SI Has Tony As The #10 Rated QB.. I don't agree

[big dog cowboy]

The guy is currently one of the most-overrated QBs, if not the most, in the game right now. That said, he does have talent..

Luck might be the most overrated player in the NFL today.

 

[KJJ]

Luck might be the most overrated player in the NFL today.

Doubt there's a QB in the league that has to carry their team like Luck which has attributed to some of the terrible games he's had. He tied for the lead in passing yards last season and tossed 40 TD's and had a passer rating of 96.5 so I don't see where that adds up to being the most overrated player in the NFL. The Colts were a 2 win team when he arrived and in one season he turned them into an 11-5 playoff team. In his first 3 seasons he's already won more playoff games than Romo who wouldn't stay in one piece playing with the Colts. Luck is subjected to some vicious hits and hangs in. In 2013 he railed the Colts from a 38-10 deficit in the playoffs tossing 4 TD's to beat KC 45-44.

Not since John Elway during the 80's with Denver have I seen a QB have to put a team on their back and carry them the way Luck does with the Colts. When he plays poorly the Colts get crushed we saw that vs the Cowboys and in the playoffs vs NE. Granted he's had some awful games and makes some poor decisions at times but it's all on him and the Colts wouldn't be competitive without him. Odds were posted on winning SB 50 and the Colts are 8-1 all because of Andrew Luck.

 

[pgreptom]

Anyone who says Luck is overrated simply hasn't seen the guy play. He is the definition of a quarterback carrying his team. Easily a top 5 QB in this league.

 

[pupulehaole]

People need to stop giving a damn where other people rank Romo. You know where he ranks in your head that's all that matters.

 

[ghst187]

Doubt there's a QB in the league that has to carry their team like Luck which has attributed to some of the terrible games he's had. He tied for the lead in passing yards last season and tossed 40 TD's and had a passer rating of 96.5 so I don't see where that adds up to being the most overrated player in the NFL. The Colts were a 2 win team when he arrived and in one season he turned them into an 11-5 playoff team. In his first 3 seasons he's already won more playoff games than Romo who wouldn't stay in one piece playing with the Colts. Luck is subjected to some vicious hits and hangs in. In 2013 he railed the Colts from a 38-10 deficit in the playoffs tossing 4 TD's to beat KC 45-44.

Not since John Elway during the 80's with Denver have I seen a QB have to put a team on their back and carry them the way Luck does with the Colts. When he plays poorly the Colts get crushed we saw that vs the Cowboys and in the playoffs vs NE. Granted he's had some awful games and makes some poor decisions at times but it's all on him and the Colts wouldn't be competitive without him. Odds were posted on winning SB 50 and the Colts are 8-1 all because of Andrew Luck.

actually, he reminds me a bit of Romo the first few years Tony took over as a starter. He'd make some unbelievable plays with an occasional bonehead mistake.
Keep in mind the Colts had SIX (6) games against the worst (no exaggeration) teams in the league this year (Houston, Jax, and Tenn). Then, they had other wins against largely terrible teams....Cleveland, Wash, NYG. That's NINE (9) games against the top drafters! (That's how '80s and 90's San Fran used to roll into the playoffs with home field but I digress) Indy's only quality wins were over Cincy and Baltimore, and Denver in the playoffs (although Manning was done by then). They lost to Philly, us, Denver, NE, and Pitt, most by a LARGE margin. Their losses were by AN AVERAGE of over 20 points. Frankly, he looked pretty bad in some of those games too. (YES WE WATCHED HIM PLAY!) I'll admit his WRs let him down against us but he tossed some ducks too. So you could very well make the argument that he's also benefitted from playing a bunch of rotten teams.
I don't think anyone here is saying he isn't a really good QB with loads of talent and POTENTIAL. However, I don't think he's in the class of Brady, Rodgers, Roth, and co. RIGHT NOW.
And you can't say he doesn't have ANY talent to play with, he has some WR weapons. He doesn't have a great OL and RB or D right now but they aren't the worst ever either.
If you want to rank the young, the up and coming, guys you'd like to build a team around for the next ten years, etc, ok then talk about Luck heading that class sure. Ranking him in the same tier, even ahead, as guys like Roth, Manning, Brady is a bit laughable at this point though. Give Luck 2-3 more consistently elite years before we crown him...
As another gauge, I'm terrified to play NE because solely of Brady and GB solely because of Rodgers, New Orleans solely because of Brees, but I don't have that fear of Indy right now. I may in another year or two, but not right now.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I would put him 5th right now:

1. Rodgers
2. Brady
3. Wilson
4. Peyton
5. Romo

I don't think Russell Wilson would fit into a lot of schemes, but in the one he is in, he's really fantastic. It's not always pretty, but it works well. And I would take Romo last year over a hobbled Peyton.

I think Luck is good, but at this point I don't think he's in my top-7. He shows flashes, but has never stringed something together really special.



YR

 

[KJJ]

actually, he reminds me a bit of Romo the first few years Tony took over as a starter. He'd make some unbelievable plays with an occasional bonehead mistake.
Keep in mind the Colts had SIX (6) games against the worst (no exaggeration) teams in the league this year (Houston, Jax, and Tenn). Then, they had other wins against largely terrible teams....Cleveland, Wash, NYG. That's NINE (9) games against the top drafters! (That's how '80s and 90's San Fran used to roll into the playoffs with home field but I digress) Indy's only quality wins were over Cincy and Baltimore, and Denver in the playoffs (although Manning was done by then). They lost to Philly, us, Denver, NE, and Pitt, most by a LARGE margin. Their losses were by AN AVERAGE of over 20 points. Frankly, he looked pretty bad in some of those games too. (YES WE WATCHED HIM PLAY!) I'll admit his WRs let him down against us but he tossed some ducks too. So you could very well make the argument that he's also benefitted from playing a bunch of rotten teams.
I don't think anyone here is saying he isn't a really good QB with loads of talent and POTENTIAL. However, I don't think he's in the class of Brady, Rodgers, Roth, and co. RIGHT NOW.
And you can't say he doesn't have ANY talent to play with, he has some WR weapons. He doesn't have a great OL and RB or D right now but they aren't the worst ever either.
If you want to rank the young, the up and coming, guys you'd like to build a team around for the next ten years, etc, ok then talk about Luck heading that class sure. Ranking him in the same tier, even ahead, as guys like Roth, Manning, Brady is a bit laughable at this point though. Give Luck 2-3 more consistently elite years before we crown him...
As another gauge, I'm terrified to play NE because solely of Brady and GB solely because of Rodgers, New Orleans solely because of Brees, but I don't have that fear of Indy right now. I may in another year or two, but not right now.

I'm not going to get into a big debate over Andrew Luck. I think he's a very good young quarterback and the Colts wouldn't be worth a crap without him.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Anyone who says Luck is overrated simply hasn't seen the guy play. He is the definition of a quarterback carrying his team. Easily a top 5 QB in this league.

I've seen the guy play several times. He is good perhaps great. But he isn't all world. What drives my opinion is the notion he is the 2nd best player in the league behind Brady. Every time I watch ESPN or NFLN they are praising Luck endlessly like he can walk on water. I don't get it but then again I don't get that Ryan is supposed to be better than Romo according to some.

 

[pgreptom]

I've seen the guy play several times. He is good perhaps great. But he isn't all world. What drives my opinion is the notion he is the 2nd best player in the league behind Brady. Every time I watch ESPN or NFLN they are praising Luck endlessly like he can walk on water. I don't get it but then again I don't get that Ryan is supposed to be better than Romo according to some.

I would put him at QB#5, personally. Top 30 player in the NFL. The guy is amazing. He still doesn't even have a defense yet... nor an offensive line. You put Luck in Dallas and I think his numbers would be Rodgers-esque. I definitely think he wins two rings over the next decade. I do agree that he is overhyped to some degree BY SOME but he's easily a top 5 QB in this league and top 30 player in the league. I think #5 is the perfect spot for him at this point. When Manning/Romo/Brees/Rivers/Brady/Rodgers retire... he will be the undisputed #1 QB. Off topic - Crazy to think Rodgers is 31. It's hard to see how good Luck is in a league filled with 4-5 HOF QBs at the tail end of their careers.

 

[robjay04]

Anyone who says Luck is overrated simply hasn't seen the guy play. He is the definition of a quarterback carrying his team. Easily a top 5 QB in this league.

He is a great player, I don't think you can find anyone who would realistically say he will not be the best at the position in 5 years but he isn't there yet. He is ironically, kind of like Peyton in his early years. Peyton was great but sometimes inconsistent and prone to mistakes early in his career. Nobody would deny his talent but Peyton threw 100 interceptions within his first 5 seasons, it took awhile to become the "field general" we grew to respect.

 

[percyhoward]

People need to stop giving a damn where other people rank Romo. You know where he ranks in your head that's all that matters.

I do care what you think, because debating such topics here is worthwhile, but if it's some 3rd party media entity that's ranking the player, they'd better come with some facts in order to be taken seriously.

 

[ghst187]

I'm not going to get into a big debate over Andrew Luck. I think he's a very good young quarterback and the Colts wouldn't be worth a crap without him.

Agreed!

Also agree with big dog

 

[ufcrules1]

I would put him 5th right now:

1. Rodgers
2. Brady
3. Wilson
4. Peyton
5. Romo

I don't think Russell Wilson would fit into a lot of schemes, but in the one he is in, he's really fantastic. It's not always pretty, but it works well. And I would take Romo last year over a hobbled Peyton.

I think Luck is good, but at this point I don't think he's in my top-7. He shows flashes, but has never stringed something together really special.



YR

Luck is easily a better QB than Romo and you have him missing on your list. Luck is also better than Wilson and arguably better than an old Peyton (That was tough for me to even say). If Romo was the starting QB in Indy, I doubt they would even make the playoffs. Here is an accurate top 6. As far as those outside of the top 6... Big Ben, Rivers, and Romo can fight over the 7th, 8th, and 9th, spots. Romo is a top 10 QB but not top 6.

1. Rodgers
2. Brady
3. Luck
4. Peyton
5. Brees
6. Wilson

 

[5Stars]

Luck is easily a better QB than Romo and you have him missing on your list. Luck is also better than Wilson and arguably better than an old Peyton (That was tough for me to even say). If Romo was the starting QB in Indy, I doubt they would even make the playoffs. Here is an accurate top 6. As far as those outside of the top 5. Big Ben, Rivers, and Romo can fight over the 7th, 8th, and 9th, spots. Romo is a top 10 QB but not top 5.

1. Rodgers
2. Brady
3. Luck
4. Peyton
5. Brees
6. Wilson

Yeah, Wilson is better than Romo. Get lost!

 

[5Stars]

Luck might be the most overrated player in the NFL today.

One thing Luck has going for him is that he plays for a team that has a lucky horseshoe on the helmet. lol The media loves that.

He will/might become a very good QB, and he is, but he is not on Romo's level...yet.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

I'm not sure if he is sane or insane!

You might not be sure, but Im sure of which one . . . . .

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

One thing Luck has going for him is that he plays for a team that has a lucky horseshoe on the helmet. lol The media loves that.

He will/might become a very good QB, and he is, but he is not on Romo's level...yet.

Right he's above Romo's level, at least if you go along with what the mediots say. And then that junk gets parroted by fans that pat themselves on the back because they are impressed with their self perceived football acumen.

 

[DandyDon52]

Tony is # 1 on the Cowboys team, so that is all that matters right ??

 

[Alexander]

Anyone who says Luck is overrated simply hasn't seen the guy play. He is the definition of a quarterback carrying his team. Easily a top 5 QB in this league.

Absolutely. I guess people weaned on looking at a stat sheet might believe that he is overrated, but there isn't a sane GM in the NFL that would not trade their current QB for him right now, straight up. He's young, smart and a winner.

 

[Alexander]

People need to stop giving a damn where other people rank Romo. You know where he ranks in your head that's all that matters.

I agree. Every time I see one of these threads, it is easy to predict what will happen.

It is almost an echo chamber for the chronically insecure.

Do people really need to console themselves with the fact that our QB is "the best"?

Honestly, that is just sad.

Staubach and Aikman were hard to rank as "the best QB" in their day, but you know what? They were the best for this team because they won. A lot.