SD: Source: Dallas Cowboys sign former Jacksonville Jaguars DE Ryan Davis to roster

[BAT]

What would you have done at DE this seasons

We should have signed Davis earlier. Many were way ahead of Garrett and Jones' on this one.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

We should have signed Davis earlier. Many were way ahead of Garrett and Jones' on this one.

That hardly sounds like enough but idk are we in a rebuild or a regroup or what it feels like business dictates the direction of the franchise

 

[BAT]

That hardly sounds like enough but idk are we in a rebuild or a regroup or what it feels like business dictates the direction of the franchise

Knowing this organization, only cheaply attained D players are coveted. Building up Mayowa, TCraw, Thornton, Wilber, Collins, even Russell all preseason, even saying they were happy with who they had and we're unwilling to make any moves, is the height of irresponsibility or just sheer incompetence.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Not a bad signing at this late date. In reality, the time to fix DE was months ago but hopefully this guy can provide a little something.

Dallas seems to wait till there is a crisis and then they react. We all knew the writing on the wall when it came to the passrush. I don'rt know why Dallas waits months or even years before they try and do something. By then its already too late.

 

[jobberone]

Who drops from the 53 players on the squad?

Swanson was dropped earlier.

You may see more vets added since we are past the week one vested date. My guess that is why we signed Davis after week one to avoid guaranteeing his entire salary. He was signed to a one year deal.

 

[jobberone]

Knowing this organization, only cheaply attained D players are coveted. Building up Mayowa, TCraw, Thornton, Wilber, Collins, even Russell all preseason, even saying they were happy with who they had and we're unwilling to make any moves, is the height of irresponsibility or just sheer incompetence.

We picked up a decent player after week one and avoided overpaying for the vets out there. As mentioned earlier signing Davis after week one avoids guaranteeing his salary. There was no one worth signing to a large contract. It's frustrating to have to do nothing but that is better than doing something unwise.

With Davis and Lawrence back and maybe Gregory (I doubt after another three games but hopefully so) back we will have a decent DL. That DL and some judicious blitzing will get us enough pressure to see better back end play and hopefully some TOs.

 

[visionary]

Not sure where I offered any excuses there, Mr. Wizard but OK.

Run along, now.

Excuses are what you are all about

 

[gimmesix]

Brandon Carr was once considered the best CB available in FA.

And he's been a starter here since we signed him, with various levels of success.

The equivalent of this situation would have been signing someone like Sterling Moore to be our starting corner that year.

Free agency is hit and miss, and Dallas has failed with both the big spender and tightwad approaches. I believe there's a middle ground where you do supplement an almost-complete team with a high-priced acquisitions.

Teams are built on talent and going the cheap route only fills your roster with players who can hold the fort but don't have the ability to defeat the enemy. I'd rather see the team go after one player considered to be a major talent each year than add several mediocre ones.

If we had done that, adding players to this defensive line who can actually get after the passer, then I'd bet even Carr would be looking better to us than he does on a team among the worst in sacks the last couple of years.

(Yes, I know we added Hardy last year, but the only reason we were able to do that is because he had issues.)

 

[xwalker]

And he's been a starter here since we signed him, with various levels of success.

The equivalent of this situation would have been signing someone like Sterling Moore to be our starting corner that year.

Free agency is hit and miss, and Dallas has failed with both the big spender and tightwad approaches. I believe there's a middle ground where you do supplement an almost-complete team with a high-priced acquisitions.

Teams are built on talent and going the cheap route only fills your roster with players who can hold the fort but don't have the ability to defeat the enemy. I'd rather see the team go after one player considered to be a major talent each year than add several mediocre ones.

If we had done that, adding players to this defensive line who can actually get after the passer, then I'd bet even Carr would be looking better to us than he does on a team among the worst in sacks the last couple of years.

(Yes, I know we added Hardy last year, but the only reason we were able to do that is because he had issues.)

Yes, adding top free agents can be great. I just don't want to go into any specific offseason determined to absolutely get a specific position filled. That's like reaching for need in the draft.

 

[gimmesix]

Yes, adding top free agents can be great. I just don't want to go into any specific offseason determined to absolutely get a specific position filled. That's like reaching for need in the draft.

Hmmm ... I think free agency is for filling specific needs.

I think it's harder to draft for specific needs because you can't predict who is going to be available when you pick. Going into free agency, you know exactly who is going to be available. Now, you have to judge how much you are willing to pay for them, but I certainly see no problem with doing what the Giants did this year. In fact, I applaud it. They saw they had a real issue on defense and they addressed it with the best free agents they could find. It might not turn out the way that they want, but at least they were bold to go after Vernon, Harrison and Jenkins while holding on to Pierre-Paul.

What might have happened if we had done that in 2014 instead of signing get-by guys or guys coming off injuries.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Hmmm ... I think free agency is for filling specific needs.

I think it's harder to draft for specific needs because you can't predict who is going to be available when you pick. Going into free agency, you know exactly who is going to be available. Now, you have to judge how much you are willing to pay for them, but I certainly see no problem with doing what the Giants did this year. In fact, I applaud it. They saw they had a real issue on defense and they addressed it with the best free agents they could find. It might not turn out the way that they want, but at least they were bold to go after Vernon, Harrison and Jenkins while holding on to Pierre-Paul.

What might have happened if we had done that in 2014 instead of signing get-by guys or guys coming off injuries.

Who's to say the approach we took in 2014 was why we had success? Free agency hasn't been kind to us and pretty much any team in this league not named Denver.

 

[xwalker]

Hmmm ... I think free agency is for filling specific needs.

I think it's harder to draft for specific needs because you can't predict who is going to be available when you pick. Going into free agency, you know exactly who is going to be available. Now, you have to judge how much you are willing to pay for them, but I certainly see no problem with doing what the Giants did this year. In fact, I applaud it. They saw they had a real issue on defense and they addressed it with the best free agents they could find. It might not turn out the way that they want, but at least they were bold to go after Vernon, Harrison and Jenkins while holding on to Pierre-Paul.

What might have happened if we had done that in 2014 instead of signing get-by guys or guys coming off injuries.

What some people here are suggesting is to just sign the best free agentvin a specific year or one of the best.

Only a few differencing making free agents are available each year and there might not be any at a specific position. Predeterming to sign one then forces you to take whatever is available at that position. It there is no true difference maker available then you spend money on an ok player but likely then can't spend at that position the following years when a better player that is a better fit becomes available. It's what they did with Brandon Carr.

Free Agency in terms of difference makers is a low volume issue. It lacks liquidity in stock market terms. You can't just expect to find a good match each year just because you decided to spend money.

 

[gimmesix]

What some people here are suggesting is to just sign the best free agentvin a specific year or one of the best.

Only a few differencing making free agents are available each year and there might not be any at a specific position. Predeterming to sign one then forces you to take whatever is available at that position. It there is no true difference maker available then you spend money on an ok player but likely then can't spend at that position the following years when a better player that is a better fit becomes available. It's what they did with Brandon Carr.

Free Agency in terms of difference makers is a low volume issue. It lacks liquidity in stock market terms. You can't just expect to find a good match each year just because you decided to spend money.

I agree that the market has to match your need.

I wasn't for getting rid of DeMarcus Ware after the 2013 season for that reason. There simply wasn't a sure bet in free agency to replace him. Instead, we brought in players like Mincey. I understood the reasons we decided to sever ties with him (age, injuries), but would have much rather kept an injury-prone Ware considering the options.

In choosing to not re-sign Ware, our options were going after other "nearly washed-up_ players like Julius Peppers or Jared Allen or overplaying for less-proven talents like Michael Johnson and Lamarr Houston. Michael Bennett might have been the only proven option who was still fairly young.

You can't let a player like Ware go and expect to get better on defense by getting worse on the line.

 

[Ultra Warrior]

He's sacking Eli in the image, so that's good enough for me.

 

[cowboys2233]

Sack leader. Hmmmmm.

CHAmpionship.

 

[LocimusPrime]

Knowing this organization, only cheaply attained D players are coveted. Building up Mayowa, TCraw, Thornton, Wilber, Collins, even Russell all preseason, even saying they were happy with who they had and we're unwilling to make any moves, is the height of irresponsibility or just sheer incompetence.

Why are we so cheap on defense? I don't understand. All of sudden we go cheap cheap cheap. You get what you pay for.

 

[jobberone]

Knowing this organization, only cheaply attained D players are coveted. Building up Mayowa, TCraw, Thornton, Wilber, Collins, even Russell all preseason, even saying they were happy with who they had and we're unwilling to make any moves, is the height of irresponsibility or just sheer incompetence.

And target whom? Most teams are avoiding high priced vets as they don't generally work out.

If you want to rehash it and be resentful then Gregory is a fair target. Many here thought we should go after a DL instead of a RB.

 

[jobberone]

Why are we so cheap on defense? I don't understand. All of sudden we go cheap cheap cheap. You get what you pay for.

Not with high priced vets. Not often enough.

 

[Stash]

Dallas seems to wait till there is a crisis and then they react. We all knew the writing on the wall when it came to the passrush. I don'rt know why Dallas waits months or even years before they try and do something. By then its already too late.

Confirms who was right and who was wrong.

 

[dallasdave]

We should have signed Davis earlier. Many were way ahead of Garrett and Jones' on this one.