Scott Linehan on Moore and Rush

[Stash]

Hey, as long as they keep Rush, then Linehan can have his pet cat in Moore.

But if they cut Rush and lose him because they want to keep Moore on the 53, that's beyond moronic.

Of course I'd like to keep Rush, but I'd also like to keep Noah Brown, who I think is better at football than Kellen Moore.

It would be "beyond moronic" to cut Rush to keep Moore, but I also think it would be "moronic" as well to cut Brown for Moore too.

 

[Stash]

Oh and by the way, the whole "Moore has more yards than any QB who has played this preseason" is the dumbest statement yet.

I mean for starters, Moore has played more than anyone and thrown more passes than anyone in preseason. Duh.

The only thing I get from it is an indictment of Linehan, and the lengths that he will go to in order to make excuses for his guy.

 

[jday]

And that's why he will be on the team.

Linehan is probably the reason we have Dak so should we give him a pass?

Linehan's offense is largely responsible for 13 & 3 last year. Granted, he had alot of help from the additions of Dak and Elliott, but someone had to quickly tailor this offense to their strengths and based on title, we have to assume that was Linehan...though, I'm sure Garrett also had a hand in that.

With that said, he has certainly earned a pass, given the fact that the backup QB will likely not see the field often if at all in the upcoming season, so the issue is not as important as say a starting position. But given the woes this team has had in recent history with the backup position, if they keep Kellen over Rush, as I said before, that move alone will certainly earn simultaneous scrutiny from fans and media alike.

 

[adbutcher]

There is certainly some truth to what Linehan says; the fumble wasn't all on Kellen. That said, it does beg the question, why are 3rd stringers playing better for Rush than 2nd stringers are playing for Kellen? From my limited point of view, that could suggest the 3rd stringers have more confidence in their signal caller than the 2nd stringers have in their signal caller. It could also suggest that Rush is calling the correct protections at the line and Kellen isn't making good presnap adjustments to cover his backside.

So, when you balance that against the fact that Rush by far throws a prettier pass than does Kellen, I honestly don't know what is left to debate in terms of who is better? Does Kellen beyond a shadow of doubt do anything better than does Rush to justify being the primary backup to Dak. Once again, from my limited point of view, he does not. But Linehan's view is in no way limited; so if anyone could answer that question, it would be Linehan.

That said, you have to decide: Do you trust Linehan to know better? For my part, I trust Linehan...but I also acknowledge that there is a distinct possibility that Linehan is too inside the picture to see the frame; too close to both quarterbacks to make a fair decision. That aspect of the issue is considerably disconcerting.

That can't be. Kellen has the combined football IQ of Dandy Don, Staubach, Aikman, and Romo. He is our Dak whisperer.

 

[Macnalty]

We are fans we sleep well at night no matter who the backup QB will be. Linehan might have some sleepless nights with this 53 person cut.

 

[Stash]

Well, I am not exactly this massive Brown fan who thinks he's about to supplant Williams and Butler. I think you could slide Brown onto the PS.

Yes, I agree that Moore shouldn't be on the team but that seems like a reality at this point.

I'd be willing to make a bet about getting Brown to the practice squad. Have you seen what some teams in this league have at wide receiver?

Take a look at the New York Jets, the team that scooped up the last receiver (in name only) that this team released.

They'd have a claim in on Noah Brown before the Internet even knew he was released.

 

[Stash]

And that can be just as bad. To lose a player that could help this season over a player that won't, as in that player being Moore.

Even if Brown was inactive all season, which he likely would be, he could continue to learn, improve, and grow for 2018, when Brice Butler is likely too expensive for the Cowboys to keep and moves on.

Kellen Moore has already hit his incredibly low ceiling.

 

[Stash]

There is certainly some truth to what Linehan says; the fumble wasn't all on Kellen. That said, it does beg the question, why are 3rd stringers playing better for Rush than 2nd stringers are playing for Kellen? From my limited point of view, that could suggest the 3rd stringers have more confidence in their signal caller than the 2nd stringers have in their signal caller. It could also suggest that Rush is calling the correct protections at the line and Kellen isn't making good presnap adjustments to cover his backside.

So, when you balance that against the fact that Rush by far throws a prettier pass than does Kellen, I honestly don't know what is left to debate in terms of who is better? Does Kellen beyond a shadow of doubt do anything better than does Rush to justify being the primary backup to Dak. Once again, from my limited point of view, he does not. But Linehan's view is in no way limited; so if anyone could answer that question, it would be Linehan.

That said, you have to decide: Do you trust Linehan to know better? For my part, I trust Linehan...but I also acknowledge that there is a distinct possibility that Linehan is too inside the picture to see the frame; too close to both quarterbacks to make a fair decision. That aspect of the issue is considerably disconcerting.

For me? No, I don't trust Linehan at all on this. Not one bit. He can talk about Moore until he's blue in the face. Anyone trying to defend him can. But it won't change the facts. That he has an arm too weak to play in the NFL, that he's never won a game at this level, and that he's struggled to operate the offense and score points while the other quarterbacks have.

Actions, not words.

 

[jazzcat22]

Even if Brown was inactive all season, which he likely would be, he could continue to learn, improve, and grow for 2018, when Brice Butler is likely too expensive for the Cowboys to keep and moves on.

Kellen Moore has already hit his incredibly low ceiling.

This is what I been thinking and saying since February, draft Noah Brown, some way, some how. Even if he is in-active all season.

 

[Shuff]

This post is disturbing.

 

[jday]

For me? No, I don't trust Linehan at all on this. Not one bit. He can talk about Moore until he's blue in the face. Anyone trying to defend him can. But it won't change the facts. That he has an arm too weak to play in the NFL, that he's never won a game at this level, and that he's struggled to operate the offense and score points while the other quarterbacks have.

Actions, not words.

Agree. 100%. Stash...you know I'm with you on this. That's why I made the point that Linehan might be too close to this issue. Because if he would simply step away from his personal relationship with both these QB's (Kellen & Rush) and just simply consider the facts, this offense is a parody of it's former self when Kellen takes the field following Dak. And then somehow, Rush comes in, and our old efficient, awesome offense is magically back. I think Kellen's practice self may be clouding Linehan's judgement, because according to reports, Kellen looks good in practice. But if he can't do it with the lights on, it simply doesn't matter what he does in practice.

Like Garrett, Linehan may be stubborn...but he's not stupid. If we get more of the same in the next two outings, I honestly don't see how they can justify keeping him. That said, they are going to give Kellen every opportunity to succeed...and I think you and I both agree he has done nothing to deserve even that.

 

[Denim Chicken]

 

[Plankton]

Scott Linehan has lost it

 

[jday]

Hilarious!!!

 

[Daillest88]

Orlando does look like a different player. He was everywhere last game. Hearing this has been his best camp ever too

 

[okstateCowboy]

Linehan was probably asked about Moore. Was he supposed to publicly slam one of his guys?

 

[Stash]

Agree. 100%. Stash...you know I'm with you on this. That's why I made the point that Linehan might be too close to this issue. Because if he would simply step away from his personal relationship with both these QB's (Kellen & Rush) and just simply consider the facts, this offense is a parody of it's former self when Kellen takes the field following Dak. And then somehow, Rush comes in, and our old efficient, awesome offense is magically back. I think Kellen's practice self may be clouding Linehan's judgement, because according to reports, Kellen looks good in practice. But if he can't do it with the lights on, it simply doesn't matter what he does in practice.

Exactly. It's not just conincidence or "unfortunate". It's a pattern. Don't talk to me about how he "knows where to go with the football". When he's playing in a game, the guy can't get it there. I dint care what he sees or processes, his arm can't get the job done.

Like Garrett, Linehan may be stubborn...but he's not stupid. If we get more of the same in the next two outings, I honestly don't see how they can justify keeping him. That said, they are going to give Kellen every opportunity to succeed...and I think you and I both agree he has done nothing to deserve even that.

Based on Garrett's reactions the other night, and what has happened with reps in practice, I don't think it's Linehan's call anymore. And at this point, he needs to look out for himself and not jeopardize his own career banging the Kellen Moore drum or causing a rift with the organization.

For me, it's beyond keeping Cooper Rush over Moore as the #2 quarterback. It's now about keeping Noah Brown over Kellen Moore.

If Linehan loves the guy so much, let him keep him as an assistant coach in training. Then if he gets a head coaching job in the future, Moore can be his offensive coordinator.

 

[Sydla]

Linehan was probably asked about Moore. Was he supposed to publicly slam one of his guys?

No but he doesn't have to be so effusive about him and point out silly stats, such as the fact Moore has more passing yards than any QB in preseason.

 

[Stash]

Linehan was probably asked about Moore. Was he supposed to publicly slam one of his guys?

Should he make ridiculous statement about passing yards when anyone paying attention knows Moore has played an extra game?

 

[Montanalo]

Scott Linehan has lost it

I don't think he has lost as much as this is just "coach speak" to pump Kellen up a bit and to quell some of the negative media. Notice, his positive comments are directed at practice. Even Linehan admits Kellen struggled (my words) in preseason games.

Personally, I would have addressed Kellen game-day struggles right up front, maybe even suggesting he needs to lift his game considerably.