Shanahan Not a Foregone Conclusion

[dbair1967]

whatever coach we have next year isn't gonna change the defense. we don't have 1 starting calibur 4-3 linebacker on our roster.

Brooking played in the 4-3 most of his career. James can (and has) definitely play in the scheme.

I also bet Jason Williams could fit in almost any LB position of the 4-3

 

[Bach]

All hires are well intentioned.

Campo? Switzer?

Give me a break.

 

[UnoDallas]

I say no to ALL retreads. I am sick of retreads as coaches and players (aside from Brooking and Bigg).

What he said

 

[Hostile]

Today, right now...after the multiple college hirings that have failed...yeah I understand your reasoning.

Back then, Spurrier, Saban, and Petrino were all hot commodities. Nobody was looking at Wade, Gailey, Campo or Switzer at the time they were hired.

The only intention was to be radical and hire a no-name in order to absorb all the credit if there was any success. It's pretty clear that he's taken little accountability for the lack of success though.

It's just a shame to see such talent thrown away because he couldn't admit Wade was a bad hire.

I would take Jimmy over any Snyder hiring. I'd take Jimmy over all of Snyder's hires put together.

I put Gibbs and Parcells on about equal footing. I respect them as football legends in impossible situations.

I put Schottenheimer higher on the list than Switzer because he is a better coach.

I am no Wade fan, but I'd take him over Spurrier, Zorn, and Robiskie. Heck, I'd take Gailey or Switzer over any of those.

Campo is Jerry's obvious worst hire.

All in all, I think Jerry has done a far superior job to Snyder and the success factor shows it.

 

[Air Force One]

All hires are well intentioned.

If you tell me you'd take Spurrier over Wade you're nuts. I don't like Wade much, but damn man.

Nope. Hiring a puppet coach is not well intentioned, it is self serving.

I would take anyone over wade, including spurrier. Wade is a loser. At least Spurrier has won SOMETHING in his life other than a regular season game.

 

[dbair1967]

Nope. Hiring a puppet coach is not well intentioned, it is self serving.

I would take anyone over wade, including spurrier. Wade is a loser. At least Spurrier has won SOMETHING in his life other than a regular season game.

Not in the NFL he hasnt. At least Wade did coach teams into the playoffs.

 

[UVAwahoos]

I would take Jimmy over any Snyder hiring. I'd take Jimmy over all of Snyder's hires put together.

I put Gibbs and Parcells on about equal footing. I respect them as football legends in impossible situations.

I put Schottenheimer higher on the list than Switzer because he is a better coach.

I am no Wade fan, but I'd take him over Spurrier, Zorn, and Robiskie. Heck, I'd take Gailey or Switzer over any of those.

Campo is Jerry's obvious worst hire.

All in all, I think Jerry has done a far superior job to Snyder and the success factor shows it.

Obviously you're taking Jimmy. We're not arguing about him. The Jimmy hire was back when Jerry wasn't driven by ego and stubbornness. He was timid and unproven. Those Super Bowl rings created a monster and he's been using them to feed his ego since because he realized that he wasn't getting all the credit he wanted after we won them.

At THE TIME of Spurrier's hire, you would've been quite hard-pressed to find anyone to support taking Wade over him. You're speaking with the knowledge that Spurrier failed. It's convenient, but flawed as an argument.

 

[Rampage]

Brooking played in the 4-3 most of his career. James can (and has) definitely play in the scheme.

I also bet Jason Williams could fit in almost any LB position of the 4-3

I'll give you brooking but he's gonna be 34 in a few weeks

James would be terrible at MLB in a 4-3

Williams is a rookie being taught the 3-4.

a switch to the 4-3 would just set everything back.

 

[Big D]

I hope Shanahan lands in Washington. I want no part of him in Dallas.

 

[Hostile]

Campo? Switzer?

Give me a break.

Of course they were well intentioend. Don't be a doofus. Even Rich Kotite and Ray Handley were.

Good intentions does not mean good hires and I didn't say they were.

 

[Air Force One]

Not in the NFL he hasnt. At least Wade did coach teams into the playoffs.

Spurrier coached in the NFL for what, a year or two? Wade's been coaching in the NFL for like 25 years and hasn't won ****!! I don't give a flying **** about wade's four playoff losses. I doubt he would brag about it, so you look foolish doing it. Lol, coached them to the playoffs. A more intellectually honest assessment would be he coached himself to four playoff losses vs. zero wins....

 

[theebs]

Nope. Hiring a puppet coach is not well intentioned, it is self serving.

I would take anyone over wade, including spurrier. Wade is a loser. At least Spurrier has won SOMETHING in his life other than a regular season game.

Steve Spurrier might be one of the worst coaches to ever set foot in the nfl.

One of the best stories I have ever heard babe laufenberg tell was the story of spurrier in december of 03 when we were playing in washington.

Babe was down on the field before the game during warmups and was talking to a group of people he knows in the organization, as they were out there spurrier was out on the field asking an assistant coach which players were active and which were inactive!!!!!

Can you imagine a Head Coach at any level, let alone the nfl not knowing who was active or inactive? That is like bizzarro world stuff.

That guy was a dope from day 1, just like the guy who hired him is and will continue to be.

 

[theebs]

Of course they were well intentioend. Don't be a doofus. Even Rich Kotite and Ray Handley were.

Good intentions does not mean good hires and I didn't say they were.

To be fair to ray handley, he didnt even want the job but felt obligated to take it. He was going leave the nfl until parcells heart surgery forcing him to resign.

Bellichick and others had already left for new jobs and the organization liked handley`, but he didnt really even want the job.

 

[Air Force One]

Of course they were well intentioend. Don't be a doofus. Even Rich Kotite and Ray Handley were.

Good intentions does not mean good hires and I didn't say they were.

No you didn't say that. You just play both sides of the fence like you always do. The hires were not well intentioned unless the moves were made soley based on the intention of winning. Jerry was self serving in that he did it to have control... on his terms, his way. If winning was his only intention, most of the moves wouldn't have ever been made. You're the one who needs to quit being a doofus. Not holding my breath though.

 

[Air Force One]

Steve Spurrier might be one of the worst coaches to ever set foot in the nfl.

One of the best stories I have ever heard babe laufenberg tell was the story of spurrier in december of 03 when we were playing in washington.

Babe was down on the field before the game during warmups and was talking to a group of people he knows in the organization, as they were out there spurrier was out on the field asking an assistant coach which players were active and which were inactive!!!!!

Can you imagine a Head Coach at any level, let alone the nfl not knowing who was active or inactive? That is like bizzarro world stuff.

That guy was a dope from day 1, just like the guy who hired him is and will continue to be.

No that honor would go to wade.

Hey I'm not wanting spurrier here, I'm just saying if it came down to spurrier vs. Wade, the choice for me would be spurrier, without question. Wade is a stain on this franchise and always will be.

 

[Hostile]

Obviously you're taking Jimmy. We're not arguing about him. The Jimmy hire was back when Jerry wasn't driven by ego and stubbornness. He was timid and unproven. Those Super Bowl rings created a monster and he's been using them to feed his ego since because he realized that he wasn't getting all the credit he wanted after we won them.

At THE TIME of Spurrier's hire, you would've been quite hard-pressed to find anyone to support taking Wade over him. You're speaking with the knowledge that Spurrier failed. It's convenient, but flawed as an argument.

You said, "Snyder's coaching hires have been better." No they have not. Period. Gibbs was a godo hire and he submarined Gibbs. Just like he did Marty. Other than those 2 his hires have been crap.

 

[Hostile]

No you didn't say that. You just play both sides of the fence like you always do. The hires were not well intentioned unless the moves were made soley based on the intention of winning. Jerry was self serving in that he did it to have control... on his terms, his way. If winning was his only intention, most of the moves wouldn't have ever been made. You're the one who needs to quit being a doofus. Not holding my breath though.

Baloney.

I will say it again. All hires are good intentioned. No one ever hires someone thinking, "I hope this fails miserably."

Don't put your brains in neutral just because you are mad at the owner/GM. It is the same for every team. Every coaching hire is done with good intentions.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

 

[theebs]

No that honor would go to wade.

Hey I'm not wanting spurrier here, I'm just saying if it came down to spurrier vs. Wade, the choice for me would be spurrier, without question. Wade is a stain on this franchise and always will be.

OMG what?

I am not a fan of wade's either. But his whole life has been about the nfl. He is an accomplished coordinator. Not being a good head coach doesnt mean you are a bad coach entirely.

Steve Spurrier was a train wreck. Do you understand how insane it is that the HC didnt know who was active?

 

[Beast_from_East]

You guys wanting a young coach that will be here for the next 15 yrs better be careful what you wish for.......

That young coach could turn out to be Garrett, after all he is in the family portrait.

15 yrs of Tecmo!!!!!!


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[Hostile]

You guys wanting a young coach that will be here for the next 15 yrs better be careful what you wish for.......

That young coach could turn out to be Garrett, after all he is in the family portrait.

15 yrs of Tecmo!!!!!!


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Congrats on 5000 posts.

I will take 15 years of Garrett. I really will.