Sean Taylor fined 4 games checks, will not be suspended

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abersonc said:
Commish's designee for player suspensions is Gene Washington.

Yes, techically Tags is in charge of everything that comes out of the office but part of Washington's job is to oversee suspensions.

It is just plain conspiracy theory-level thinking to believe Tags is influencing this outcome.

Actually I think it's more of a joke, that seems applicable since previous similar offenders actually DID recieve suspensions for their off the field shenanigans.
 

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abersonc said:
Note that commishioner here refers to the office of the commishioner. Also note that throughout the CBA you will read "commish" -- That doesn't mean Tags does everything. It means his OFFICE is responsible and he can delegate tasks in any way he sees fit.

Within the office, people have different responsibilities -- Gene Washington is, and has been, in charge of discipline for several years now.


It does not say Commisioners office it says "the" commisioner


While Washington is in charge of dicipline he does not do it without the input of Tags, because While Washington may hold the responsibility. it would be silly IMO to assume Tags has no control over it
 

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dallasfan31 said:
sean taylor a bad boy one off my fav players i glad he not going miss any games. i am dirhard cowboy fan but love great football players on other teams.


That's cool...


but why do you like Sean Taylor?
 

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SultanOfSix said:
So, Irvin gets an "extra" game suspension (instead of the standard four), whereas a 'Skin, whose crime was equally as despicable (one could argue more because violence was actually involved), gets off without even a slap on the wrist. How fitting for a biased commish.
burmafrd said:
once again a skin skates by with less then what any other team player would get. He should have been suspended for at least one game.
:rolleyes:

Sean pleaded no contest to 2 misdemeanors. You don't get suspended for misdemeanors. Irvin pleaded no contest to felony cocaine possesion.
 

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random Cs said:
:rolleyes:

Sean pleaded no contest to 2 misdemeanors. You don't get suspended for misdemeanors. Irvin pleaded no contest to felony cocaine possesion.

I really wish you Skins fans knew how to read. It IS fundamental, you know.

http://www.sptimes.com/2004/03/26/Bucs/Pittman_pleads_guilty.shtml

In addition to court-imposed penalties, Pittman faces sanctioning from the NFL for his second violation of its personal conduct policy. His guilty plea to the two misdemeanor charges in 2001 resulted in a one-game suspension, and the penalty for this violation is left to the discretion of NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue.
 

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good he is not for no games a great football player needs to be on the filed. one off my fav players and i diehard cowboy fan. but like good football players.
 

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BigDFan5 said:
It does not say Commisioners office it says "the" commisioner


While Washington is in charge of dicipline he does not do it without the input of Tags, because While Washington may hold the responsibility. it would be silly IMO to assume Tags has no control over it

Washington is responsible for disipline involving on-the-field issues. Tagliabue handles the off-the-field stuff. They might work together on both, but that's primarily how it works.
 

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dallasfan31 said:
good he is not for no games a great football player needs to be on the filed. one off my fav players and i diehard cowboy fan. but like good football players.



Are you mental? You pretty much already posted this EXACT post in this thread.


And I say again, good you like great football players... but why do you like Sean Taylor?
 

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superpunk said:
I really wish you Skins fans knew how to read. It IS fundamental, you know.
Fine, I stand corrected.

Pittman had 2 different incidents in 2001 though.
 

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random Cs said:
Fine, I stand corrected.

Pittman had 2 different incidents in 2001 though.

And he was suspended for the first one.

It remains unclear why Taylor's punishment is any different.
 

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BigDFan5 said:
It does not say Commisioners office it says "the" commisioner


While Washington is in charge of dicipline he does not do it without the input of Tags, because While Washington may hold the responsibility. it would be silly IMO to assume Tags has no control over it

The Commishioner runs the office - like any office he can delegate. You will note that there is no mention of any specific position in the office in the CBA - so by your definition, that would mean that Tags has to do everything himself.

I think it is far more silly to assume that Tags favors the Skins -- since each punishment sets a precedent for future punishments -- if the office is inconsistent (and we'd really have to read their full report to get a true sense of the case) then that opens them up to appeals from the NFLPA on every punishment - I'm guessing with the player's union watching like hawks that the league office takes considerable care to be even handed.
 

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random Cs said:
:rolleyes:

Sean pleaded no contest to 2 misdemeanors. You don't get suspended for misdemeanors. Irvin pleaded no contest to felony cocaine possesion.

Mike Doss suspended 2 games for misdemeanor link

Michael Pittman suspended for Misdemeanor link



These are just off the top of my head.
 

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AdamJT13 said:
Washington is responsible for disipline involving on-the-field issues. Tagliabue handles the off-the-field stuff. They might work together on both, but that's primarily how it works.


Thank you. The my point stands that Tags was responsible in this instance.
 

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abersonc said:
The Commishioner runs the office - like any office he can delegate. You will note that there is no mention of any specific position in the office in the CBA - so by your definition, that would mean that Tags has to do everything himself.

I think it is far more silly to assume that Tags favors the Skins -- since each punishment sets a precedent for future punishments -- if the office is inconsistent (and we'd really have to read their full report to get a true sense of the case) then that opens them up to appeals from the NFLPA on every punishment - I'm guessing with the player's union watching like hawks that the league office takes considerable care to be even handed.


As Adam confirmed already Tags handles dicipline for off field incidents. Now why is this incident not subject to suspention?
 

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BigDFan5 said:
As Adam confirmed already Tags handles dicipline for off field incidents. Now why is this incident not subject to suspention?

If true, I stand corrected. But I'd still like to see a link on that.

My assumption would be that, like the prosecutors in the Taylor case, the league found some pretty weak evidence.

This technically would be a first offense since charges were dropped in the DUI case -- and it is a misdemeanor that he pleaded no contest to -- the rules state he can be fined, suspended, or both. But there is no automatic suspension here.
 

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abersonc said:
If ture, I stand corrected. But I'd still like to see a link on that.

My assumption would be that, like the prosecutors in the Taylor case, the league found some pretty weak evidence.

This technically would be a first offense since charges were dropped in the DUI case -- and it is a misdemeanor that he pleaded no contest to -- the rules state he can be fined, suspended, or both. But there is no automatic suspension here.

The precedent has been set - which is why this is so puzzling.
 

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superpunk said:
And he was suspended for the first one.

It remains unclear why Taylor's punishment is any different.
Maybe because Pittman was beating his wife and Sean got into a fight with another man.
 
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