Shannon breaks down why Roger Goodell could be in trouble if he suspends Ezekiel Elliott

jday

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Acting like a shrinking violet like the rest of them....... what was done was nothing..... it was a Mardi Gras type parade.....it happens all the time so stop acting like it is a big deal worthy of discussing let alone suspending him for........ just like speeding isn't a suspendable offense

I suspect if that was your sister or your mom you would feel differently about it. Reaching over and pulling down a woman's top doesn't even belong in the same conversation as a speeding ticket. What happens all the time is women grab their own shirt and flash people. And as far as I'm concerned that is not an issue in the least. But when another man reaches over and exposes a woman, that could have been framed as rape. Was it? No...but had it not been on camera, with the right twist of context a good lawyer could milk millions out of Zeke for that stupid, stupid decision. Don't get me wrong, I truly do hope they don't suspend him, but I won't be surprised.
 

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I suspect if that was your sister or your mom you would feel differently about it. Reaching over and pulling down a woman's top doesn't even belong in the same conversation as a speeding ticket. What happens all the time is women grab their own shirt and flash people. And as far as I'm concerned that is not an issue in the least. But when another man reaches over and exposes a woman, that could have been framed as rape. Was it? No...but had it not been on camera, with the right twist of context a good lawyer could milk millions out of Zeke for that stupid, stupid decision. Don't get me wrong, I truly do hope they don't suspend him, but I won't be surprised.
Rape......hahahahhahhahahahhhahhaahhaha
 

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Maybe that's why Jones made his comments earlier this week about not seeing any reason to suspend Zeke.

I see no reason to suspend him either. No proof he domestically assaulted his girlfriend, no proof he was involved in a bar fight, no complaint from the woman whose top he pulled down.

I would hate to think Goodell would levy a suspension based on appearances. That would set a dangerous precedence, IMO.
 

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Zekes never been arrested.

He's never been charged with a crime.

There is no incriminating video evidence against him.

He hasn't tested positive for any banned or illegal substances.

He's violated no NFL rules.

He's violated no Cowboys team rules.

The only thing he is guilty of is generating some bad publicity for the NFL, which likely wouldn't be a issue if he played for the Browns instead of the Cowboys.

If generating bad publicity is the basis for suspension, then they need to suspend Goodell because he's brought plenty of that to the NFL.
Post of the day :)
 

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I suspect if that was your sister or your mom you would feel differently about it. Reaching over and pulling down a woman's top doesn't even belong in the same conversation as a speeding ticket. What happens all the time is women grab their own shirt and flash people. And as far as I'm concerned that is not an issue in the least. But when another man reaches over and exposes a woman, that could have been framed as rape. Was it? No...but had it not been on camera, with the right twist of context a good lawyer could milk millions out of Zeke for that stupid, stupid decision. Don't get me wrong, I truly do hope they don't suspend him, but I won't be surprised.

Have you ever BEEN to a Mardi Gras? I went once and it blew my mind. The things that went on right there in public....
Which is WHY no one but people like you are talking about it now. What Zeke did was SO TAME its laughable.
 

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Have you ever BEEN to a Mardi Gras? I went once and it blew my mind. The things that went on right there in public....
Which is WHY no one but people like you are talking about it now. What Zeke did was SO TAME its laughable.
The only reason I bring it up is because people like you wanted to know how the NFL could justifiably suspend Zeke. While that may be the norm in those environments, like it or not, players are held to a higher standard. Quit responding and people like me will quit talking about it.:thumbup:
 

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The only reason I bring it up is because people like you wanted to know how the NFL could justifiably suspend Zeke. While that may be the norm in those environments, like it or not, players are held to a higher standard. Quit responding and people like me will quit talking about it.:thumbup:

well you can keep making yourself look bad which is fine with me. I need a laugh now and then and posts like yours accomplish that.
 

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well you can keep making yourself look bad which is fine with me. I need a laugh now and then and posts like yours accomplish that.
Be nice to J, bro. Disagree with the post, don't attack the poster. Especially one as affable as our J. You've been awesome, DieFree. I feel I got you wrong at first. Be cool to J, he wouldn't hurt a fly, man.
 

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If it can happen to Tom Brady, it can happen to Zeke. The commish hands out his own style of justice as he sees fit. Mr Kraft couldn't stop it last year and Jerry Jones shouldn't be able to to stop it this year... or can he? Jerry is about to be honored by being inducted into the Hall of Fame. As powerful as Jerry already is, he will never yield more influence than he does now and for the next few weeks. He is untouchable for a short period of time and so when Jerry declares there is no reason for the commish to suspend Zeke it's as good as a done deal. The commish will not challenge Jerry. Next season may be a different story.
 

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I'm having trouble understanding this. The accuser was caught via text message trying to coerce a witness into lying.

Doesn't that mean he hasn't done anything wrong if she wanted someone to lie for her?

What could their investigation possibly have uncovered that would discount this fact?
 

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Just for fun, I reviewed the NFL's Personal Conduct Policy. At the risk of boring everyone, the PC policy was implemented in 2007 to "... Help control off-field behavior by its players and preserve the league's public image." Without getting into an esoteric discussion about controlling someone's behavior, the general intent of the policy is reasonable. Preserving the image of the league and thus enhancing its marketability makes good business sense.

When reviewing the list of players suspended under this policy - Adam Jones (battery), Chris Henry (aggravated assault with a firearm), and Michael Vick, to name a few - I would think most would agree their behavior was egregious. The court of public opinion at the time was generally in favor of severe penalities.

Not withstanding the recent bar incident, Zeke's off-field behavior falls more in the category of boneheaded immaturity rather than malicious intent. If anything, it hurts his image far more than the league.

At a time when NFL ratings are falling (8% year-on-year, 2016 vs. 2015), the league desparately needed an image refresh - enter the 2016 Dallas Cowboys, Dak and Zeke. I am not suggesting the DC single-handedly saved the league's ratings, but I am suggesting that using the PC policy to potentially suspend Zeke is a bit ironic.

Salvation Army contributions soared after Zeke did his end zone show. Dak and Zeke have some of the highest merchandise sales in the league and let's not forget Zeke's feed me gesture - Wheaties would probably jump at the chance to put his image on their cereal box.

If the investigation into the bar fight leads conclusively to Zeke being guilty, then suspend him. Otherwise, under the league's PC policy, I just can't see (with the evidence in hand) that his behavior has tarnished the league.
 
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I shouldn't say this...but a short suspension might turn out to be the best thing that ever happened to Elliott. Wake him up and put an end to his borderline behaviour before there is real incident. I am a big fan, make no mistake, but Elliott needs to understand how the league office works especially with respect to the Cowboys. He is playing with fire.
 

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Be nice to J, bro. Disagree with the post, don't attack the poster. Especially one as affable as our J. You've been awesome, DieFree. I feel I got you wrong at first. Be cool to J, he wouldn't hurt a fly, man.
You misrepresent me slightly, Trouty. Don't get me wrong, you were correct in saying I wouldn't hurt a fly. But trolls register below flies in my estimation.
 

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In an odd way, I like this suspension possibility hanging over Zeke's head. Might help keep him somewhat in line.

He's a suspension waiting to happen.

that's bs. this situation doesn't appear to be his fault at all.
 

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If it can happen to Tom Brady, it can happen to Zeke. The commish hands out his own style of justice as he sees fit. Mr Kraft couldn't stop it last year and Jerry Jones shouldn't be able to to stop it this year... or can he? Jerry is about to be honored by being inducted into the Hall of Fame. As powerful as Jerry already is, he will never yield more influence than he does now and for the next few weeks. He is untouchable for a short period of time and so when Jerry declares there is no reason for the commish to suspend Zeke it's as good as a done deal. The commish will not challenge Jerry. Next season may be a different story.
I truly hope you are right!
 

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that's bs. this situation doesn't appear to be his fault at all.

There have been nine "incidents" surrounding Zeke the past year that we know about.

None are big deals, but collectively, they are concerning. This guy loves strippers, he loves to party hard, and he never goes home.

It's like Michael Irvin all over again, but with camera phones, social media, and a massive TMZ presence everywhere.
 

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Rape......hahahahhahhahahahhhahhaahhaha
So, bogus rape allegations have never happened? What your saying is every player ever accused of rape was in fact guilty, right?

To be clear, I'm not saying that was rape. I'm merely pointing out that players have been accused of worse for doing a whole lot less. Zeke needs to act smarter; that's all I'm saying. :thumbup:
 
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