Twitter: Sham: Romo's overthrow to TWill was different route...Romo vid Post #79

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I've already agreed that there are other problems.. just saying when you're a QB getting paid like an elite player, and your guy gets wide open.. you need to hit him.

Sloppy play has been a problem for us just as much as taking bad penalties at terrible times in recent years. JG needs to change both of those things this year or it may be his last.

Yes but we talking about a QB who missed all of the off season and a rookie WR that has missed the past 2 weeks. Most likely the 2 don't have a good rapport. And, that's ok cuz its just a pre-season game and that rapport is being developed. Romo has nothing to prove right now except staying healthy. So, I don't think its unreasonable to say eh it's pre-season when Romo missed him. These type of errors haven't plagued him, it's his ball security.
 

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I'm confused by this thread. The OP indicates Brad Sham heard something to suggest the rookie ran a wrong route. Thats not really farfetched in his third game. Where does all this Romo-hater room-lover animosity come from? Either Shams info is good, or it's not. Both overthrows and wrong routes happen. It's preseason. And the outcome for the team is the same in either circumstance.

Only Cowboy fans can rant on for six pages about an overthrow in a PRESEASON game. Sheesh...that's why there are practices and preseason.
 

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You really just compared an overthrow which is being debated as an overthrow to a redzone fumble?

I'm done.

Overthrow a wide open receiver for a touchdown vs. a flukish fumble in the red zone. Both plays cost us 7 points, yet you guys want to give Romo a pass for some odd reason.
 

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Romo over shot it. It is crazy the lengths people will go to coddle someone. It wasnt Romo, the ball went too far. Ball's fault.

It's really sad Gemini. In the game thread, not a single person said it was a bad route by T-Will. Not till Sham brought this up did these Romo stans come out of the woodwork blaming the receiver.
 

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It's really sad Gemini. In the game thread, not a single person said it was a bad route by T-Will. Not till Sham brought this up did these Romo stans come out of the woodwork blaming the receiver.

I was particularly impressed with how easy Williams made it look in blowing by the CB. I will say- if Williams completely ran the wrong route, why did Romo throw the ball where he did? He didn't throw it towards the middle of the field, or to his back-shoulder, behind him, or to his right, etc... He threw it way ahead of him. Either Romo recognized where Williams was going and way overthrew it, or I just don't know. At first I thought Williams slowed down after beating the CB, but it doesn't appear that was the case. Romo put too much mustard on the ball.
 

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Only Cowboy fans can rant on for six pages about an overthrow in a PRESEASON game. Sheesh...that's why there are practices and preseason.

So your official opinion is that it was an overthrow?
 

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Overthrow a wide open receiver for a touchdown vs. a flukish fumble in the red zone. Both plays cost us 7 points, yet you guys want to give Romo a pass for some odd reason.

Difference between giving romo a pass on a preseason overthrow and flipping out about it crying about his salary and his "elite" status.
My God this thread is ridiculous I cannot imagine the hue and cry when he misses his first reg season pass or throws a pick. Oh that's right he is the 100 million man now (psst he really isn't) so no more overthrows or ints ever.

Man everybody let this go. Bigger fish to fry
 

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So your official opinion is that it was an overthrow?

Well technically, it was an overthrow. The question of why it was an overthrow should be the debate.

Romo has said that it was because Twill made one adjustment and should've made a different adjustment. The end result fortunately was a simple incompletion.

For clarity:
“It’s an adjustment route,” Romo said. “He’s got to see a little bit differently on the thing, and then obviously if he runs that route, I’ve got to adjust to that. It’s part of learning. It’s his first game. We’ll have that down next time. I thought he did good tonight, though. He did a lot of good things.”
Romo declined to discuss the route adjustment in detail, but owner/general manager Jerry Jones said Williams was supposed to run a crossing route based on the coverage.
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowb...rance-williams-near-big-play-was-busted-route
 

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Well technically, it was an overthrow. The question of why it was an overthrow should be the debate.

Romo has said that it was because Twill made one adjustment and should've made a different adjustment. The end result fortunately was a simple incompletion.

For clarity: http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowb...rance-williams-near-big-play-was-busted-route

Good point. Both Williams and Romo were at fault. Williams for now making the correct read and subsequent route adjustment, and Romo for not anticipating Williams mistake and adjusting. But for those who are focusing on this one play, how about that back shoulder throw to Dez? Or how about the handful of other completions where he hit the receivers in stride? No ones mentioned that.
 

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Good point. Both Williams and Romo were at fault. Williams for now making the correct read and subsequent route adjustment, and Romo for not anticipating Williams mistake and adjusting. But for those who are focusing on this one play, how about that back shoulder throw to Dez? Or how about the handful of other completions where he hit the receivers in stride? No ones mentioned that.
Well, no matter how fair it sounds, there's no kudos for when you do what's expected. Romo makes the kind of money he makes because he does make those kind of throws and the teams expects him to, as well. And when he doesn't, that's when he will get criticized.
 

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Tony Romo is the QB of the Cowboys for the next five years at least. The consensus on him in here is about 80-20 in favor of him.

I feel sorry for the amount of angst yet to come from that 20.
 

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The issue I have with Jerry's comments are that you don't run a crossing route in a single high coverage. You run *away* from the safety help...
 

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Well, no matter how fair it sounds, there's no kudos for when you do what's expected. Romo makes the kind of money he makes because he does make those kind of throws and the teams expects him to, as well. And when he doesn't, that's when he will get criticized.

But why? And by Cowboy fans. Do they want Orton to start? Or Tanney? I don't understand all the negative Nancy's out there. It's not a healthy attitude to have.
 

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But why? And by Cowboy fans. Do they want Orton to start? Or Tanney? I don't understand all the negative Nancy's out there. It's not a healthy attitude to have.

Why? Nobody's above criticism and although I think we could do worse at QB, Romo has his warts and they tend to come out at the worst possible times.
 

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Why? Nobody's above criticism and although I think we could do worse at QB, Romo has his warts and they tend to come out at the worst possible times.

Truer words never typed. I really hope the worm turns for Romo.
 
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I guess all those interceptions against Washington were the receivers faults too? They should have made additional adjustments and then the INT's wouldn't have happen. We have to stop making excuses if we want to move forward.

if you place the blame of every facet, play or mistake of this team on the shoulders of Romo, you don't know a good quarterback or football for that matter....IMO
 

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I guess all those interceptions against Washington were the receivers faults too? They should have made additional adjustments and then the INT's wouldn't have happen. We have to stop making excuses if we want to move forward.

What does have to to do with the play in question?
 
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