Should we cut Larry Allen?

[Eddie]

What would his cap impact be if we cut him? Rivera would cost us something like $8 mil in dead money if we dropped him.

Add in LA's dead money, and we're looking at a serious pit.

 

[ravidubey]

No way; he's a legit pro bowler again this year. Sheesh, stop comparing him to what he used to be-- few in the NFL if any have ever played like that.

 

[BlueStar22]

Norm actually posed this question no the postgame show following the Rams lost. He believes we have to take the cap hit on either Allen or Rivera. Which one it will be? I think LA is due a $2M bonus soon? Is this accurate?

 

[Eskimo]

Norm actually posed this question no the postgame show following the Rams lost. He believes we have to take the cap hit on either Allen or Rivera. Which one it will be? I think LA is due a $2M bonus soon? Is this accurate?

The thing with Rivera is his cap hit is about $7.2M if cut but only counts about $4M if we keep him. He has an excuse for his play due to his back injury. He also isn't due a large roster bonus so we can certainly wait until TC to see what kind of shape he is in.

The case is more clear cut with Allen because of the consistenly low level of play compared to salary and the large cap savings achieved if he is cut ($3.5M).

You would think JJ would have learned his lesson about signing old, injured guards (Rivera had some back problems the year before and has had a few knee injuries over the years) to large contracts.

 

[JakeCamp12]

I think at somepoint we need to do what the Eagles do, is come up with a plan to draft guys to take over for any veterans that start to get over the 32-33 year old age bracket. When the older veterans contract is up, you let him leave. The more age on the roster, the more you run into the freak Rivera accident and wind up with alot of key guys on IR, like Dat and Al S.

 

[Awakened]

So the question is can we find a guard better then Larry Allen for 3.4 million dollars?


Probably not.

Mike Wahle's contract with Carolina last year produced a cap number lower than 3.4 million dollars in the first year (though I'm not sure how those roster bonuses in his contract work). So the answer is YES - we could afford a top level guard and spend less than 3.4 million dollars toward the cap.

Contract Details --

Worth $27 million over five years, includes a $100,000 workout bonus in every year of the deal.

In the first three years of the deal, he’ll make $17.8 million.

Base salary 2005 will be $1 million.

2006 base salary $2 million + $3.5 million roster bonus.

2007 base salary $2 million + $1 million roster bonus.

2008 base salary $3 million + $1 million roster bonus.

2009 base salary $3 million + $2 million roster bonus.

 

[The Curly One]

In 2005 Larry Allen is getting old, in 2004 he was out of shape, in 2003 he was hurt, Did not know what Parcells wanted him to do (Duh! Block! )
You people have been making lame excuses for his poor play since 2000 and he has not got any better. Blame Quincy Carter or hutchinson, vinny or who ever for getting sacked by the guy who blew by Larry Allen does not make any sense to me at all.
If nothing else Larry Allen has been consistant the last 5 years. Consistantly the worst starter we have.
Nothing has changed, we offered to trade him for anything and nobody wanted him. Detroit was the only one interested and they only wanted to give a 4th round pick.
Since nobody in their right mind would give anything for him just cut him and move on. I do not care how good he was that is all history and he stinks up the place now. Curly

 

[GoCowboysGo]

Consistantly the worst starter we have.

The Curly One, do you really believe that? Pettitie was horrible. Rivera was horrible. Gurode was horrible. Tucker was horrible.

Reality, he was better than all those players in 2005, thats how bad the offensive line was.

Cut him!