Twitter: Sham: Romo's overthrow to TWill was different route...Romo vid Post #79

I think the issue is this thread started out that "Williams didn't make another adjustment like he was supposed to and that is why Romo overthrew him". From there that irritated a lot of posters who watched the game that saw Tony overthrow Williams. Apparently Williams was supposed to run a crossing route but didn't. Romo realized this and saw him beat his man but still overthrew him. At the end of the day, it was just a bad throw by Romo. It is hard for some to believe he could miss Williams that badly too.
 
CATCH17 said:
So Romo overthrows him by 5 yards down the sideline when he was expecting a crossing route?


Guys, he saw the adjustement and just missed.

No big deal. Happens all the time to every QB in the game.
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Right, he saw the adjustment and just overthrew him. Some people just can't ever blame Romo for anything. I will say that I don't see it as no big deal. I scratch my head and wonder how he could miss such an open man like that. But yeah, it happens.
 
ufcrules1 said:
I think the issue is this thread started out that "Williams didn't make another adjustment like he was supposed to and that is why Romo overthrew him". From there that irritated a lot of posters who watched the game that saw Tony overthrow Williams. Apparently Williams was supposed to run a crossing route but didn't. Romo realized this and saw him beat his man but still overthrew him. At the end of the day, it was just a bad throw by Romo. It is hard for some to believe he could miss Williams that badly too.
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No, the only reason folks get irritated, because they are quick to jump into a thread about Romo, take a side and ignore all other deets that come out later.

So at the end of the day, Williams ran a wrong route AND Romo missed Twill... That's it in a nutshell. It's on both of them. Twill didn't do what he was supposed to do on that route, but even Romo acknowledges that he should've made the throw.

It's only an issue for those who want to:
1) Put it all on Romo
2) Defend Romo without acknowledging he did miss the throw.
3) not acknowledge that Twill did run the wrong route, even though he got open.

Because ask yourself this, what if Twill makes that adjustment, but Romo doesn't see it until after he pulls the trigger. Guess what? Interception. And this thread is now about Romo throwing another boneheaded throw. Right?
 
RoyTheHammer said:
He has had times in the past where he's missed pretty wide open receivers.. but i agree, its not a huge deal right now.

I'm more upset at the overall results from the game. All of those fumbles came in situations where the ball shouldn't have come out.

Then the 3 interceptions on top of that.. 6 turnovers in all.. not good, and not something that should happen in the 3rd preseason game.

I wouldn't be as concerned if it happened against Miami.. just reminds me too much of recent seasons.
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Totally agree regarding the turnovers. Unacceptable. Whether your trying to get the extra yard or a fluke play, ball security is the no1 concern when you have that ball. Don't get me wrong... It's not all roses for me. I just think Romo missing TWill on that pass isn't a mishap we have be worried about come regular season.

Ok, I'm done now with the game critiquing. On to more training camp....
 
WoodysGirl said:
Because ask yourself this, what if Twill makes that adjustment, but Romo doesn't see it until after he pulls the trigger. Guess what? Interception. And this thread is now about Romo throwing another boneheaded throw. Right?
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If Romo and others say that Williams didn't make the adjustment I believe them 100% considering Williams is a rookie. If Romo threw it to the spot Williams was supposed to be and it was intercepted I would have no problem blaming Williams as it would clearly be his fault. We could chalk that up to pre-season and him being a rookie. Same thing happened in the Bears game with Bryant and everyone acknowledged it was Bryant's fault.. did they not?

The confusion to me and and a LOT of other posters was Williams "Slowed up or didn't do something right and THAT is why Romo overthrew him. Just go read the first posts on the thread for your evidence.

Romo realized his rookie receiver didn't run the right route early on and ALSO noticed his rookie receiver beat his guy deep... then Romo somehow overthrew his guy by 5+ yards. Horrible throw and 100% Romo's fault. To be quite honest... even though it is preseason I would like to see Romo make that throw. When I saw him miss that throw it instantly reminded me of the 2011 playoff game with the Giants when he missed a wide open Bryant.
 
Assuming the twitter comment is correct all it tells me is there is still work to do. Williams messed up and Romo over threw the pass that about sums up that 1 play. Does not mean Williams is somehow a bad WR or that Romo is a bad QB it is one play in a pre season game to make more of it than this really is beyond the ridicules.
 
ufcrules1 said:
If Romo and others say that Williams didn't make the adjustment I believe them 100% considering Williams is a rookie. If Romo threw it to the spot Williams was supposed to be and it was intercepted I would have no problem blaming Williams as it would clearly be his fault. We could chalk that up to pre-season and him being a rookie. Same thing happened in the Bears game with Bryant and everyone acknowledged it was Bryant's fault.. did they not?
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I'm sure some did...but then that's for another discussion.

The confusion to me and and a LOT of other posters was Williams "Slowed up or didn't do something right and THAT is why Romo overthrew him. Just go read the first posts on the thread for your evidence.
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I've read the whole thread, seeing as I started it. ;)

People did make those suggestions and since there's no video evidence to prove or disprove that theory, I pretty much ignored it. But having read the whole thread, I also know there were some folks very quick to jump on Romo for missing a wide-open guy without even considering that my Twill DID do something wrong. Now comments have come later to say that both he and Romo made mistakes.

Romo realized his rookie receiver didn't run the right route early on and ALSO noticed his rookie receiver beat his guy deep... then Romo somehow overthrew his guy by 5+ yards. Horrible throw and 100% Romo's fault. To be quite honest... even though it is preseason I would like to see Romo make that throw.
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I think we'd all like Romo to make that throw. But for all the "no big deals, it's preseason" being thrown about, you got the same folks screaming, "same ol, Romo" as if Romo overthrows guys all the time. :rolleyes: That gets old and is just annoying as the folks who ride in on the Romo cape, and have the "See no evil, hear no evil" takes when it comes to Romo.

When I saw him miss that throw it instantly reminded me of the 2011 playoff game with the Giants when he missed a wide open Bryant.
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You realize it's 2013.. Time to move on, dontcha think?
 
cowboys1985 said:
Totally agree regarding the turnovers. Unacceptable. Whether your trying to get the extra yard or a fluke play, ball security is the no1 concern when you have that ball. Don't get me wrong... It's not all roses for me. I just think Romo missing TWill on that pass isn't a mishap we have be worried about come regular season.

Ok, I'm done now with the game critiquing. On to more training camp....
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Turnovers is what gets us beat when the game counts. It's horrible to have 5 of them in a half, and 6 in a preseason game. And it's tough to hear 'we gotta get that cleaned up' and take it with a straight face.

I *do* sort of think these TOs were flukey, but they were Bears-game flukey. The flukes happened (Dez fumble, after he'd covered the ball, for example) because defensive players were coached to make great plays on the ball, and it worked. Most defenses can't make those sorts of plays, but some can, and the ones that can are going to be able to beat us even if we're a better team, across the board.

For the record, though, I love that AZ defense. They're really fun to watch. And I think they made some fairly smart moves in the offseason bringing in a bunch of vets who can help that team. A guy like Palmer, who's a journeyman at this point, is still a massive upgrade at QB. That guy can throw spam into a can. Mendenhall's a decent pickup, too, for that Arians offense. That looked like a team, to me, that's going to be in every game they play if their offense just doesn't shoot them in the foot. (This is not an excuse for the Cowboys, btw. Just commentary on how AZ looks because I lived in PHX for 25 years).
 
Crickets.....Dallas looks like the same ol' song and dance we've heard for 17 years running...there was football being played this week and in those games it looked like that's what they were doing...doing well.

When the ship gets corrected here, everybody will know it. All you will have to do is watch.
 
SilverStarCowboy said:
Crickets.....Dallas looks like the same ol' song and dance we've heard for 17 years running....
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Not to me.

But, then, I'm one who doesn't think the team 'looked the same ol' song and dance' during those 17 years, either. I saw a world of difference between the Campo Cowboys, for example, and the Parcels Cowboys. Or the 2007 and 2009 teams and the 2010 team.
 
SilverStarCowboy said:
Crickets.....Dallas looks like the same ol' song and dance we've heard for 17 years running...there was football being played this week and in those games it looked like that's what they were doing...doing well.

When the ship gets corrected here, everybody will know it. All you will have to do is watch.
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Agreed but lets let the regular season decide if the ship has been corrected or not.


I wouldn't bet on us to get out of our own way but if we ever do we're going to be a dangerous team.
 
Nirvana said:


well that sure clears things up
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If the fact is Williams did run the right rout and Romo over threw him on that one play that still really means nothing. People are acting as if QB even HOF ones never over threw a WR?

For me this is not about protecting Romo, I have been watching the NFL since 1965 and excuse me if I don't get upset with an over thrown pass in a pre season game.
 
SilverStarCowboy said:
Crickets.....Dallas looks like the same ol' song and dance we've heard for 17 years running...there was football being played this week and in those games it looked like that's what they were doing...doing well.

When the ship gets corrected here, everybody will know it. All you will have to do is watch.
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Dallas looks different to me this year on defense. I am seeing a ton of hustle and gang style tackles out there. They look very aggressive and I'm loving that. That is coming directly from the coaching they are getting too. I haven't noticed any major differences on offense yet though, still same ole there. Just a few new pieces.
 
CATCH17 said:
Agreed but lets let the regular season decide if the ship has been corrected or not.


I wouldn't bet on us to get out of our own way but if we ever do we're going to be a dangerous team.
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Amen to that. We have just about all the pieces in place to be dangerous now.. we just need to execute and have confidence out there.
 
I'm not sure there's ever been this much talk over a single missed throw in a pre-season game in the history of football. Good Lord people...go outside or something. o_O
 
SDCowboy85 said:
I'm not sure there's ever been this much talk over a single missed throw in a pre-season game in the history of football. Good Lord people... o_O
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You got that right. Seeing someone compare it to a playoff game lol..... Makes me wonder about our fan base.

It was over thrown big deal. Surprised Romo is not getting blamed for the nice plays that resulted in fumbles. lol
 
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