Twitter: Sham: Romo's overthrow to TWill was different route...Romo vid Post #79

[Gemini Dolly]

“Tony missed a throw,” Garrett said. “Tony makes a lot of throws. We see he’s an obviously very accurate quarterback and he had a chance. It looked like Terrance beat him off the line of scrimmage and we missed it. That’s an opportunity in a game that we look back on as coaches and it’s a missed opportunity. We had a chance to really put a dagger in there, but we’ll learn from that and we will get better.”

Read more here: http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.co...mo-still-missed-the-throw-.html#storylink=cpy

 

[RoyTheHammer]

“Tony missed a throw,” Garrett said. “Tony makes a lot of throws. We see he’s an obviously very accurate quarterback and he had a chance. It looked like Terrance beat him off the line of scrimmage and we missed it. That’s an opportunity in a game that we look back on as coaches and it’s a missed opportunity. We had a chance to really put a dagger in there, but we’ll learn from that and we will get better.”

Read more here: http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.co...mo-still-missed-the-throw-.html#storylink=cpy

Everyone satisfied?

Can we move on, now?

 

[Oh_Canada]

He must not have watched the Broncos game yesterday when Peyton overthrew the deep receiver. I guess that $100m QB should hit it every time too.

Yeah...you're right Peyton isn't perfect....but he has more than a single playoff win to his credit and rarely does he talk about wrong routes being the cause of his INT's and overthrows while Romo makes it a habit.

Romo is a good QB, but he isn't in Peyton't class untill he can get his team to sniff a Super Bowl.

 

[Kevinicus]

Yeah...you're right Peyton isn't perfect....but he has more than a single playoff win to his credit and rarely does he talk about wrong routes being the cause of his INT's and overthrows while Romo makes it a habit.

Romo is a good QB, but he isn't in Peyton't class untill he can get his team to sniff a Super Bowl.

You're just making stuff up now. And please stop with the the whole rings crap, it is the weakest and dumbest argument in the history of sports. It only strengthens the point the other person was making. You are basically saying you expect Tony to be better than the absolute best in the game, and you just look foolish.

The play was a simple overthrow, it happens. It was preseason, so who cares? Did anyone get hurt? Then nothing that happens in a preaseason game should upset anyone. Was there a wrong adjustment made? Maybe, but it had nothing to do with the throw. And if it was wrong, it makes you wonder about the system design where these wrong adjustments keep leading to wide open receivers (back to the Roy Williams era).

 

[Idgit]

Everyone satisfied?

Can we move on, now?

To be fair, there was more said on that same topic:

Romo declined to discuss the route adjustment in detail, but owner/general manager Jerry Jones said Williams was supposed to run a crossing route based on the coverage.

Williams, a Baylor product who missed the first two games due to a concussion, caught only one pass for five yards in his preseason debut. However, the Cowboys are pleased with the development of a rookie they’re counting on to be their third receiver.

“In general, I really think he’s stepped up,” Jones said. “I think that’s the best way to say it. He has stepped up as our third pick, a rookie. All in all, he’s had a good training camp. He’s going to help us.”

While Williams ran the wrong route on the deep ball, he showed his ability to get behind the defense.

“Tony missed a throw,” said head coach Jason Garrett, who didn't mention Williams' mistake. “Tony makes a lot of throws. We sees he’s an obviously very accurate quarterback. It looked like Terrance beat him off the line of scrimmage and we missed it. That’s an opportunity that we look back on as coaches and it’s a missed opportunity.”

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys

This one sounds to me like, as I said before, like the kind of miscommunication you get in the preseason between a young WR and a veteran QB. I still don't she the point in trying to blame one player or another when one ran the wrong route and the other failed to hit him in stride when he was open. It was a blown opportunity in a preseason game, and not that complicated.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

To be fair, there was more said on that same topic:

This one sounds to me like, as I said before, like the kind of miscommunication you get in the preseason between a young WR and a veteran QB. I still don't she the point in trying to blame one player or another when one ran the wrong route and the other failed to hit him in stride when he was open. It was a blown opportunity in a preseason game, and not that complicated.

The only other quote i see in there was from Jerry Jones..

Sooo, yea.. "Tony missed a throw."

Its really not anymore complex than that, imo. Its just some people can't believe that Tony ever makes mistakes, hence we get 8 page threads over a simple miscue instead of just admitting what the head coach already told us, clear as day...and moving on with our lives.

 

[Idgit]

The only other quote i see in there was from Jerry Jones..

Sooo, yea.. "Tony missed a throw."

Its really not anymore complex than that, imo. Its just some people can't believe that Tony ever makes mistakes, hence we get 8 page threads over a simple miscue instead of just admitting what the head coach already told us, clear as day...and moving on with our lives.

Every QB makes lots of mistakes.

There's ample evidence here the the rookie WR made the wrong route adjustment, got open anyway, and Tony missed him. I don't think it's a great mystery. Nor do I think it's any interesting comment of the dark psyche of Romo Lovers or Romo Haters everywhere.

 

[bayeslife]

Yeah...you're right Peyton isn't perfect....but he has more than a single playoff win to his credit and rarely does he talk about wrong routes being the cause of his INT's and overthrows while Romo makes it a habit.

Romo is a good QB, but he isn't in Peyton't class untill he can get his team to sniff a Super Bowl.

You must be joking. Peyton has talked about wrong routes a countless number of times.

 

[DFWJC]

All true.

Plus (and I'm relating this to the missed one by Romo, but more to your Manning comment) I was watching the Patriots the other day and they were saying that in practice, Brady will throw the ball where the receiver should be, even if they messed up the route. It goes incomplete, but it gets those young guys attention.

 

[tupperware]

The only other quote i see in there was from Jerry Jones..

Sooo, yea.. "Tony missed a throw."

Its really not anymore complex than that, imo. Its just some people can't believe that Tony ever makes mistakes, hence we get 8 page threads over a simple miscue instead of just admitting what the head coach already told us, clear as day...and moving on with our lives.

I know the guy makes mistakes. Yes it bothers me, but the reason why I personally dwell on it is the fact that it's mind bending to me that some people can't accept that sometimes it is Romo's fault.

 

[Zordon]

“Tony missed a throw,” Garrett said. “Tony makes a lot of throws. We see he’s an obviously very accurate quarterback and he had a chance. It looked like Terrance beat him off the line of scrimmage and we missed it. That’s an opportunity in a game that we look back on as coaches and it’s a missed opportunity. We had a chance to really put a dagger in there, but we’ll learn from that and we will get better.”

Read more here: http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.co...mo-still-missed-the-throw-.html#storylink=cpy

Simple as that. I don't know why Sham and Romo have to try to throw TWill under the bus. Just man up to your mistake.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Every QB makes lots of mistakes.

There's ample evidence here the the rookie WR made the wrong route adjustment, got open anyway, and Tony missed him. I don't think it's a great mystery. Nor do I think it's any interesting comment of the dark psyche of Romo Lovers or Romo Haters everywhere.

I completely agree.. and you're right, its not some great mystery or complexity that needs 8 pages of discussion.

He may have made the wrong route adjustment, but the one he did make got himself wide open behind the whole defense, Tony saw that, and the throw was a bit far. Like Jason said, oppertunity missed. You move on to the next play.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Cowboys on missed early TD chance: Williams ran wrong route, Romo still missed the throw

The Cowboys had two responses on the play: Williams ran the wrong route on what was a third and one and Romo missed the throw.

“Terrance was supposed to go across the middle and went deep Tony saw it and tried to put it in there deep,” owner Jerry Jones said. “Tony saw it and almost had a great play. Now where that is going to stack up on third and one I don’t know.”

“It was an adjustment route, so he has to see it a little differently,” Romo said. “He made an adjustment off of one thing and there was another adjustment supposed to be made. The thing, obviously, if he runs that route I have to adjust to that. It’s part of learning. It’s his first game and we will have that down next time. I thought he did really good tonight. He did a lot of good things.”

“Tony missed a throw,” Garrett said. “Tony makes a lot of throws. We see he’s an obviously very accurate quarterback and he had a chance. It looked like Terrance beat him off the line of scrimmage and we missed it. That’s an opportunity in a game that we look back on as coaches and it’s a missed opportunity. We had a chance to really put a dagger in there, but we’ll learn from that and we will get better.”

Read more here:
http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.co...wrong-route-romo-still-missed-the-throw-.html

 

[Oh_Canada]

You must be joking. Peyton has talked about wrong routes a countless number of times.

Hmmmmm.....cite the case because I couldn't find anything where Manning publicly talks about his guy running the wrong route or making the wrong adjustment....it seems like Tony does this on almost every single INT. Oh and his coach doesn't seem to even agree with him.

He needs to show leadership and STOP this exercise, there is no way players appreciate their QB calling out players mistakes in public.

 

[Oh_Canada]

You're just making stuff up now. And please stop with the the whole rings crap, it is the weakest and dumbest argument in the history of sports. It only strengthens the point the other person was making. You are basically saying you expect Tony to be better than the absolute best in the game, and you just look foolish.

The play was a simple overthrow, it happens. It was preseason, so who cares? Did anyone get hurt? Then nothing that happens in a preaseason game should upset anyone. Was there a wrong adjustment made? Maybe, but it had nothing to do with the throw. And if it was wrong, it makes you wonder about the system design where these wrong adjustments keep leading to wide open receivers (back to the Roy Williams era).

You're missing the point, it's not just about a simple overthrow. It's a microcosm of the guy's career thus far. He misssed an easy seven points that in a regular season game could be the difference between a win or a loss. It's always something with him, staring down Otree after he clearly overthrew him in last year's final game, blaming Austin for losing a ball in the lights on a simple pitch and catch to seal a divisional win, to slippery footballs in Seattle. I realize the guy is a good QB for the most part, but enough with the excuses is all I am saying.

 

[WoodysGirl]

The only other quote i see in there was from Jerry Jones..

Sooo, yea.. "Tony missed a throw."

Its really not anymore complex than that, imo. Its just some people can't believe that Tony ever makes mistakes, hence we get 8 page threads over a simple miscue instead of just admitting what the head coach already told us, clear as day...and moving on with our lives.

Actually from the Cowboys perspective in the FWST blurb, there were two mistakes... Williams ran the wrong route AND Romo missed him. So two mistakes caused a missed opportunity.

As an aside, just because a point was made doesn't mean a discussion ends... You should know that by now. So if you've made your point and think the discussion is over, you're more than welcome to tap out and dip into one of the other threads on the Zone.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Romo and T.Williams both messed up and are perverts for it.

/taps out now ;-p

 

[tupperware]

Hmmmmm.....cite the case because I couldn't find anything where Manning publicly talks about his guy running the wrong route or making the wrong adjustment....it seems like Tony does this on almost every single INT. Oh and his coach doesn't seem to even agree with him.

He needs to show leadership and STOP this exercise, there is no way players appreciate their QB calling out players mistakes in public.

Agreed.

 

[DFWJC]

Cowboys on missed early TD chance: Williams ran wrong route, Romo still missed the throw

The Cowboys had two responses on the play: Williams ran the wrong route on what was a third and one and Romo missed the throw.

“Terrance was supposed to go across the middle and went deep Tony saw it and tried to put it in there deep,” owner Jerry Jones said. “Tony saw it and almost had a great play. Now where that is going to stack up on third and one I don’t know.”

“It was an adjustment route, so he has to see it a little differently,” Romo said. “He made an adjustment off of one thing and there was another adjustment supposed to be made. The thing, obviously, if he runs that route I have to adjust to that. It’s part of learning. It’s his first game and we will have that down next time. I thought he did really good tonight. He did a lot of good things.”

“Tony missed a throw,” Garrett said. “Tony makes a lot of throws. We see he’s an obviously very accurate quarterback and he had a chance. It looked like Terrance beat him off the line of scrimmage and we missed it. That’s an opportunity in a game that we look back on as coaches and it’s a missed opportunity. We had a chance to really put a dagger in there, but we’ll learn from that and we will get better.”

Read more here:
http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.co...wrong-route-romo-still-missed-the-throw-.html

There you go.


So all of this and it turns out that everyone was right.
Williams ran the wrong route.
Romo adjusted on the fly but failed to take advantage of the open receiver.

It happens. And frankly, compared to most QBs, it does not happen very often with Romo if only people would pay attention.
But in any case, it was a missed opportunity.

Frankly, I like that Garrett holds Romo accountable there.

 

[CATCH17]

To be fair, there was more said on that same topic:



This one sounds to me like, as I said before, like the kind of miscommunication you get in the preseason between a young WR and a veteran QB. I still don't she the point in trying to blame one player or another when one ran the wrong route and the other failed to hit him in stride when he was open. It was a blown opportunity in a preseason game, and not that complicated.

So Romo overthrows him by 5 yards down the sideline when he was expecting a crossing route?


Guys, he saw the adjustement and just missed.

No big deal. Happens all the time to every QB in the game.