Shannon breaks down why Roger Goodell could be in trouble if he suspends Ezekiel Elliott

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I think the owners dont even want Goodell to have this kind of power anymore.
I disagree to a point...... it is literally his job to mete out discipline...... they need an unbiased commissioner because a committee of owners would be too biased ...... the owners love the heat that he takes

they just need to stop with the knee-jerk reactions to every bad PR hit and acting like the FBI...let the courts and cops do their jobs .....this never ending case against EE is ridiculous.... you have plenty of years left to get him if he screws up again
 

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As much as it pains me to do so, I beg to differ. When it comes to the "conduct unbecoming of an NFL employee" clause, they could easily take two games away from him and I'd guess little backlash would result.

That said, I'm at work so I can't watch Shannon's video and am not aware of the reasons why not. But the NFL has suspended players for less than the collection of issues Zeke has been involved in.

I wouldn't like it, but I'd understand and hope and pray he learns from it.
Like who?
Which issues has Zeke been involved in?
A bar fight at a bar where he was in attendance? Zero proof that he had anything to do with it at all. Zero.
An Ex claiming Zeke beat her up after mouthing off to everyone that she was going to ruin his career. Then the police caught her telling her friend to lie to the police to frame Zeke.

Which players have been suspended for less?
Lesean McCoy who is accused of punching a lady in the face and throwing her off a party bus on the Jersey turnpike. Also he is being sued by 2 philly police offericers over being beaten to a pulp over a bottom of champagne. Or the flyer he distributed with the Bills logo for a party he was soliciting just hot girls to attend. The flyer said they had to leave their cell phones behind and they had to send pics first to confirm they were hot enough for him... the same Lesean McCoy who had a public dispute with the mother of one of his children. Check out what he had to say about her on Social media...
Where is his suspension? Isn't that weird?
 

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Goodmara may decide to suspend him anyway citing "in the spirit of --------" like when he penalized us and the Skins citing "in the spirit of the cap" when at the time there was no cap. You know how Goodell and Mara get during their nightcaps and pillow talk figuring out ways to give the Giants an edge in the season opener.
 

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If there were no video of him pulling down that girls top then I think he would be okay. Can't imagine the NFL liked that look. He's going to get a 1 game suspension. Though I don't agree with it.
 

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Like who?
Which issues has Zeke been involved in?
A bar fight at a bar where he was in attendance? Zero proof that he had anything to do with it at all. Zero.
An Ex claiming Zeke beat her up after mouthing off to everyone that she was going to ruin his career. Then the police caught her telling her friend to lie to the police to frame Zeke.

Which players have been suspended for less?
Lesean McCoy who is accused of punching a lady in the face and throwing her off a party bus on the Jersey turnpike. Also he is being sued by 2 philly police offericers over being beaten to a pulp over a bottom of champagne. Or the flyer he distributed with the Bills logo for a party he was soliciting just hot girls to attend. The flyer said they had to leave their cell phones behind and they had to send pics first to confirm they were hot enough for him... the same Lesean McCoy who had a public dispute with the mother of one of his children. Check out what he had to say about her on Social media...
Where is his suspension? Isn't that weird?

Wow! It's almost like you wrote that before and was just looking for the right comment to paste that response to. My point was, the conduct policy gives Goodell quite a bit of freedom on what he defines as conduct unbecoming. I'd imagine the exposing a woman's breast in public would probably suffice to make the suspension go through.

Either way, I certainly am not your enemy on this. I would hate to see Zeke suspended, but there is part of me that wonders if a suspension would be good for Zeke in the long term; maybe that would get his attention back where it belongs. I could care less what other players do on other teams nor will I weigh in on it...
 

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If there were no video of him pulling down that girls top then I think he would be okay. Can't imagine the NFL liked that look. He's going to get a 1 game suspension. Though I don't agree with it.
There was a video. It was on TMZ.
 

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No kidding. I don't watch him at all.

And if I am watching something and he suddenly appears unexpectedly on my screen or over the radio, click.
I try to change the channel before the music starts for shows like First Take but it is tough to completely shut them out
 

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I try to change the channel before the music starts for shows like First Take but it is tough to completely shut them out
I try to avoid any program or network he is affiliated for that matter.

How people watch him, Stephen Smith, Bayless, is beyond me. Unless you are a masochist and get off to nails on a chalk board, I don't get it.
 

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I try to avoid any program or network he is affiliated for that matter.

How people watch him, Stephen Smith, Bayless, is beyond me. Unless you are a masochist and get off to nails on a chalk board, I don't get it.
I can't really watch anyone on ESPN anymore besides NFL Live or Intentional Talk

I can't stand the female hosts that emphasize Latin names but don't do it for Asian or British names

The Opinion Shows are so 2000 and late
 

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I'm more inclined to listen to Nate Newton. Anybody ever watch James Garner in "Support Your Local Sheriff"?

There is a line in that movie that says the following:

"I've been around Joe all afternoon and I haven't seen him do one smart thing."

That's how I feel about Shannon Sharp.

Nate Newton recently did and interview where he touched on the issue of Zeke. That interview is worth hearing and I hope that Zeke listened.
 

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Zekes never been arrested.

He's never been charged with a crime.

There is no incriminating video evidence against him.

He hasn't tested positive for any banned or illegal substances.

He's violated no NFL rules.

He's violated no Cowboys team rules.

The only thing he is guilty of is generating some bad publicity for the NFL, which likely wouldn't be a issue if he played for the Browns instead of the Cowboys.

If generating bad publicity is the basis for suspension, then they need to suspend Goodell because he's brought plenty of that to the NFL.
 

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The owners overall have a higher opinion of roger than fans do
No team likes it when it's their player but make no mistake, the owners are high on roger
 

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There was a video. It was on TMZ.
The video doesn't show where she was pulling down her own top again and again or where she claims she gave Zeke consent.... still stupid and a bad look...but I don't see conduct detrimental to the league here...
Investigation lasting over a year and feeding gossip journalist like Adam S. ammo to keep negatives in the press are very detrimental to the league though. The owners should wake up and oust this guy.
 

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The owners overall have a higher opinion of roger than fans do
No team likes it when it's their player but make no mistake, the owners are high on roger
The owners claim in public to be high on Roger. But one would have to wonder how the owners feel about Roger getting booed by every fan base in the country. When the fan base is lined up against him as strongly as they are you have to feel uneasy about that at least a little.

The owners are making huge money and under Goodell the league has made even more than before. So that buys him slack with them. Plus the intentions of Goodell and these suspensions are good for the league. He has just blown a few to avoid the Ray Rice, and Josh Brown PR nightmare. You have to wonder with ratings dropping last year for everyone but the Cowboys how much longer Goodell has before the owners point the finger at him. There is always a fall guy when money starts disappearing. Jerry and the Cowboys carried this league last year in ratings.
 
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