peyton Hendershot?

Obviously they drafted Schoonmaker in the 2nd with the hope that he would develop into TE1 quite quickly.

Jake Ferguson is a good dude, but having him as the Cowboys #1 TE did not make anyone feel that TE was not a "need" in the draft.