Short blurb about Ken Bishop

[Aliencowboy]

No, he was not getting "blown off the ball".

Oh right, I should be more specific with u. I mean about 5 to 8 yards off the ball. Or maYbe the world in which you perceive yr sleeper pick does nothing but make spectacular horse collars is where we should watch the game. Give it a rest. Did u watch the game? Were they not rushing the ball right up the middle the whole first half?

You still claim Bmac and livings didn't get overpaid but every source says on starting guards says they were. Come back to the real world

 

[xwalker]

Oh right, I should be more specific with u. I mean about 5 to 8 yards off the ball. Or maYbe the world in which you perceive yr sleeper pick does nothing but make spectacular horse collars is where we should watch the game. Give it a rest. Did u watch the game? Were they not rushing the ball right up the middle the whole first half?

You still claim Bmac and livings didn't get overpaid but every source says on starting guards says they were. Come back to the real world

Here was @FuzzyLumkins' review of him:
"I certainly noticed when Bishop came in. He was hardly perfect but at least he offered resistance. He is raw as a ribeye cut straight from the cow. You can see him taking to coaching as he is using the technique but he is a beat slow to drop the knee on the double team and his footwork needs to get better on the stretch play. He had his issues but he seem the only DT capable of competing on run downs on the evening."

Bernadeau was part of what most consider the best season (2013) for the Cowboys OLine in many years. That's not bad for about 2M per year. Livings was injured and never recovered.

 

[TimHortons]

I don't like dirty plays. He could've broken the guy's legs. Not cool. Gotta be smarter than that.

At that point, on the field, you aren't thinking about that. You're thinking about stopping a TD and possibly making the team.

 

[Aliencowboy]

Here was @FuzzyLumkins' review of him:
"I certainly noticed when Bishop came in. He was hardly perfect but at least he offered resistance. He is raw as a ribeye cut straight from the cow. You can see him taking to coaching as he is using the technique but he is a beat slow to drop the knee on the double team and his footwork needs to get better on the stretch play. He had his issues but he seem the only DT capable of competing on run downs on the evening."

Bernadeau was part of what most consider the best season (2013) for the Cowboys OLine in many years. That's not bad for about 2M per year. Livings was injured and never recovered.

Don't see how this helps yr position. The run down from behind is consistent. The point on MacB and Livings is they are bottom tier players Mac not even a starter yet paid like they were in the 10-15 range as guards. Mac is notably the weak link last night.

 

[xwalker]

Don't see how this helps yr position. The run down from behind is consistent. The point on MacB and Livings is they are bottom tier players Mac not even a starter yet paid like they were in the 10-15 range as guards. Mac is notably the weak link last night.

Most reviews have Bishop as playing better than the starter.

They were not paid like top 15 Guards. Bern definitely wasn't.

I see why they nicknamed you Chachi.

 

[CowboyDan]

At that point, on the field, you aren't thinking about that. You're thinking about stopping a TD and possibly making the team.

Sorta. But do smart football players commit blatantly obvious personal fouls in the name of saving a touchdown? Maybe they do...I don't know. But I'm thinking that a smarter play is going for the legs. I wonder what our coaching staff thinks about it. Do they look at it as a smart play saving the TD? Or as a dumb play inflicting a 15 yd penalty?

 

[DallasEast]

Sorta. But do smart football players commit blatantly obvious personal fouls in the name of saving a touchdown? Maybe they do...I don't know. But I'm thinking that a smarter play is going for the legs. I wonder what our coaching staff thinks about it. Do they look at it as a smart play saving the TD? Or as a dumb play inflicting a 15 yd penalty?

I hate horse collar tackles. Having said that, the defense's main job is preventing the offense from scoring. Any and all workable field position is an asset for accomplishing the job.

I must review my recording of the game first (and probably my GameRewind copy as well), but Bishop's arm was fully outstretched when he grabbed the back of Oliver's shoulder pads, if memory serves. The tackle was made at the 10-yard line. The likelihood that Bishop could have made approximately three or less strides to close the gap enough to bend, push, leap and extend for Oliver's legs without him falling on or over the goal line first would have been slim to none. I may post any video of the tackle for forum review later today.

 

[Bizwah]

I have no problem with Bishop's horse collar. He prevented a TD. I've seen so many tackles like that. I can remember when that used to be a normal play.

 

[cowboys1981]

The horse-collar tackle was my favorite play of the game. Bishop showed impressive athleticism on that play.

Overall, he looked like a rookie with potential. He is strong with good athleticism for a 1-tech DT. He needs more work on hand techniques and play recognition, but I would be irritated if he didn't make the team. He's already better than Hayden.

When I saw the replay my initial reaction was "is that a lineman". Boy has some quickness.

 

[waving monkey]

Sorta. But do smart football players commit blatantly obvious personal fouls in the name of saving a touchdown? Maybe they do...I don't know. But I'm thinking that a smarter play is going for the legs. I wonder what our coaching staff thinks about it. Do they look at it as a smart play saving the TD? Or as a dumb play inflicting a 15 yd penalty?

their instructed to stop a touch down,period penalty or not

 

[Aliencowboy]

Most reviews have Bishop as playing better than the starter.

They were not paid like top 15 Guards. Bern definitely wasn't.

I see why they nicknamed you Chachi.

At least yr seeing something because it's not the game. No where does it say he outplayed Hayden or McClain.

 

[Risen Star]

Oh right, I should be more specific with u. I mean about 5 to 8 yards off the ball. Or maYbe the world in which you perceive yr sleeper pick does nothing but make spectacular horse collars is where we should watch the game. Give it a rest. Did u watch the game? Were they not rushing the ball right up the middle the whole first half?

You still claim Bmac and livings didn't get overpaid but every source says on starting guards says they were. Come back to the real world

You are correct. Bishop was playing on skates last night.

 

[DallasEast]

Horse collar tackle​

 

[BAT]

I still don't like it. Swipe at his legs....better than threatening a guy's career.

Horse collar tackles were never considered career ending overexaggerations until Roy. Still can't believe that tackling someone from behind like that is banned. No grabbing a guys equipment but let's pull a guy down by his hair, no problem. If someone tried to tackle another guy by grabbing his hair when I played, that guy was a target the rest of the season, never mind the rest of the game. Smh

 

[lane]

Horse collar tackles were never considered career ending overexaggerations until Roy. Still can't believe that tackling someone from behind like that is banned. No grabbing a guys equipment but let's pull a guy down by his hair, no problem. If someone tried to tackle another guy by grabbing his hair when I played, that guy was a target the rest of the season, never mind the rest of the game. Smh

another thing that is lost is the fact that san diego has had one of the better o-lines in the past decade.

they have some beasts on that line.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The Cowboys only put up any run defense in the second quarter. That was when Bishop first went in.

The first defensive play of the second quarter saw a holding penalty. Bishop had ripped the A gap and the guard just held him before he trashed the QB. He would get isoed on the center and shove him backwards. His club hits hard. He was chasing plays away from him down the line all game. Not just the horsecollar. How do you think he managed to get in on 3 tackles.

There were times when he didn't recognize the combo block and got dug out. Twice by my count. He did get washed out on those reps. He has been inconsistent on kneeling down. OTOH, he showed on other reps that he could kneel down if a bit awkwardly and hold on. The defense certainly wore down particularly after the offense couldn't hold onto the ball in the second half.

He showed great motor and was effective at times. He's a bleeding rookie 7th round draft pick. People that don't like him just seem to have a bone to pick.

 

[CowboyDan]

Horse collar tackles were never considered career ending overexaggerations until Roy. Still can't believe that tackling someone from behind like that is banned. No grabbing a guys equipment but let's pull a guy down by his hair, no problem. If someone tried to tackle another guy by grabbing his hair when I played, that guy was a target the rest of the season, never mind the rest of the game. Smh

Helmets weren't always part of the game either. I guess they've learned a thing or two about safety over the years? Smh

 

[CowboyDan]

Horse collar tackle​

Excellent replay of the tackle. Thanks for posting it.
And when I watch it again it looks like the guys legs are clearly much closer than his collar.

 

[Dodger12]

He was awful. He looked like he was playing on roller skates.

This. Although that can describe our DL as a whole. It was frightening how bad they were. And only around here can we find positives in a 15 yard penalty. Bishop took a good angle and benefited from the RB slowing down to make a cut to the inside. He hustled and didn't give up on the play so I'll give him that. The D was putrid so we've been relegated to praising a guy for making a horsecollar tackle down field.

 

[burmafrd]

Sorta. But do smart football players commit blatantly obvious personal fouls in the name of saving a touchdown? Maybe they do...I don't know. But I'm thinking that a smarter play is going for the legs. I wonder what our coaching staff thinks about it. Do they look at it as a smart play saving the TD? Or as a dumb play inflicting a 15 yd penalty?

you are so out of line its pathetic. And guess what? They will take a penalty over a TD any time. You might remember that little fact.
He was determined to get the guy and did not have a thought but on how to get ahold on him and bring him down. Your BS about a dirty play is just that.