Sean Payton: If a team hires me, the Saints will ask for a mid-to-late first-round pick

[TheMarathonContinues]

What about

Taco Charlton or Sean Payton?
Byron Jones or Sean Payton?
Morris Claiborne or Sean Payton?
Leighton Vander Esch or Sean Payton?

It works both ways. If you want value, you have to give up value to get it

This is silly. There are coaches all over this league and very few have had 1st rounders traded for them. If the Cowboys want to make a coaching change that's fine but a fool would trade to do it. I wouldn't trade LVE or Mo for a coach. Taco? Maybe.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Who has Payton found at QB? Saints STILL haven't found a replacement for Brees.

He had Brees for what… 15 of his 16 years? You’re basing his entire career on a 1 year circumstance?

 

[Cowboys0988]

A 1st round pick for a head coach no more successful than the one we already got?

Sign me up!

Exactly. The resume is a copy of each others.

 

[Stash]

I haven’t seen anyone drop a 1st round pick on him yet!!! Before it’s said and done I wouldn’t be surprised if it turned into a 2nd along with a 3rd/4th next year and cash.

Oh I think they’re definitely getting that 1st round pick. Remember, they’re telling these teams that’s the price to talk with him.

And they’re all still in.

 

[Stash]

It'll be a moot point after tonight.

I think some of you are forgetting about Tony Pollard.

Hope you’re right!

 

[exciter]

Oh I think they’re definitely getting that 1st round pick. Remember, they’re telling these teams that’s the price to talk with him.

And they’re all still in.

Payton can talk to whoever he wants to, they work out compensation with the Saints afterwards. You really think Houston has agreed to give up the #2 overall pick?

 

[Stash]

Payton can talk to whoever he wants to, they work out compensation with the Saints afterwards. You really think Houston has agreed to give up the #2 overall pick?

I know what the Saints have told interested teams.

If you want to try to deny that, have at it.

 

[Proof]

I do get how contracts work….goods and or services in return for compensation.

They aren’t paying him and he isn’t providing those services. They retain his rights within a certain framework (the NFL).

This prevents Payton from coaching elsewhere without NOs blessing, but they cannot take an unreasonable stance like….’we want ten first round picks, etc,” effectively preventing Payton from earning a living in the league again.

Now, the team could offer him his job back and Payton would have no choice but to take it….other than stay out of the league….but would a team really do that? At that point he already decided to move on and go elsewhere. That’s who you want running the organization? So the team has moved on also.

That’s one of the main differences between one single player and this case. Add in that players have a finite time frame to earn, coaches can go much longer….and lastly, the rules dictate that a player must have a certain amount of service time that they don’t accumulate in retirement before they have any leverage at all really

Comparing this to a particular player is apples and oranges.

no. it’s literal apples to apples. if you sign a contract for a certain amount of time you honor it or remain unemployed, unless agreed upon remuneration is made. not the first time, not the last

 

[exciter]

I know what the Saints have told interested teams.

If you want to try to deny that, have at it.

Lol, so the Saints told a team that doesn’t have a first round pick that they can interview him for a first round pick? The Texans have agreed to give the Saints the 2nd overall pick if they hire him. You’re confusing what Loomis has told Payton the compensation will be. Nothing has been worked out and won’t be until someone hires him!

 

[Mannix]

Payton would have INTIMATE knowledge of the offense being run if he were the HC....please remember that Corky was stupid enough to admit to not knowing the offensive playbook....come again....I hope Booger is keeping a running checklist of all these lazy habits. Again....just what does he do?????

 

[ghst187]

Worked once long ago for Chucky…

 

[CTcowboy203]

Payton can talk to whoever he wants to, they work out compensation with the Saints afterwards. You really think Houston has agreed to give up the #2 overall pick?

The Texans have 2 first round picks. It doesn’t have to be the 2nd overall pick.

 

[CTcowboy203]

Lol, so the Saints told a team that doesn’t have a first round pick that they can interview him for a first round pick? The Texans have agreed to give the Saints the 2nd overall pick if they hire him. You’re confusing what Loomis has told Payton the compensation will be. Nothing has been worked out and won’t be until someone hires him!

They can also trade a future first round pick you know that right?

 

[exciter]

They can also trade a future first round pick you know that right?

Lol! I’m still right! You know that right?

 

[CTcowboy203]

Lol! I’m still right! You know that right?

No. I see someone making no sense at all and failing to understand that a pre-requisite to any talking of other teams owners come with the understanding that a first round pick is to be traded.

While paper work and contracts can’t be signed- he’s lining up meetings with teams based upon the existing condition that a first round pick is the compensation before and or if a salary is to be negotiated. Therefore it is agreed upon by all parties that before any hire a baseline for draft capital is already established otherwise there would be no meetings with said teams.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

He had Brees for what… 15 of his 16 years? You’re basing his entire career on a 1 year circumstance?

Why the hell wouldn't I? What should I base it off of? Him getting Brees 20 years ago? He's also the one who co-signed on Taysom Hill who's a solid gadget guy but not a damn QB. He's done nothing to suggest he's some QB guru.

 

[Bigrandrn]

A 1st round pick for a head coach no more successful than the one we already got?

Sign me up!

I don’t know…..I never payed close enough attention to him with the saints…..my thing is it’s all about what each coach gets out of the players

If SP comes to Dallas, 2 things happen… possibly 3.
1- Payton calls plays.
2- Moore is gone.
And possibly 3 - Fangio comes with him bc Quinn is probably gone.
This all sounds good to me. Although Im still OK w McCarthy.

i think we need more of an alpha mentality with this team, more of a hard ***…..don’t know if Payton is that…..I have a feeling he would be better than big Mike, but I don’t know by how much. We should have got Peterson….the job he did with Philly proved what he can do….and I see it with the Jags

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Why the hell wouldn't I? What should I base it off of? Him getting Brees 20 years ago? He's also the one who co-signed on Taysom Hill who's a solid gadget guy but not a damn QB. He's done nothing to suggest he's some QB guru.

Are you implying you expect the next coach to move on from or change Dak? What is the insistence on him needing to be one?

 

[exciter]

No. I see someone making no sense at all and failing to understand that a pre-requisite to any talking of other teams owners come with the understanding that a first round pick is to be traded.

While paper work and contracts can’t be signed- he’s lining up meetings with teams based upon the existing condition that a first round pick is the compensation before and or if a salary is to be negotiated. Therefore it is agreed upon by all parties that before any hire a baseline for draft capital is already established otherwise there would be no meetings with said teams.

That not what they said on Saints sports radio. That’s not what they said multiple times during the eagles and saints game!!!

 

[Toro9]

KMA.