Separated at Birth: Russell Wilson and Tony Romo

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TheRomoSexual

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Hey, someone who wants to have a decent conversation about football.

I've enjoyed watching Wilson play since his final season at Wisconson. I honestly didn't know who he was going into his final season, but caught the first game of the year, and was thoroughly impressed with what I saw. I decided that I wouldn't miss another game, and I'm glad I didn't. Wilson, to me, is a guy who has ice water running through his veins. Not that he is Tiger Woods, but he seems to have the same mental toughness Tiger did when he was younger, the look of someone who isn't phased by anything. I've managed to catch every game of Wilson's since he's entered the league, and that aspect of him hasn't changed a bit. Wilson is a phenomenal athlete, especially for a QB. He has the ability to turn nothing into a huge play, he's a great decision maker, and has been THE leader of the team since day one.

His arm strength and accuracy are up there with anyone in the league, his speed and agility is up there with anyone in the league, and I truly don't think that Seattle would be as dominant as they are without him. As for the conversation of him vs. Romo. Romo is also a great athlete, while he's not the same kind of athlete, he has a way of making things happen when there's nothing there, just like Wilson. He's got a great arm, he's got great accuracy. Where I think Wilson sets himself apart is decision making, and the mental toughness. While I recognize that it takes a certain level of mental toughness to make it to the point of being a starting NFL QB, there's a certain "it-factor", and you either have it, or you don't. Having watched Wilson for the past three seasons (last year at Wisconson, two in Seattle), I'm confident that he has "it" mentally. Sadly, in his first year as a Seahawk, he's already surpassed Romo in playoff wins. GRANTED, he does have the better defense, but I'd argue that he has less to work with on offense than Romo does (minus Lynch).

If Romo was 24 years old, I'd be extremely optimistic about him being a champion at some point, unfortunately, the reality is that the guy is in his twilight years, and at this point in his career, he simply is what he is. He's a guy that puts up some amazing numbers, there's no denying that. But he's also a guy that just doesn't always get it done when it counts (Broncos game, Commanders game, etc...). With a guy his age, I just don't think that you can teach an old dog new tricks (very cliche, I know). Is he a bad QB? Absolutely not. Would 20 or so other teams welcome him with open arms? Absolutely. Is he a championship caliber QB? I honestly don't think so. I really just don't think that he has that cerebral mentality that you need to carry a team to a Super Bowl, and in Dallas, the ring is all that counts, it's what sets us apart from the Buffalo's, Cleveland's, and Jacksonville's of the world.

Hahahahah, wow, I've never read so many words without a single shred of evidence. And when you have to resort to the "it" factor, you know you're reaching.
 

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Hey, someone who wants to have a decent conversation about football.

I've enjoyed watching Wilson play since his final season at Wisconson. I honestly didn't know who he was going into his final season, but caught the first game of the year, and was thoroughly impressed with what I saw. I decided that I wouldn't miss another game, and I'm glad I didn't. Wilson, to me, is a guy who has ice water running through his veins. Not that he is Tiger Woods, but he seems to have the same mental toughness Tiger did when he was younger, the look of someone who isn't phased by anything. I've managed to catch every game of Wilson's since he's entered the league, and that aspect of him hasn't changed a bit. Wilson is a phenomenal athlete, especially for a QB. He has the ability to turn nothing into a huge play, he's a great decision maker, and has been THE leader of the team since day one.

His arm strength and accuracy are up there with anyone in the league, his speed and agility is up there with anyone in the league, and I truly don't think that Seattle would be as dominant as they are without him. As for the conversation of him vs. Romo. Romo is also a great athlete, while he's not the same kind of athlete, he has a way of making things happen when there's nothing there, just like Wilson. He's got a great arm, he's got great accuracy. Where I think Wilson sets himself apart is decision making, and the mental toughness. While I recognize that it takes a certain level of mental toughness to make it to the point of being a starting NFL QB, there's a certain "it-factor", and you either have it, or you don't. Having watched Wilson for the past three seasons (last year at Wisconson, two in Seattle), I'm confident that he has "it" mentally. Sadly, in his first year as a Seahawk, he's already surpassed Romo in playoff wins. GRANTED, he does have the better defense, but I'd argue that he has less to work with on offense than Romo does (minus Lynch).

If Romo was 24 years old, I'd be extremely optimistic about him being a champion at some point, unfortunately, the reality is that the guy is in his twilight years, and at this point in his career, he simply is what he is. He's a guy that puts up some amazing numbers, there's no denying that. But he's also a guy that just doesn't always get it done when it counts (Broncos game, Commanders game, etc...). With a guy his age, I just don't think that you can teach an old dog new tricks (very cliche, I know). Is he a bad QB? Absolutely not. Would 20 or so other teams welcome him with open arms? Absolutely. Is he a championship caliber QB? I honestly don't think so. I really just don't think that he has that cerebral mentality that you need to carry a team to a Super Bowl, and in Dallas, the ring is all that counts, it's what sets us apart from the Buffalo's, Cleveland's, and Jacksonville's of the world.

Fair enough.
 

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No, it's really not. It's all drivel, without a single substantive fact to back it up.

I think he has a point about good, quick decision making and mental toughness being things that you either have or you don't.

You don't have to agree, but not everything is about the numbers they put up.
 

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I think he has a point about good, quick decision making and mental toughness being things that you either have or you don't.

You don't have to agree, but not everything is about the numbers they put up.

Give me a break. "Mental toughness" is a phrase you use when you have absolutely no evidence to back your point.
 

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Give me a break. "Mental toughness" is a phrase you use when you have absolutely no evidence to back your point.

Like i said, you don't have to agree, but numbers aren't everything, imo.

Romo knows that more than anyone though..
 

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Wilson benefits from having a great defense and I seriously doubt he would be as effective with a lesser defense.....and besides he looks like terrorist bomber.
 

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Like i said, you don't have to agree, but numbers aren't everything, imo.

Romo knows that more than anyone though..

So, you have nothing else to offer either? Good to know. As another poster pointed out, Romo has an insanely high 4th quarter QBR, which is totally indicative of a mentally weak QB. But hey, "numbers aren't everything," which is just another way to say, "Um...I have no actual facts to back my point, so I'm going to use generic phrases like 'mental toughness.'"
 

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Except, you know, I actually a bunch of stats backing my point earlier. But good job not reading the entire thread.

"I actually a bunch"? Speaking another language now?

You know what, I'll play your game. Hit me with your reasoning why Romo is a better player, and I really don't want to hear "because he has a better QBR". Thanks.
 

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Still waiting. Oh, and that was great pocket awareness on his third or fourth fumble (Too many) of the night.

Go back to selling ticket out of you're moms basement. Come back when you have some real numbers to back that talk up
 

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"I actually a bunch"? Speaking another language now?

You know what, I'll play your game. Hit me with your reasoning why Romo is a better player, and I really don't want to hear "because he has a better QBR". Thanks.

So, you don't like to hear "facts" huh?

Romo has more yards. He has more TDs. He has a higher 4th quarter QBR. He has a much higher completion rating. By every objective metric, he is a better quarterback.

But hey, you have "mental toughness," which is complete nonsense.
 

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Hey, someone who wants to have a decent conversation about football.

I've enjoyed watching Wilson play since his final season at Wisconson. I honestly didn't know who he was going into his final season, but caught the first game of the year, and was thoroughly impressed with what I saw. I decided that I wouldn't miss another game, and I'm glad I didn't. Wilson, to me, is a guy who has ice water running through his veins. Not that he is Tiger Woods, but he seems to have the same mental toughness Tiger did when he was younger, the look of someone who isn't phased by anything. I've managed to catch every game of Wilson's since he's entered the league, and that aspect of him hasn't changed a bit. Wilson is a phenomenal athlete, especially for a QB. He has the ability to turn nothing into a huge play, he's a great decision maker, and has been THE leader of the team since day one.

His arm strength and accuracy are up there with anyone in the league, his speed and agility is up there with anyone in the league, and I truly don't think that Seattle would be as dominant as they are without him. As for the conversation of him vs. Romo. Romo is also a great athlete, while he's not the same kind of athlete, he has a way of making things happen when there's nothing there, just like Wilson. He's got a great arm, he's got great accuracy. Where I think Wilson sets himself apart is decision making, and the mental toughness. While I recognize that it takes a certain level of mental toughness to make it to the point of being a starting NFL QB, there's a certain "it-factor", and you either have it, or you don't. Having watched Wilson for the past three seasons (last year at Wisconson, two in Seattle), I'm confident that he has "it" mentally. Sadly, in his first year as a Seahawk, he's already surpassed Romo in playoff wins. GRANTED, he does have the better defense, but I'd argue that he has less to work with on offense than Romo does (minus Lynch).

If Romo was 24 years old, I'd be extremely optimistic about him being a champion at some point, unfortunately, the reality is that the guy is in his twilight years, and at this point in his career, he simply is what he is. He's a guy that puts up some amazing numbers, there's no denying that. But he's also a guy that just doesn't always get it done when it counts (Broncos game, Commanders game, etc...). With a guy his age, I just don't think that you can teach an old dog new tricks (very cliche, I know). Is he a bad QB? Absolutely not. Would 20 or so other teams welcome him with open arms? Absolutely. Is he a championship caliber QB? I honestly don't think so. I really just don't think that he has that cerebral mentality that you need to carry a team to a Super Bowl, and in Dallas, the ring is all that counts, it's what sets us apart from the Buffalo's, Cleveland's, and Jacksonville's of the world.

Excellent post. Being a huge Cowboy/Romo fan living in Seattle, I appreciate and echo many of your opinions.

While I agree Wilson's "mentality" and athletic ability are top level for a QB, his accuracy and decision making are not there yet.
 

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So, you have nothing else to offer either? Good to know. As another poster pointed out, Romo has an insanely high 4th quarter QBR, which is totally indicative of a mentally weak QB. But hey, "numbers aren't everything," which is just another way to say, "Um...I have no actual facts to back my point, so I'm going to use generic phrases like 'mental toughness.'"

Would you like an example?

Romo played a hall of fame caliber game the other week, and then right at the end, we blew it.

Was it all his fault we lost? Certainly.. no.

Did he have the ball put in his hands at the end of a game with a chance to lock it down? Yes.. and blew it.

Im sure aside from that pick at the very end, his fourth quarter numbers were much like his first three quarter numbers.. phenomenal.

But again.. we didn't get the job done.

Like i said, numbers aren't everything. Im sure Romo would trade in all his statistical success in a minute for even a couple more playoff wins.
 

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I think he has a point about good, quick decision making and mental toughness being things that you either have or you don't.

You don't have to agree, but not everything is about the numbers they put up.

How does that make him better then Romo? I think he is better them Kap and light years better then RGOverrated and a few other QBs but I don't see that as being better then romo Roy.
 
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