Scott Linehan on Moore and Rush

[Satchel89]

Yeah, ok Orlando. You got hurt as recently as last game attempting to tackle a guy. I wouldn't be making any guarantees.

Ya I always laugh a little when you hear he's salty because he doesn't get the respect he deserves and they didn't need to draft another cornerback because none of them would be better than him. He should be confident in himself but he's been solid. He isn't as good as he thinks. Get over yourself and concentrate on getting an interception. That would be nice.

 

[Montanalo]

We are fans we sleep well at night no matter who the backup QB will be. Linehan might have some sleepless nights with this 53 person cut.

Speak for yourself. I personally will lose sleep if we enter the season with two QBs and Kellen is one of them .

 

[Alexander]

Ugh! Do you really want to go down with that ship Linehan?

He also was good with Weeden, trading for Cassel and having Moore ahead of Prescott on the depth chart.

This is just a public face, but I think he does have excessive devotion to Moore that borders on creepy.

 

[Stash]

He also was good with Weeden, trading for Cassel and having Moore ahead of Prescott on the depth chart.

This is just a public face, but I think he does have excessive devotion to Moore that borders on creepy.

I agree.

But I don't think Garrett does.

In fact, I think Garrett is about done with the Linehan-Moore lovefest. And I think that's who, why, and how the change happened with practice reps.

 

[Alexander]

Hey, as long as they keep Rush, then Linehan can have his pet cat in Moore.

But if they cut Rush and lose him because they want to keep Moore on the 53, that's beyond moronic.

Then the question becomes if he has to play (heaven forbid) what will it take for him to lose faith.

If the first preseason game was "pretty good" and the last two were just inconsistent and "unfortunate", he could stink to high heaven for a while before Rush got the call.

 

[Alexander]

I agree.

But I don't think Garrett does.

In fact, I think Garrett is about done with the Linehan-Moore lovefest. And I think that's who, why, and how the change happened with practice reps.

Garrett. Putting his robotic foot down. Grrr.

As cautious as he is, that is why the "security" of a "smart veteran" like Moore is even a thought.

Most would have him buried third on the depth chart and would have Rush first off the bench in the third preseason game.

That would be a bold statement, not messing around with reps.

 

[Nirvana]

There is some kind of x factor here that we can't measure which is that Moore apparently has a role you could say of Linehan assistant. He supposedly is very good at breaking film down, drawing up game plans, etc. and has been doing this for Linehan to one degree or another. How much he brings to the table in this regard is apparently pretty sizable in Linehan's eyes. I don't know but I think it plays a role in how attached Linehan seems to the guy. It's an obvious cut in my book so that has to be it.

 

[JohnsKey19]

I wouldn't expect Linehan to say anything else. Moore is here ONLY because of him, so naturally he will say anything to protect Moore.

 

[Stash]

Garrett. Putting his robotic foot down. Grrr.

I've been a staunch critic, but that's what I'm seeing here. And if that's what I believe to be true, I'm giving Garrett credit for it.

As cautious as he is, that is why the "security" of a "smart veteran" like Moore is even a thought.

Most would have him buried third on the depth chart and would have Rush first off the bench in the third preseason game.

That would be a bold statement, not messing around with reps.

I'm confident that Rush will be continuing to get chances, in this next game, and likely most, if not all, of the game against Houston. That's more than enough opportunity to show that he's capable of being the #2 and not a fluke. And unless Moore pulls a 180 and Rush stinks it up, there will no longer be any room for doubt.

 

[Stash]

There is some kind of x factor here that we can't measure which is that Moore apparently has a role you could say of Linehan assistant. He supposedly is very good at breaking film down, drawing up game plans, etc. and has been doing this for Linehan to one degree or another. How much he brings to the table in this regard is apparently pretty sizable in Linehan's eyes. I don't know but I think it plays a role in how attached Linehan seems to the guy. It's an obvious cut in my book so that has to be it.

Sounds like an assistant coach, not a player.

 

[Lutonio]

The Cowboys should pay me to scout a back up QB. I'll find someone to lose games for them but for half the salary.

 

[adbutcher]

The Cowboys should pay me to scout a back up QB. I'll find someone to lose games for them but for half the salary.

 

[Idgit]

Moore is on the team this year if he doesn't crap the bed the next two weeks.

Rush will be, too, if he continues to play well. They elevated him this week to see what he's got in the dress rehearsal game to determine whether or not he's as good as he appears to be. After that, he'll go back to third on the depth chart for a season to develop on the roster.

Cutting a player like Noah Brown won't matter. He'll probably make the PS, but if he doesn't, another physically gifted developmental player will be along shortly. Or, if he makes the roster outright, whoever the 54th guy is, we'll somehow learn to live without his backup services this season.

 

[jday]

For me, it's beyond keeping Cooper Rush over Moore as the #2 quarterback. It's now about keeping Noah Brown over Kellen Moore.

If Linehan loves the guy so much, let him keep him as an assistant coach in training. Then if he gets a head coaching job in the future, Moore can be his offensive coordinator.

That would certainly be the aspect of keeping Moore I would hate; keeping him over a guy that is better at their perspective craft then Moore is at being quarterback. And has been stated over and over, there is likely no risk of anyone picking Moore up off of waivers, so it seems like a fairly simple decision. If you are trying decide who to keep and who to not keep, knowing that Moore will still be available in the unlikely event that we need him again, should make the decision easy. Of course, no decision is easy when you have a million dollar salary riding on it...so I can kinda understand their collective trepidation in cutting Moore. Just remember I'm placing very heavy inflection on "kinda."

 

[Idgit]

That would certainly be the aspect of keeping Moore I would hate; keeping him over a guy that is better at their perspective craft then Moore is at being quarterback. And has been stated over and over, there is likely no risk of anyone picking Moore up off of waivers, so it seems like a fairly simple decision. If you are trying decide who to keep and who to not keep, knowing that Moore will still be available in the unlikely event that we need him again, should make the decision easy. Of course, no decision is easy when you have a million dollar salary riding on it...so I can kinda understand their collective trepidation in cutting Moore. Just remember I'm placing very heavy inflection on "kinda."

I think they like him specifically in the QB room to help the other guys along.

We carried Sanchez all last season and somehow managed. I don't get why people are so concerned about the 3rd QB spot now. With a 2nd year starter and a rookie you may want to develop, it seems like a reasonable time to keep 3 if you're ever going to.

 

[JW82]

Ugh! Do you really want to go down with that ship Linehan?

Seriously, he needs to let it go.

 

[casmith07]

There is certainly some truth to what Linehan says; the fumble wasn't all on Kellen. That said, it does beg the question, why are 3rd stringers playing better for Rush than 2nd stringers are playing for Kellen? From my limited point of view, that could suggest the 3rd stringers have more confidence in their signal caller than the 2nd stringers have in their signal caller. It could also suggest that Rush is calling the correct protections at the line and Kellen isn't making good presnap adjustments to cover his backside.

So, when you balance that against the fact that Rush by far throws a prettier pass than does Kellen, I honestly don't know what is left to debate in terms of who is better? Does Kellen beyond a shadow of doubt do anything better than does Rush to justify being the primary backup to Dak. Once again, from my limited point of view, he does not. But Linehan's view is in no way limited; so if anyone could answer that question, it would be Linehan.

That said, you have to decide: Do you trust Linehan to know better? For my part, I trust Linehan...but I also acknowledge that there is a distinct possibility that Linehan is too inside the picture to see the frame; too close to both quarterbacks to make a fair decision. That aspect of the issue is considerably disconcerting.

I think the thing with football and other sports too is this -- sometimes people overthink things way too much. Cooper Rush passes the eyeball test! He looks like he can play quarterback in the NFL. He's nowhere near as good as Prescott, but I wouldn't be shocked to see Rush get a starting gig in the league somewhere at some point - a team that's QB starved like SF, JAX, etc.

Kellen Moore can't play. Period. That fumble is 100% on him. He didn't slide into the pocket where it materialized, held the ball low, and didn't secure it. Period.

The only reason this is even an issue is because Linehan coached Moore in Detroit and likes him. Kellen Moore would not be given this much opportunity on any team except the other two I named - SF and JAX, because their QB situations are absolutely atrocious. Maybe Cleveland if they didn't have DeShone Kizer.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Scott Linehan has lost it

I honestly thought he was talking about rush until he mentioned the fumble.

 

[Jake]

Maybe Linny is trying to talk up Moore so we can trade him and keep Rush. A man can dream, can't he?

Trade Moore to whom? The Cleveland Gladiators?

 

[CowboyRoy]

Honestly, if the Cowboys keep Rush at the expense of absorbing 3 spots on the 53, I'll get over Kellen Moore's presence. But if they cut Rush to keep Moore, I'll have some serious concerns about our coaches decision making. From my perspective, though, like you, the most ideal scenario would be to move on from Kellen. But given Linehan's crush on Kellen, I simply don't see that happening. I hope for it, but I doubt it.

Agreed. As long as they keep Rush, I dont care what they do with Moore. A team should have 3 QB's at all time anyway. This 2 QB things is silly to me. To keep some 9th lineman or 7th linebacker or extra WR is silly compared to finding and developing the most important position in football.